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Old 02-19-2018, 02:22 AM   #1
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"Be patient. Its going to be okay. Were being respectful of the franchise.

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-Andy Suriano on Rise of the TMNT.
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:32 AM   #2
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As well as a lot of hype they got a lot of negativity too, they are just addressing it.

Not everyone is going to like the new designs and things like the leader shift but 'be patient' might mean it isn't going to be AS different as people think, wait (all the way till autumn) and see first.

Edit: re post below, yeah there's the difference between not liking something/giving an opinion and losing it/trolling etc.

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Old 02-19-2018, 03:20 AM   #3
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Haters gonna hate, thats all I gotta say.

Even if I don't find myself interested in Rise, I find no reason to create a storm/flare over it like is being done on Social Media.

Totally superflous but I couldn't care less and find it equally superflous to complain about the negativity as complaining about the show.
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The biggest villains were the censors. What they could do without being held back is my question. Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building. I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue. Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.

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Old 02-19-2018, 08:00 AM   #4
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Edit: re post below, yeah there's the difference between not liking something/giving an opinion and losing it/trolling etc.
There should be a difference. There should be nuance.
Folks should be able to say: This doesn't work for me, and then be able to articulate why it doesn't work, and/or just move on.

Rather than...well, what folks have been saying to garner a response like the one that started this thread.

Are those days gone?
Did they ever exist in the first place?

Heck, I have yet to see people actually define the word: Toxic.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:14 AM   #5
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Of course Andy had to say it. He could not say, "We do not know this franchise and do not understand it, and we did not get enough time to understand and do something right."

This is a standard phrase that they say always. And nothing more.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:52 AM   #6
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Jeeze, the feedback has to be really ugly for they to tweet it out.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:50 AM   #7
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Old 02-19-2018, 12:34 PM   #8
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Jeeze, the feedback has to be really ugly for they to tweet it out.
I'm honestly shocked at how many on social media seem to HATE these designs. Especially considering how many seemed to love the PD mess.

It must be really bad if they feel the need to address it.


But just one look at the Splinter design makes me think they arn't being respectful to the franchise and are more parodying it.

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I'm shocked your not at the fore front of all the complaining.... this entire series would be like your worst nightmare ;o).
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Who was the poster on here that got mad at Ciro for basically telling him to **** off after they sent him a message on Facebook about the things they didn't like about his show?
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:33 PM   #10
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Who was the poster on here that got mad at Ciro for basically telling him to **** off after they sent him a message on Facebook about the things they didn't like about his show?
That would be me.

After months of basically saying positive things about the show, I dared to say two things I didn't like. Basically I didn't care for Casey's Stupid FacePaint look...and that the Pulverizer was the most useless tmnt character ever invented.

I basically got F Bombed into oblivion and got told to commit suicide by his yes fans.
I'm still rather shocked at how fast that dove tailed.

It was only after that I learned that he'd already been driven mad by Cube who drove him off here. so the over reaction to an opinion made a little more sense.
Even though I shouldn't have to apologize for an opinion, I did anyway after learning all of the hate he was getting from other people, but he was having none of it...and that was it with that.

Suffice it to say, that was the last time I felt the need to interact with any of the new corporate shows creators.
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:48 PM   #11
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That would be me.

After months of basically saying positive things about the show

It was only after that I learned that he'd already been driven mad by Cube who drove him off here. .
Both of those comments surprised me
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:53 PM   #12
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Both of those comments surprised me
Lets just say I Was more open to the shows flaws .

then Season 2 happened, followed by the Farm episodes, and I all but lost hope at that point and would have given up, if there wasn't still something I liked about it.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:03 PM   #13
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That would be me.

After months of basically saying positive things about the show, I dared to say two things I didn't like. Basically I didn't care for Casey's Stupid FacePaint look...and that the Pulverizer was the most useless tmnt character ever invented.

I basically got F Bombed into oblivion and got told to commit suicide by his yes fans.
I'm still rather shocked at how fast that dove tailed.

It was only after that I learned that he'd already been driven mad by Cube who drove him off here. so the over reaction to an opinion made a little more sense.
Even though I shouldn't have to apologize for an opinion, I did anyway after learning all of the hate he was getting from other people, but he was having none of it...and that was it with that.

Suffice it to say, that was the last time I felt the need to interact with any of the new corporate shows creators.
This reminds me of a certain incident. An executive/producer (of the 2k12 TMNT show) cursed out and permanently banned a forum member on Facebook.

Good times. (*sarcasm*)

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Old 02-19-2018, 08:31 PM   #14
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Oh lord... Before I came around, I guess. Can both sides just behave maybe...? lol Is it so hard not to harass the creators and others involved? On the other hand, if they go poking around forums and whatnot and can't take the criticism, well they did choose on their own to go stepping into the fire and maybe aught to have avoided it. Kinda goes both ways.

It may be said that they don't owe fans anything, but fans also don't exactly owe show/movie/whatever creators anything either.

But fans are going to be passionate about things they love and are going to have an opinion, no stopping that.



I own that I have some strong opinions and concerns right now, and I think justified considering some of the bigger, and kinda cruddy sounding, changes have been aimed right at my boy... Doesn't mean I won't "give it a chance" though. More than likely I'll watch, even if just in hopes they'll straighten that out... (Or at best to just see what levels of ridiculous they can reach and enjoy the discussions that will no doubt happen.)

Right now I'm just there watching any move like...



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Old 02-19-2018, 08:48 PM   #15
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Don't be an a**hole to people. The show will speak for itself. Things that have to constantly defend themselves as part of their publicity are fighting an uphill battle that they know they are losing. This happened with the 2014/16 movies, and it's currently happening with Star Trek Discovery. Rise of the TMNT appears to be on the same path.
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:57 PM   #16
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Oh lord... Before I came around, I guess. Can both sides just behave maybe...? lol Is it so hard not to harass the creators and others involved? On the other hand, if they go poking around forums and whatnot and can't take the criticism, well they did choose on their own to go stepping into the fire and maybe aught to have avoided it. Kinda goes both ways.

It may be said that they don't owe fans anything, but fans also don't exactly owe show/movie/whatever creators anything either.

But fans are going to be passionate about things they love and are going to have an opinion, no stopping that.

Bingo. Don't be jerks to people with opinions and they won't be jerks back. don't think you can handle that, don't interact with people. simple as that. And just know not everyone with some criticism is attacking. lots of people loose sight of that fast because they see the hate everywhere else and it piles up in their brain... and I think that's what happened in my case. He probably had a case of hate overload and chose that moment to let loose a little. Lucky me.

Personally, I think show creators are better off not stepping into this lions den of 'fun' that is this fandom with people ripping each other a new one left and right first chance they get.. they'll keep their sanity far faster.
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Who was the poster on here that got mad at Ciro for basically telling him to **** off after they sent him a message on Facebook about the things they didn't like about his show?
Vegita-san harassed Ciro over on his social media pages, I'm not surprised he got blocked/banned or whatever.
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I hope that if any of the Rise Crew decide to join this place, that they won't be driven off like Ciro was because Nick Baxter wasn't like his 2k3 counterpart.

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Yeah, there is no reason for you to care about the FAKE tmnt.
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I hope that if any of the Rise Crew decide to join this place, that they won't be driven off like Ciro was because Nick Baxter wasn't like his 2k3 counterpart.
I've seen him receive a lot of vulgarity from someone over the finale, just constant swearing at him, how does a person plan to get a point across that way? well unless that the point is just they aren't happy, it did that, Ciro seemed to handle the comments I saw on the finale okay though.
I was surprised to learn he was on here, when I looked for his posts I think one of them said 'I really shouldn't be here' maybe as a creator he thought he shouldn't be?

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I've seen him receive a lot of vulgarity from someone over the finale, just constant swearing at him, how does a person plan to get a point across that way? well unless that the point is just they aren't happy, it did that, but I mean a valid one.
Maybe by that point in season 5 he learned how to deal with it. Back in Season 1, not so much. After I learned how some other 'fans' had been dealing with their feelings towards the show, by going at him with all kinds of crazy stuff...some of the anger I felt at how I had been treated vanished a bit and replaced with understanding.. It all kind of fell into place.

Not one of my prouder moments. But still have no desire to seek out any new tmnt talent from this point forward. Not worth it.
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