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View Poll Results: Are you glad Viacom/Nick bought TMNT?
I'm glad they did 40 52.63%
I'm glad NOW they did, but I wasn't beforehand 8 10.53%
No, not glad 12 15.79%
I was glad at first, now I'm not glad 13 17.11%
It is INFURIATING! 3 3.95%
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:39 PM   #21
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Nick TMNT is the best version hands down. So of course yeah.
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:04 PM   #22
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I don't know yet if I'm ultimately more happy or upset with the sale to Viacom. I think I wonder more about what could have happened if they had never made the Fred Wolf cartoon. What else could've been?

I like to think if somebody had presented me with the original comics and said "make a cartoon out of this" I could have made something better than what we got. Like, the tonal shift was so jarring, wtf?
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:30 PM   #23
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I've liked everything other than the Platinum Dunes movies, so I'm a pretty happy camper overall.

I only wish it had happened a year or two later than it did, for a number of reasons.

1. The film they were going to make, with John Fusco, using techniques inspired by Where The Wild Things are, would've been sooo much better than what they replaced it with.

2. We didn't get the big Mirage source guide book that was in development as a result of the sale.

3. A Mirage writer had approached me a little after the buyout to work on something but Pete had already decided to wrap Tales up at that time. Dunno that it would've happened, but hey.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:00 PM   #24
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the PD movies weren't the greatest.

But I am thankful that the Turtles got another shot at the big screen.

Seeing Bebop and Rocksteady just made it worth it.

And also the threezero stuff from the movies were pretty cool.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:14 PM   #25
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But I am thankful that the Turtles got another shot at the big screen.
That was already going to happen before the sale.
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:03 AM   #26
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I appreciate that it opened TMNT up to a whole new generation of fans and helped cement its place in pop culture. I've had a hard time being interested in the post-sale stuff, but, I suppose I'm glad it happened.
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:21 AM   #27
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I appreciate that it opened TMNT up to a whole new generation of fans
But... again, that already would have happened, eventually.
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Old 02-01-2018, 06:10 AM   #28
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where is the eastman rainbow version?
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Old 02-01-2018, 06:23 AM   #29
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That would have happened anyway, and actually more cost-efficiently. Dark Horse and Mike Richardson was already angling around Peter at the time of the sale, looking to put out omnibuses of... everything, and split the profits with Mirage 50/50. Probably would have gone through if there was no sale to Viacom/Nick.
Huh, that actually sounds like it would have been pretty cool.
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:26 AM   #30
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Should definitely be bumped with the new reveal.
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:58 PM   #31
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There was no option for indifference so I picked the second option. It's neither been good or bad. Can't say I've really liked the stuff Nick has done with TMNT through films or animation but they gave the franchise a shot in the arm and some financial safety.

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All Laird really did before was to prevent the Fred Wolf cartoon from being more influential, which isn't really a bad thing, it at least made Fred Wolf nostalgia a less useful tool than what Viacom thought it would be. Had a movie like OotS been made around 2000-2007, when the target audience would been about 18-25, it might have been successful. Instead it was made when they were in their mid-30s, too late for most of them to still care, and anyone who grew up on anything but the Fred Wolf cartoon won't give a **** about Bebop and Rocksteady at all. So Viacom will probably learn that the franchise needs quality rather than rely on what they believe to be recognisable elements.
I still don't think you really understand why FW fans didn't go and see the movie. It had absolutely nothing to do with age or interest in the 80s cartoon series.
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:08 PM   #32
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I struggled accepting initially but the more I paid attention to it the more I liked it. It was hard for me to move on from the fw and 2k3, but the 2012 series really did a good job at pleasing the new generation and the old as well.
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:03 AM   #33
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Don't really like the 2012 series much and the new one looks awful
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:07 AM   #34
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Had a movie like OotS been made around 2000-2007, when the target audience would been about 18-25, it might have been successful]
Also remember the Internet access was limited to many people, many Internet users didn't even have broadband. You couldn't just search for an episode, and watch. Downloading episodes took time and there was no Youtube. The 4 Kids series didn't start until February 2003 (DVD releases started in early-September that year), and DVD releases of the original series didn't begin until April 2004.

TMNT was just a memory to many of them. If you had saved some videotapes, you were happy. Otherwise, you had to wait for a TV station to air any of the original three films, if you had that channel...

So it would probably have been more successful around 2002 than 2007.

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Old 02-02-2018, 07:22 AM   #35
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I'm glad. New shows, new movies, new comics, new merch: NEW TOYS. Not all of those things are stellar (the 2014 and 2016 films are rather lame, IMO), but enough of them are (I really dig many/most of the toys; even the figures from the 2016 film are pretty neat), and we might not have gotten those things without Nickelodeon's weight behind the TMNT. So... yeah.

Bring on the Rise of the TMNT figures.
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:28 AM   #36
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Nick has now created the best and worst of TMNT. It's 50/50.
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Old 02-02-2018, 08:00 AM   #37
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Nickelodeon didn't produce the films, Platinum Dunes did. Nickelodeon just approved them (which is why we saw the Nickelodeon logotype).
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Old 02-02-2018, 10:29 AM   #38
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i think they saved TMNT from becoming an obscure IP that may have been lost in time.
THIS. This is biggest reason I'm ok with it, I mean how many IPs out there are being dug up right now by big companies only to be regulated to obscurity again. Even if it's mostly drudging through what most people perceive as mostly crap.....being a forgotten IP is probably worse IMO. More fans = more people discovering or rediscovering the old great original material and more appetite for better content.
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Old 02-02-2018, 12:13 PM   #39
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Ip

What does IP mean?
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Old 02-02-2018, 12:34 PM   #40
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Intellectual property. It's just a complicated way of saying "series".
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