The New Café - Page 197

*Katie* · 08-08-2011, 09:18 PM

I realized my mortality when I was 6. I cried and cried and asked my mom if I was going to die, and she, not wanting to lie about such a profound thing little Katie had realized, told me that yes indeed, someday I would die.

I kind of go along, grow up, have my life. Always in the back of my mind is the looming unknown of death....cause that's really what that fear is....the unknown.

I try being ultra religious to figure out that unknown. I want to believe I know what that moment will be like. I go to high school and become that macabre goth girl...because if I embrace it I somehow "know" it and I control it and it's not scary. I grow out of that and once again stuff the fear of the unknown and loss of control (cause for me it is that too). Until once again it forces me to look it in the face when my then boyfriend....fiance....is killed in an accident. Desparate need for answers....knowing...control....but there's none.

I leave organized religion...that was no help. I contemplate suicide....because then I control it but its still an unknown and a scary one.

But time passes....happiness returns.....love comes again and stronger. The scary out of control unknown thing is stuffed for now.

I dunno how long my time is or what if anything comes after.....but for now life is good. My journey has told me that no one knows when there time is up. Don't try and control it....or understand it. Just enjoy the ride. You only get one time around.

*XERO* · 08-08-2011, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie

I dunno how long my time is or what if anything comes after.....but for now life is good. My journey has told me that no one knows when there time is up. Don't try and control it....or understand it. Just enjoy the ride. You only get one time around.

Bingo. Just how I feel.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 08-08-2011, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie

I dunno how long my time is or what if anything comes after.....but for now life is good. My journey has told me that no one knows when there time is up. Don't try and control it....or understand it. Just enjoy the ride. You only get one time around.

exactly QFT! that sums it up.

with recent tragedies in my family over the last 4 years, yeah sometimes things go on in my head, but not so much about my own mortality, but rather what ifs and wishing i'd have spent more time with the lovedones i lost, like my Cousing and Uncle. course my Aunt (wife to Uncle and Mom to Cousin who both passed) getting diagnosed with cancer herself, i again don't think about my own mortality, just more what Katie summed up in the above paragraph

*XERO* · 08-18-2011, 02:46 PM

Just got back from getting my tooth pulled from the dentist.

F*CK, that hurt.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 08-23-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by XERO

Just got back from getting my tooth pulled from the dentist.

F*CK, that hurt.

ouch! damn dude! wisdome tooth?

*XERO* · 08-23-2011, 09:51 PM

More like DUMBASS tooth.

But besides that, there is some good news.

I'm finally back in college.

**Jester** · 08-23-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by XERO

I'm finally back in college.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 08-24-2011, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XERO

More like DUMBASS tooth.

But besides that, there is some good news.

I'm finally back in college.

hey congrats dude

*BubblyShell22* · 08-24-2011, 02:07 PM

Congrats, Ben. That's awesome.

Congrats to SW and KROW, too. Best wishes to both of you.

As for mortality, I say live life to the fullest extent you can and believe in something. Set goals for yourself and try to achieve them. That's all you can do. Believe in yourself and see what you can achieve. I'm not worried about when I die, it's how I'll die that scares me because we don't know how it'll happen.

Peanut · 09-05-2011, 11:17 PM

Still keep having the moments where it really gets to me. Honestly, I just find it angering and annoying now, not the fact of it, but that I keep ruining things I'm enjoying by thinking about it.

*Katie* · 09-06-2011, 07:38 AM

I have moments where it will creep into my thoughts. Usually it's when I'm laying in bed and can't sleep. I really have to ask myself why death bothers me. I can't control death itself....but I can own what bothers me about it.

For me its a couple of things:

1) the massive unknowns. How does it feel. What happens. Is there anything more. With these things I kind of will find myself wanting to watch those "ghost story" type documentaries. Or I go to church. Whatever eases my mind cause I want there to to be more to this existence.

2) the "don't forget me" factor. The older I have gotten, for me, I realize that immortality or the afterlife, if you will, comes from the impact you had in lif and who remembers you. I never feel like I have done enough....or have been enough to anyone to achieve this rememberance. So....my life really didn't mean anything if I was to die today. This is my motivation to become someone loved....someone who makes a difference...even if it was just one person.

That last one. I never thought much about until my last fiance died. At his funeral, a man I never had seen before came up to me and told me what a good person he was. I smiled and nodded. Apparently Trent had taken this elderly man to the grocery store every week or when needed. I never knew. It meant the world to that man. He'll never be forgotten.

*BubblyShell22* · 09-06-2011, 08:17 AM

I can understand how you guys think about things like this, and I agree. However, I don't really think too much about it. I just live life to the fullest. As for what comes after death, I just think I'll be reincarnated in some other form. What that form is, I don't know. I just like to think that even if heaven doesn't exist, there has to be some sort of afterlife out there.

The best thing I can advise, Peanut, is to just live for today and think about what you do. Don't let the bad stuff get to you. We all make mistakes in life but as long as we learn from them, that's the key.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 09-06-2011, 09:03 PM

i agree with Bubbly on this one

*BubblyShell22* · 09-07-2011, 07:49 AM

Thanks, Canadian. That means a lot.

Peanut · 09-12-2011, 03:39 PM

I've finally come to the conclusion, thanks to my constant nagging thoughts that have started to actually make me a bit of a basket case for the past month, that my problem with death is the fact that I want to see what happens in the future. I'm so curious about everything that I feel like I'm going to be cheated out of some real treats thanks to the bullsh*t that is human mortality.

On top of that, I've found that I can't truly believe in the supernatural. Would that I could, but in the desperation to find some hope about the possibility of maintaining some kind of consciousness post death, I find myself digging rather deeper into my true beliefs that I have before. Unfortunately, what I've come up with is something along the lines of "when you die your brain stops working = not thoughts = death".

My only hope now is that science gets advanced enough to give me the ability to one day transfer my consciousness to a robotic body.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 09-12-2011, 05:14 PM

hey man, i totally agree with u there. i'd be lying if i said i've never thought about that either

*Katie* · 09-12-2011, 05:30 PM

Well the good thing is that you know what it is that is bothering you about death so at least you can have some focus on how to proceed.

There is a project going on.....and damn if I can't remember the name of it.....that's working on creating a way to, well for lack of a better term, download human consciousness to a computer. I forget the number of years it was until they figured that this project could create immortal consciousness...but it was within what I figured my lifetime was. Damn. Now it's gonna bother me until I remember it. I'll come back and post if I remember it.

So anyway, maybe that is you solution and you won't miss out after all.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 09-12-2011, 05:43 PM

i'd rather just become immortal some how, wouldn't want to become robotic

*Katie* · 09-12-2011, 07:01 PM

You probably wouldn't have to be robotic. If they can transfer your consciousness to a computer.....why couldn't they transfer it back to a body? We can clone things now....why couldn't you have a nice clone of yourself ready to take over when your current body wears out.

It was like 50 years or so. Damn I wish I could remember that scientist's name. He was British I think

Peanut · 09-12-2011, 07:20 PM

Man, whatEVER! Robot or not I would totally transfer my consciousness into a machine at the end of my life.

08-08-2011, 09:18 PM	#3921
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	I realized my mortality when I was 6. I cried and cried and asked my mom if I was going to die, and she, not wanting to lie about such a profound thing little Katie had realized, told me that yes indeed, someday I would die. I kind of go along, grow up, have my life. Always in the back of my mind is the looming unknown of death....cause that's really what that fear is....the unknown. I try being ultra religious to figure out that unknown. I want to believe I know what that moment will be like. I go to high school and become that macabre goth girl...because if I embrace it I somehow "know" it and I control it and it's not scary. I grow out of that and once again stuff the fear of the unknown and loss of control (cause for me it is that too). Until once again it forces me to look it in the face when my then boyfriend....fiance....is killed in an accident. Desparate need for answers....knowing...control....but there's none. I leave organized religion...that was no help. I contemplate suicide....because then I control it but its still an unknown and a scary one. But time passes....happiness returns.....love comes again and stronger. The scary out of control unknown thing is stuffed for now. I dunno how long my time is or what if anything comes after.....but for now life is good. My journey has told me that no one knows when there time is up. Don't try and control it....or understand it. Just enjoy the ride. You only get one time around. __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

08-18-2011, 02:46 PM	#3924
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,062	Just got back from getting my tooth pulled from the dentist. FCK, that hurt. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"*

08-23-2011, 09:51 PM	#3926
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,062	More like DUMBASS tooth. But besides that, there is some good news. I'm finally back in college. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

08-24-2011, 02:07 PM	#3929
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Congrats, Ben. That's awesome. Congrats to SW and KROW, too. Best wishes to both of you. As for mortality, I say live life to the fullest extent you can and believe in something. Set goals for yourself and try to achieve them. That's all you can do. Believe in yourself and see what you can achieve. I'm not worried about when I die, it's how I'll die that scares me because we don't know how it'll happen. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

09-06-2011, 07:38 AM	#3931
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	I have moments where it will creep into my thoughts. Usually it's when I'm laying in bed and can't sleep. I really have to ask myself why death bothers me. I can't control death itself....but I can own what bothers me about it. For me its a couple of things: 1) the massive unknowns. How does it feel. What happens. Is there anything more. With these things I kind of will find myself wanting to watch those "ghost story" type documentaries. Or I go to church. Whatever eases my mind cause I want there to to be more to this existence. 2) the "don't forget me" factor. The older I have gotten, for me, I realize that immortality or the afterlife, if you will, comes from the impact you had in lif and who remembers you. I never feel like I have done enough....or have been enough to anyone to achieve this rememberance. So....my life really didn't mean anything if I was to die today. This is my motivation to become someone loved....someone who makes a difference...even if it was just one person. That last one. I never thought much about until my last fiance died. At his funeral, a man I never had seen before came up to me and told me what a good person he was. I smiled and nodded. Apparently Trent had taken this elderly man to the grocery store every week or when needed. I never knew. It meant the world to that man. He'll never be forgotten. __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

09-05-2011, 11:17 PM	#3930
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Still keep having the moments where it really gets to me. Honestly, I just find it angering and annoying now, not the fact of it, but that I keep ruining things I'm enjoying by thinking about it.

09-06-2011, 08:17 AM	#3932
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I can understand how you guys think about things like this, and I agree. However, I don't really think too much about it. I just live life to the fullest. As for what comes after death, I just think I'll be reincarnated in some other form. What that form is, I don't know. I just like to think that even if heaven doesn't exist, there has to be some sort of afterlife out there. The best thing I can advise, Peanut, is to just live for today and think about what you do. Don't let the bad stuff get to you. We all make mistakes in life but as long as we learn from them, that's the key. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

09-06-2011, 09:03 PM	#3933
TheCanadiandrome Big, Bad & Bold Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Inside the Technodrome; Shredderville; Saskatchewan Posts: 19,618	i agree with Bubbly on this one __________________ Add me: PSN/XBL; Nintendo Network ID: BDS-3.1.6; Switch FC: SW-3378-5206-8020 TMNT Fan Club: http://sot.ag/4jZR0 Visit My Wish List: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30904 My Collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40276

09-07-2011, 07:49 AM	#3934
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Thanks, Canadian. That means a lot. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

09-12-2011, 03:39 PM	#3935
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I've finally come to the conclusion, thanks to my constant nagging thoughts that have started to actually make me a bit of a basket case for the past month, that my problem with death is the fact that I want to see what happens in the future. I'm so curious about everything that I feel like I'm going to be cheated out of some real treats thanks to the bullsh*t that is human mortality. On top of that, I've found that I can't truly believe in the supernatural. Would that I could, but in the desperation to find some hope about the possibility of maintaining some kind of consciousness post death, I find myself digging rather deeper into my true beliefs that I have before. Unfortunately, what I've come up with is something along the lines of "when you die your brain stops working = not thoughts = death". My only hope now is that science gets advanced enough to give me the ability to one day transfer my consciousness to a robotic body.

09-12-2011, 05:14 PM	#3936
TheCanadiandrome Big, Bad & Bold Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Inside the Technodrome; Shredderville; Saskatchewan Posts: 19,618	hey man, i totally agree with u there. i'd be lying if i said i've never thought about that either __________________ Add me: PSN/XBL; Nintendo Network ID: BDS-3.1.6; Switch FC: SW-3378-5206-8020 TMNT Fan Club: http://sot.ag/4jZR0 Visit My Wish List: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30904 My Collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40276

09-12-2011, 05:30 PM	#3937
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	Well the good thing is that you know what it is that is bothering you about death so at least you can have some focus on how to proceed. There is a project going on.....and damn if I can't remember the name of it.....that's working on creating a way to, well for lack of a better term, download human consciousness to a computer. I forget the number of years it was until they figured that this project could create immortal consciousness...but it was within what I figured my lifetime was. Damn. Now it's gonna bother me until I remember it. I'll come back and post if I remember it. So anyway, maybe that is you solution and you won't miss out after all. __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

09-12-2011, 05:43 PM	#3938
TheCanadiandrome Big, Bad & Bold Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Inside the Technodrome; Shredderville; Saskatchewan Posts: 19,618	i'd rather just become immortal some how, wouldn't want to become robotic __________________ Add me: PSN/XBL; Nintendo Network ID: BDS-3.1.6; Switch FC: SW-3378-5206-8020 TMNT Fan Club: http://sot.ag/4jZR0 Visit My Wish List: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=30904 My Collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40276

09-12-2011, 07:01 PM	#3939
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	You probably wouldn't have to be robotic. If they can transfer your consciousness to a computer.....why couldn't they transfer it back to a body? We can clone things now....why couldn't you have a nice clone of yourself ready to take over when your current body wears out. It was like 50 years or so. Damn I wish I could remember that scientist's name. He was British I think __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

09-12-2011, 07:20 PM	#3940
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Man, whatEVER! Robot or not I would totally transfer my consciousness into a machine at the end of my life.