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Old 02-08-2018, 07:33 PM   #101
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If we have to reinforce the 'no politics and religion' rule that Krang initially put in place when he created the forum, then the mods and I will discuss how to move forward.
Totally should. It never works.

I think the community can police itself (to an extent) when it comes to talking turtles, generalized pop culture/life, but people are far too riled up about politics/religion/social issues not to start hurling insults & whatnot.
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:34 PM   #102
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The "good" discussions in Current Events like say the physical media thread can be moved to other sections without a problem. Let's be honest before it became a political section it was the RIP forum, we can just have a general RIP thread in another section. That would eliminate most of the "toxicity".

Andrew likes to troll and it's fine in the turtle sections but in the political ones it just doesn't work out. Outside of that section really the only ones that are constantly bringing up politics in a toxic way are Vegita San, LeonardoTheBest and Plastron Cafe in that order. Sumac and mrcaez(?) seem to only engage because of the previous ones. It's easy to be "triggered" I was too for a while but dialed it back quite a bit since but keeping politics "light" is a much better alternative.

I do think politics has become very divisive and it's spilled more and more into the media we consume for entertainment making it impossible not to make a political comment every once in a while but there's a difference between "This show is trying too hard to be PC" or "I really enjoyed all the diversity" and leaving it at that and ending up in an endless debate of pages in a topic about something else between 3/4 users which is just tiring.

Yes, we're all adults but when there are members who have such extreme opinions about certain things and it's not bad to post it in the appropriate threads, I think it's impossible to avoid right now as I mentioend but to continue to go on and on about them, it's what causes the toxic environment.

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Old 02-09-2018, 02:47 PM   #103
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Outside of that section really the only ones that are constantly bringing up politics in a toxic way are Vegita San,
Vegita-san trolls the hell out of the TV/movie section too. Anything that has to do with a women director, women actress, or anything with women in authority, he pulls the "SJW" card and goes around making degrading or derogatory comments toward women and thinks there's a "war against men" going on. And he posts about it non-stop, in the everything else section too to the point where everyone notices it.

It wouldn't be so bad if every thread was constantly derailed by it.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:03 PM   #104
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i love how i get brought up first in that list. plastron and sumac are way worse than i am. I mostly stick to the tv forum anyway. and the only reason i bring it up there , is because sjw stuff ruins so many shows and movies, that it's impossible not to avoid it. and it's only going to get worse as time goes on in hollywood.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:11 PM   #105
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I'm curious as to how people define toxic.
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Old 02-09-2018, 04:16 PM   #106
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I'm curious as to how people define toxic.
Can it be defined? Or is it more of a feeling thatís difficult to put into words? Or one of those you know it when you see it type of things? I imagine itís not easy to be a mod. Knowing when to step in and when to let things work themselves out naturally. I wonder how long it would have taken Sumac and LeoTheBest to settle the discussion in the last thread if it didnít get sent to the DU.
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Old 02-09-2018, 04:42 PM   #107
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If your first post on this site is about a topic most people think should be banned because it's too divisive, and then you bait people in other posts...I would consider that toxic.

Some things are just people not liking the current topic of conversation. but the conversation itself is rather civil. i wouldn't call that toxic...but it would be easier if those types ignored the stuff they didn't like rather than combat with it.

i'm just glad i'm not running things as a mod. unless it's rather obvious that the person is there just to troll or cause trouble..it's rather tough sometimes to find the genuine people, and the people who like to poke the bear like andrew, but otherwise might be interested in the topic.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:23 PM   #108
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Now I know you reading this are not toxic, you have the facts, the morality and clearly the correct way of thinking, so you must make it clear that the other person that they're incorrect and constantly bring it up in other threads. If you fit in this category, you're toxic.

I don't like to get political because my political views are widely different, over the past few months I accidentally got into more and more political topics until I realized I was being toxic. I started to clean my act up because no one wants all this baggage in every other thread no matter how many people I may feel I am correcting in their wrong views. As I mentioned it's impossible to keep politics out of certain discussions since many shows have indeed become very political but there's ways to be more concise and agree to disagree with it that doesn't end with endless debates.

I apologize for singling out people in the previous post since it's likely unfair and I used to enjoy posts from most of those people before things got bad. This place isn't getting any bigger or better moderated so why not make the best of it auto modding ourselves.
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:35 PM   #109
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The "His/hers/theirs" thread was getting WAY too personal. I've shut it down and moved it to the disintegrator.

The issue is not the non-tmnt sections in general, it's the hypersensitive political topics that get people escalating out of control.

If we have to reinforce the 'no politics and religion' rule that Krang initially put in place when he created the forum, then the mods and I will discuss how to move forward.
I don't fault the shutting down of the "His/Hers/Theirs" thread at all... but that's not politics.
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Old 02-11-2018, 04:44 AM   #110
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Obviously it's hard not to clash with sensitive subjects, they can be very personal to people and I don't have a perfect answer here, but maybe it's realising when it's escalating too much (becoming too personal between particular members)and not going to get resolved.
When an argument is put across in a non aggrieve manner I will be reading the points being made, where I see an attacking/insulting post, I find that can overshadow the points being made.
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:48 AM   #111
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Vegita-san's current signature is this:

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And between his constant thread de-railing, he's easily the most toxic and troll like person on the forums right now. At least everyone else has some tact.
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Old 02-11-2018, 02:03 PM   #112
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Vegita-san's current signature is this:

And between his constant thread de-railing, he's easily the most toxic and troll like person on the forums right now. At least everyone else has some tact.
Sumac's signature is equally obvious:
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:53 PM   #113
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I'm curious as to how people define toxic.
I think it depends on who you ask
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:13 AM   #114
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It's tough to figure out for sure.

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Old 02-13-2018, 07:08 AM   #115
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Sumac's signature is equally obvious:
Your first post on this forum was basically attempt to rile up as much feathers as possible, while you were pretending to be an innocent wide-eyed victim. Totally not toxic. Especially after you have buried thread about pronounce discussion.

Look after yourself and concentrate less on what people have in their signatures, little nuisance.
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Old 02-13-2018, 11:53 AM   #116
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Your first post on this forum was basically attempt to rile up as much feathers as possible, while you were pretending to be an innocent wide-eyed victim. Totally not toxic. Especially after you have buried thread about pronounce discussion.
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and using terms like cis bro to bait people in other threads. why people like this are not banned instantly is something else that needs to be brought up at the next mod meeting. it's pretty clear they are nothing but trouble.

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I think it depends on who you ask

Obviously. although in some cases, all you have to do is read and even without tone, through the souless texts of the internet, you can kind of judge a persons intentions just by how they reply to people. like telling someone to STBeepU just because you don't like what they say. that's not exactly a happy person.

OR calling someone a woman hating troll, despite posting pretty much exactly the same type of stuff what the person you just called out as being posts.... that's not so much toxic as it is a little coo coo..
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:03 PM   #117
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There was ZERO intent to rile people up. There was an attempt to see how people would react, but I didn't expect such a negative reaction.
The two of you are too much. You attacked me I fought back. You don't like being called names, then don't instigate.
Respect goes a long way.
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:40 AM   #118
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Toxic thread in 3...2...1..

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There was ZERO intent to rile people up.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59592

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Yeah, I know I know, this thread is "stirring the pot",

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Why are guys like Vegital-san and Sumac so angry? They seem to be part of a growing wave of hatred for women, and the LGBTQ community.

Guy's? Real talk. Why so much anger? I really don't think you need a dick to play ghostbuster, do you?
It don't make sense.
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it's just unbridled entitlement.
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Okay, we're going to take a little break... just because someone doesn't like the same thing you do, doesn't make them a bigot or racist or sexist or whatever phobic. People need to take a breath...
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:43 AM   #119
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:47 AM   #120
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This will be nice practice for everyone to show the mods that we can behave like adults..

So now all The Usual Suspects have to do is behave like adults.
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