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Old 03-23-2019, 06:10 PM   #61
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Zack is pretty much there to be a stereotypical stand-in for any kid who wished they could hang out with the Turtles...or any superhero for that matte.
Captain Planet had a similair episode, The Littlest Planeteer with a young boy following the teenagers on their adventures.
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:28 PM   #62
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But also a lot of other modern depictions of Robin were always popular. The Batman: TAS Robin who debuted in 1992 was always well liked. I remember even as a kid liking him instantly and wishing he showed up more since he doesn't even appear in most of the episodes.

Robin in the 2003 Teen Titans cartoon was also always very popular. I also like Robin in Young Justice.

I think modern cartoons (and by that I mean from the 90's onward, Superfriends Robin was still mostly bad/lame/whatever), learned how to make Robin cool from the start. That's why you can have a 13 year old or whatever Dick Grayson in recent cartoons and people still find him cool.
Because Robin in TAS and the Robin in Teen Titans(2003) always did have a edge to him. I think nothing points that out than the 2 parter in BTAS Robin's reckoning.
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:14 PM   #63
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Honestly have no problem with April and Casey being teenagers. I mean it changes absolutely nothing. Adult/ Kid. They are still useless by the end game no matter what. But they have being human and "almost adult" going for them which is really all they both need. That's enough for them to be useful allies in the early game.

The only problem I see with them being teenagers is they have parents. And you have to be a bit clever with how you deal with parents. I don't like it when they are ignored completely.

So really in my opinion the age of April and Casey will depend on things like "themes" and how either being an adult or a teenager would help tell that theme or story better.
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:27 PM   #64
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Honestly have no problem with April and Casey being teenagers. I mean it changes absolutely nothing. Adult/ Kid. They are still useless by the end game no matter what. But they have being human and "almost adult" going for them which is really all they both need. That's enough for them to be useful allies in the early game.

The only problem I see with them being teenagers is they have parents. And you have to be a bit clever with how you deal with parents. I don't like it when they are ignored completely.

So really in my opinion the age of April and Casey will depend on things like "themes" and how either being an adult or a teenager would help tell that theme or story better.
April was far from useless. She had superpowers. She was able to bring death, and than bring life. She was a God in power level when the show called for it. If she can make people vanish using her mind, and than reconstruct them later, means yes, she could defeat all 4 Turtles, Splinter, and Super Shredder had she just used her powers.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:56 PM   #65
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True she had all of those cool powers but forcefully limited in her ability to use them because she wasn't a main character. So in a way she was made to be useless so the Turtles could have something to do.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:50 PM   #66
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Looking back, with the way they "Feature" April, I think it would of been for the best for them to have made April a adult.

I mean who watch say the Manhattan Project and not find it kinda of awkward consider April's age with that creepy warm rubbing April's butt in a close up shot? Had April been 18-20ish, the scene would not of been so well awkward. But they did make there own been with scenes like this in regards to April.

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Old 10-10-2019, 02:23 PM   #67
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Well, the ratio of the mutation isn't fity-fifty, it's more 20% of the original DNA and the 80% of the invading species.
I know we're talking pseudo science, but this is some janky science right here.
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Old 10-23-2019, 12:42 AM   #68
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I think there are pros and cons to having April and Casey as peers or as adults to the Turtles. I've seen stuff I've liked about both takes. IMHO, I don't think everything about the rejigging in the 2012 show landed, but I think it worked for that version.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:20 AM   #69
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I think it was a good experiment... however I question the reasons behind it. As in, it seems like it was just done so Donatello can have sexual tension with a human.
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Old 10-23-2019, 02:11 AM   #70
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I think it was a good experiment... however I question the reasons behind it. As in, it seems like it was just done so Donatello can have sexual tension with a human.
I just thought they wanted to have the friends be the same age as the turtles this time, given they seemed a little more teen like themselves here (more in the start anyway) I guess the thought could have been there too, that or additionally they just thought 'ah, seen as....' I mean teen boys can be attracted to young women but obviously no pursuing.
Maybe they thought kids would prefer older kids to adults? (seen as they have done it again) I dunno. I guess it never came up in any show Q&A's?
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Old 10-23-2019, 02:29 AM   #71
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I just thought they wanted to have the friends be the same age as the turtles this time, given they seemed a little more teen like themselves here (more in the start anyway)
That's what I was hoping, too... except that went out the window a bit with the anime stuff with Don's heart beating out of his chest and such, pining over her.
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I just thought they wanted to have the friends be the same age as the turtles this time, given they seemed a little more teen like themselves here (more in the start anyway).
Thats the impression I got too, that since the turtles are already teenagers in this version, that April and Casey should be too.

Its never been odd for turtles to interact with an adult April in the past, but thats because no turtle incarnation before the Nick toon really had them acting like typical American human teenagers.
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The biggest villains were the censors.
What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 10-23-2019, 03:59 AM   #73
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Thats the impression I got too, that since the turtles are already teenagers in this version, that April and Casey should be too.

Its never been odd for turtles to interact with an adult April in the past, but thats because no turtle incarnation before the Nick toon really had them acting like typical American human teenagers.
Yeah when watching the movies or 2k3 I didn't sit and find myself thinking that these guys were too old to be friends with the TMNT, either works for me but as there are many versions I could appreciate this exploring this angle. As others have said though, the issues some had came more from the actual characters rather than the fact that they were teens.

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Old 10-23-2019, 04:08 AM   #74
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Also, when you think about it, Nick Splinter definetly seems younger than his other incarnations too when it comes to his stature and mannerisms.

So it wasn't only April, Casey and Karai who were made younger in response to the turtles acting like human teenagers, but Splinter too.
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The biggest villains were the censors.
What they could do without being held back is my question.
Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building.
I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.
Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 10-23-2019, 04:34 AM   #75
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Also, when you think about it, Nick Splinter definetly seems younger than his other incarnations too when it comes to his stature and mannerisms.

So it wasn't only April, Casey and Karai who were made younger in response to the turtles acting like human teenagers, but Splinter too.
I don't know if that's why they did that with the teen friends, I liked this angle with Splinter too but then it went with the story of him being raised with Saki and his daughter only being 16.

Edit: So far as the teen aspect, though the turtles were more teen-like here (especially when starting out) they still have different lives to a regular teen obviously given what they do (as well as being different). To be fair Casey and April's lives were not that of regular teens as the show progressed and I can't imagine Karai got to be a regular child much past being toddler.

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Old 10-23-2019, 10:52 AM   #76
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thats because no turtle incarnation before the Nick toon really had them acting like typical American human teenagers.
It's far more strange that they would act like typical American human teenagers than were they not to.
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It's far more strange that they would act like typical American human teenagers than were they not to.
Yeah, really. I'll never understand how that one just zips right past most people.
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:53 AM   #78
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Yeah, really. I'll never understand how that one just zips right past most people.
It's been a consistent point of whining from the fans over the years. "Why, WHY do the Turtles never act like normal human teenagers?" And then complain about TMNT writers not doing that.

Answer: because they wouldn't, because they're pretty f***ing far from that. Even if you remove them being trained from the time of their mutation to one day kill a man from the equation (you know, from the source material), you still end up with 4 brothers being raised in complete isolation from society in a sewer being taught not much more than martial arts for 15 years or so.
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Old 10-23-2019, 12:10 PM   #79
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I think most fans are secretly more interested in seeing themselves in the characters than they are with any kind of narrative consistency.

Consider how many people declare their favorite Turtle as "the one who's just like me!" and it becomes pretty clear. They'd rather see them behave how they WANT them to act, moreso than how they actually would.

Lots of projection and such going on. Kinda silly.

Also, "But they watch TV!" is the standard catch-all defense when trying to explain why they'd act like human beings despite being Not That.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:24 PM   #80
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It's been a consistent point of whining from the fans over the years. "Why, WHY do the Turtles never act like normal human teenagers?" And then complain about TMNT writers not doing that.
While I am not saying that they should act like human teenagers, the word Teenage in the title does end up creating expectations in people, especially when their first exposure to turtles involves pizza and cowabunga.
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