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Old 12-07-2017, 12:48 PM   #221
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Tbh, a lot of dudes eventually have to sit through something they hate as in chick flicks or something like Sex in the City just so they can get in their girlfriend's pants that night. I can see why that would frustrate them and make them hate certain shows and movies.
Then those duded are shitheads and should grow up from being infantile idiots.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:49 PM   #222
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Tbh, a lot of dudes eventually have to sit through something they hate as in chick flicks or something like Sex in the City just so they can get in their girlfriend's pants that night. I can see why that would frustrate them and make them hate certain shows and movies.

Not all females like Chick Flicks
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:52 PM   #223
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Not all females like Chick Flicks
...where did I say in my post that every single one of them liked chick flicks? A lot =/= all of them
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So I've watched some of April O'Neil's "videos." They were OK, the lesbian massage ones were the best ones. I skimmed through some of the others, but eh.

I've seen better.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:55 PM   #224
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Yeah, that's some nice-guy level crap right there.
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A lot just get older and older and angrier and angrier, all the while waiting for the world to bend to their whim, never, ever really being satisfied with any of the "victories" achieved at large and wondering why no one outside of whatever construct bubble they've placed themself [sic] (look, I did it!) in wants to mess with them.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:58 PM   #225
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Yeah, that's some nice-guy level crap right there.
People are capable of hating things for the craziest reasons. My point is, dont't take average ratings of tv shows and movies online at face value. I remember back in 2010 on Myanimelist a lot of trolls downrating LOGH and up rating Clannad and vice-versa. People couldnt' handle that their favourite anime was not rated number 1.

And my comment about dudes rating shows and movies cuz they were forced to watch with their gfs/wives was mostly a humours comment, anyway. But it wouldn't surprise me if that was some of the reasoning behind men downrating female targeted shows and movies.

Also what do you mean by "nice-guy"? As in someone pretending to be a good person when they're not?
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So I've watched some of April O'Neil's "videos." They were OK, the lesbian massage ones were the best ones. I skimmed through some of the others, but eh.

I've seen better.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:02 PM   #226
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Also what do you mean by "nice-guy"? As in someone pretending to be a good person when they're not?
Nice-guys are dudes who think women are vending machines that they put Nice into and get Sex out of. They also have a tendency towards the delusion that they are entitled to the time, attention, and bodies of the women of their choosing.

I'm a fan of this XKCD comic:
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A lot just get older and older and angrier and angrier, all the while waiting for the world to bend to their whim, never, ever really being satisfied with any of the "victories" achieved at large and wondering why no one outside of whatever construct bubble they've placed themself [sic] (look, I did it!) in wants to mess with them.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:06 PM   #227
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Nice-guys are dudes who think women are vending machines that they put Nice into and get Sex out of. They also have a tendency towards the delusion that they are entitled to the time, attention, and bodies of the women of their choosing.

I'm a fan of this XKCD comic:
First time I hear of this. Is this really a thing?
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:17 PM   #228
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I mean, being nice is the minimum I expect out of someone I meet. I'd say most of the people I'd go out of my way to talk/socialise with are nice and pleasant. A lot of girls I know are nice, but why would that make me automatically fall in love with them? If a girl came up to me and told me I should love her because she is a nice girl I'd be like "eh what?" and wonder what made her so entitled and desperate.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:18 PM   #229
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wow. smh. sad.

and to think only 'dudes' trash movies. equally sad.

I guess we'll ignore some popular youtube females who trash things on a daily basis and make a hobby out of it. one going so far as to even being called a dc hater.

but, that would go against the narrative.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:18 PM   #230
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My point in bringing this up was to illustrate that the reason those forums were removed wasn't because people had thinner-skin than you do, but because it's likely you weren't the target.
The reason those forums were removed is -- probably -- because they received a lot of money from Sony, upset about the female Ghostbusters movie flak.
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First time I hear of this. Is this really a thing?
Reddit Bans ‘Incel’ Group for Inciting Violence Against Women

Yup.

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New Hampshire Legislator Linked to Reddit ‘RedPill’ Forum Resigns
Republican state Rep. Robert Fisher was identified as the creator of a group fighting what it calls "feminist culture." (snopes)


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wow. smh. sad.

and to think only 'dudes' trash movies. equally sad.

I guess we'll ignore some popular youtube females who trash things on a daily basis and make a hobby out of it. one going so far as to even being called a dc hater.

but, that would go against the narrative.
Only you.
This one site just happened to find a statistically significance for this one site.
You're more than welcome to provide research supporting your hypothesis.

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The reason those forums were removed is -- probably -- because they received a lot of money from Sony, upset about the female Ghostbusters movie flak.
That's one narrative, though I prefer my own:
That fanbros talk themselves out of nice things by pretending a site that isn't theirs as their own personal safe space.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:19 PM   #232
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The reason those forums were removed is -- probably -- because they received a lot of money from Sony, upset about the female Ghostbusters movie flak.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. But I also wouldn't be surprised if alot of other studios joined in and 'pressured' them to take the movies down. mostly due to negative reviews, and ALSO because of spoiler leaks.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:25 PM   #233
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. But I also wouldn't be surprised if alot of other studios joined in and 'pressured' them to take the movies down. mostly due to negative reviews, and ALSO because of spoiler leaks.
Yeah, if not Sony specifically, it was studios at large. Platforms like message boards seemingly tied officially and directly to their new movies coming out on something as "official" as IMDB where people can freely and openly discuss or bemoan them... in their eyes (and they're not even wrong) that can only do harm, not good.

But yeah, then the female Ghostbusters movie was about to come out and people attached to it like Leslie Jones were being "attacked" everywhere and things hit critical mass for Sony.
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First time I hear of this. Is this really a thing?
Wow, this is really strange that you hear about for the first time.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:54 PM   #235
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Wow, this is really strange that you hear about for the first time.
I'm not really an expert on the dating, romance and hook ups world; nor do I pay attention to who gets with who and who is interested in who. And I've never heard any guy I know irl being classified like that. So yeah, it's the first time I've heard of this. Why do you seem so surprised?
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don't worry, I've never heard of it either. this is the only place where I've heard people have a hate on for 'nice guys'.

which, judging from that image, doesn't really qualify them for the nice guy category, but the weirdo category..
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I'm not really an expert on the dating, romance and hook ups world; nor do I pay attention to who gets with who and who is interested in who. And I've never heard any guy I know irl being classified like that. So yeah, it's the first time I've heard of this. Why do you seem so surprised?
Because, you don't need to be an expert on dating to know that it is how many men treat women. Not only young men, but men in general. Sadly, it is normal for modern society.

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don't worry, I've never heard of it either. this is the only place where I've heard people have a hate on for 'nice guys'.

which, judging from that image, doesn't really qualify them for the nice guy category, but the weirdo category..
Most likely you have never noticed it, because, it is so normalized, that it's treated as no big issue and perfectly normal by a lot of men.
And no, it's not only "weirdos".
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In that case, I can't recommend Doctor Nerdlove enough:

The Problem With “Nice Guys” (dated 12-17-2012)

And lest this get too far off topic...
False entitlement is what leads to toxic behavior.

Fandom Gatekeepers honestly think that they're the arbiters of what a fan of a thing should look and act like.
They're the reason we don't have nice things.
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I know that a lot of guys mistreat women, but I just had never heard of "the nice-guy" thing, that's all.

I know that many "nerdy" dudes used to complain about girls going for "douchebags" in HS and uni, but I didn't know there was a name for that.
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I know that a lot of guys mistreat women, but I just had never heard of "the nice-guy" thing, that's all.
same here.

you'd think that if it was such a big deal, I've had heard of it mentioned more than by two people on one message board. but, it's 2017, so everything seems has to be turned into a new buzzword problem.

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...t-quality=auto

I mean, just doing research on this to see if it IS brought up elsewhere...IF you're dating someone like this, that is NOT a nice guy. i'm sorry, it just isn't. and if that's all you run into, you need a new bunch of friends cause clearly they are all jerks. or, you know, you could be the jerk if that's what you think all nice guys are like....but, I degress..

anyway, so, toxicity.. yeah..it's everywhere .
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