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View Poll Results: How do you prefer Shredder's brother? | |||
Oroku Nagi (Tang Shen involvment) | 8 | 44.44% | |
Kazuo Saki (Tokyo policeman) | 5 | 27.78% | |
Hamato Yoshi as Oroku Saki's adoptive brother | 3 | 16.67% | |
having at least two brothers in the same universe | 2 | 11.11% | |
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04-22-2017, 09:55 AM | #1 |
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How do you prefer Shredder's brother?
Again, how do you prefer Shredder's brother?
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04-22-2017, 09:56 AM | #2 |
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Oroku Nagi. He was part of such a stunning origin story, and I like the idea that Shredder is out for revenge too.
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04-22-2017, 10:42 AM | #3 |
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Nagi of course
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04-22-2017, 11:25 AM | #4 |
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Oddly enough, I like Kazuo because it makes for such an interesting contrast. Nagi- as much as I can tell- is just more of the same as with Saki. In that origin, he was the jealous rival that raped and killed Tang Shen, thus precipitating Yoshi's retaliation- which was well-deserved. I have to wonder what Saki's rationalization for his own BROTHER'S behavior was that necessitated taking revenge on Yoshi for seeking justice when Nagi was CLEARLY in the wrong. Japanese culture is all about family honor, and Nagi would have certainly dishonored his own family by his actions, so Yoshi's revenge was justified and even the Oroku family should have been okay with that. So Saki wanting to avenge him- when he himself was so much younger and knew so little of the circumstances when it happened but woyld have been told and understood it later when he got older- was both pointless and would have been seen as further dishonor to his family. Yoshi's killing of Nagi would be considered an honor-killing. Saki killing Yoshi was not. (Especially since his brother being a rapist and murderer was already a stain on the family!)
Kazuo on the other hand makes an interesting foil for the evil of Saki. In that version Saki (and apparently his mother) is a bad seed in the family, and it makes the Oroku family moke interesting. I also like the IDW veesion, and Nick as well to an extent, for having the Oroku and Hamato families tied directing through being adopted brothers or part of the same clan growing up together. That makes sense for a ninja clan. I have a head-canon where the three origins combine a la 2k3 where Saki not only framed Yoshi like in OT but also killed Shen out of jealousy and also turned on the Foot clan leader and took over, ousting Yoshi in the process. Kazuo became a cop to bring his criminal brother to justice and restore his family's honor.
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04-22-2017, 02:26 PM | #5 |
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Ummm... been a while since you've read #1?
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04-22-2017, 02:38 PM | #6 |
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... I guess the rape is implied but it's never flat out said, I'm pretty sure it just says he beat her up, so even that is kind of wrong.
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04-22-2017, 10:32 PM | #7 |
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Actually never read the first issue- just going by what others have stated about the origin. But given his apparent obsession according to canon, I'd say that even if only implied it makes little difference. As neatoman said beating her to death is still a dispicable act in itself- and dishonorable to attack and kill a helpless woman who is already spoken for, regardless. So- yeah.....
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04-22-2017, 10:52 PM | #8 |
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........dead.
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04-22-2017, 11:13 PM | #9 | |
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The Oroku family (and Shen's iirc) blamed Yoshi for what happened since the pair fled Japan after Yoshi had slain Nagi leaving little to no explanation, and killing another member of the Foot seems to be punishable by Seppukku which Yoshi avoids by fleeing to America. |
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04-23-2017, 10:43 AM | #10 | |
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04-27-2017, 12:58 PM | #11 |
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Kazuo because the contrast between how both brothers lived their lives is very well done. It goes to show the life Oroku could have had if his live had turned into the same path his brother had (no Shredder). The fact that his brother coming from the Saki bloodline didn't follow the family route to crime is interesting to me even if it makes him an outcast to his family.
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04-27-2017, 01:09 PM | #12 |
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Both Peter and Kevin have separately said that there was no rape. None.
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