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Old 09-19-2018, 11:08 AM   #41
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It never had to build to some jawdropping finale. That would've been weird. It already had a finale, "City at War." Everything after, while great at best, has been downhill from that shining moment of endgame awesome.
It's funny to think about. "City at War" was the last clearly defined story arc/storyline of any kind in Mirage. As that marked the last involvement of Kevin of any kind beyond covers and after that it was strictly Peter... I think it's safe to conclude that Peter doesn't like clearly defined story arcs/storylines but rather just a free-flowing narrative that keeps continuing. I'm pretty sure if Vol. 2 hadn't have been discontinued, that story would have eventually bled seamlessly into what we know of now as Vol. 4 without any storyline conclusions or anything.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:11 AM   #42
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It's funny to think about. "City at War" was the last clearly defined story arc/storyline of any kind in Mirage. As that marked the last involvement of Kevin of any kind beyond covers and after that it was strictly Peter... I think it's safe to conclude that Peter doesn't like clearly defined story arcs/storylines but rather just a free-flowing narrative that keeps continuing. I'm pretty sure if Vol. 2 hadn't have been discontinued, that story would have eventually bled seamlessly into what we know of now as Vol. 4 without any storyline conclusions or anything.
I disagree. Lawson was more heavily involved in Volume 2's plot and direction, whereas Volume 4 he did art only and it was all Laird's brainchild.

Isn't that how it went? Or am I misremembering the credits?
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:25 AM   #43
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I disagree. Lawson was more heavily involved in Volume 2's plot and direction, whereas Volume 4 he did art only and it was all Laird's brainchild.

Isn't that how it went? Or am I misremembering the credits?
Shoot, I don't know. I do remember hearing Lawson was more heavily involved in Vol. 2's storyline than initially thought, but much, much later on Laird talked about the writing process with Lawson, how it's largely a multi-step process. 1) Laird writes up rough summaries of an issue's story and gives them to Jim, 2) Jim draws all the pages and writes initial blurbs of dialogue and captions on his own, 3) Peter goes back in and revises/fluffs up/adds to what Jim wrote. I kind of assumed their process in Vol. 4 was the same as their process in Vol. 2. That's my understanding, anyway.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:45 AM   #44
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Shoot, I don't know. I do remember hearing Lawson was more heavily involved in Vol. 2's storyline than initially thought, but much, much later on Laird talked about the writing process with Lawson, how it's largely a multi-step process. 1) Laird writes up rough summaries of an issue's story and gives them to Jim, 2) Jim draws all the pages and writes initial blurbs of dialogue and captions on his own, 3) Peter goes back in and revises/fluffs up/adds to what Jim wrote. I kind of assumed their process in Vol. 4 was the same as their process in Vol. 2. That's my understanding, anyway.
I guess that would make more sense.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:08 PM   #45
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Huh, I could have sworn I commented on this topic before...

Anyway, that's some even poll after two years.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:16 PM   #46
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Mirage, easily.

IDW is an impressive remix of all previous versions. And, it's pretty entertaining, but the pacing is frustratingly slow and it doesn't have quite as much of a "bite" as Mirage (not just in action/violence, as I don't care as much about that, but emotionally).


Mirage in addition to being the original source material (TMNT doesn't get much more pure than that). And, it has all the grit and all the emotional punch (both the somber "Life at best is bitterweet" moments,and the heartwarming "Life is good and life goes on" moments) that I feel are what really make Mirage the "mature" version.

Now continuity is a bit of a mess, and there's unfinished stories all over the place, and the "guest era" is hit (Souls Winter) or miss (Spaced Out), but I still say Mirage gets the nod, by a fairly wide margin.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:02 PM   #47
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Mirage by far.
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