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Old 12-03-2016, 07:24 PM   #1
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Does anyone here love the OT but not OOTS?

I was recently wondering, if there are tmnt fans out there who love the original cartoon but aren't fans of tmnt: Out of the Shadows? I ask because I am noticing a pattern, that the same people here who hate Oots are critics of the 80s series who say its a bad show and a parasite on the franchise, while people who love that show enjoyed the movie. So are there any fans who have differing views about the two? (Most preferably people who are fans of the OT, but not the movie. I doubt there are any fans of OOTS who hate the cartoon).

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Old 12-03-2016, 07:28 PM   #2
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Yes, I am one of those people. I wanna say Tothenines is in this camp too.

I am critical of the OT on these forums a lot (mostly because many of its fans refuse to admit it has flaws) but I genuinely love it, & I hated OOTS. I liked it better than the first one, but yeah, poopie.
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:40 PM   #3
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As someone who dislikes the OT and hates the PD movies, let me say that I at least have respect for OT. It made the franchise what it is, introduced a lot of great characters and concepts, and basically made 99.995% of all TMNT fans fans. (Except maybe for one weirdo in a basement who only ever read the Mirage comics, I dunno.)

It might not appeal to me and it might be pretty horrific (my opinion), but at least it had heart.
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:44 PM   #4
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I liked them both, but they're two very different animals to compare.
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:54 PM   #5
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I liked them both, but they're two very different animals to compare.
I am in this camp.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:07 PM   #6
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I like them both too, Its unfair to compare the two, they are two very different depictions, One is animated, The other is live action, Even though the live action tries to depict what was in the animated one, the animated one was a family friendly depiction of the original comics.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:30 PM   #7
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the animated one was a family friendly depiction of the original comics.
No, it wasn't. Not even remotely.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:37 PM   #8
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No, it wasn't. Not even remotely.
Lets not go through this again.
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:05 PM   #9
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Lets not go through this again.
Well it really wasn't. It had an entirely new format. The comics had the turtles face several different threats, most of the times killing them off on the first or so outing, or just trying to live their lives. The OT had the turtles constantly stop the same quartet of villains from powering up the Technodrome. The villain they killed in the first issue was somehow promoted to main villain status with a weird version of an Utrom and 2 mutant henchmen that were nowhere to be seen in the comics. Plus making April into a news reporter, Splinter into Hamato Yoshi, robot Foot Soldiers, Dimension X, all the crazy toy tie-in characters, and a long list of etc. It was it's own thing entirely.
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:13 PM   #10
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Well it really wasn't. It had an entirely new format. The comics had the turtles face several different threats, most of the times killing them off on the first or so outing, or just trying to live their lives. The OT had the turtles constantly stop the same quartet of villains from powering up the Technodrome. The villain they killed in the first issue was somehow promoted to main villain status with a weird version of an Utrom and 2 mutant henchmen that were nowhere to be seen in the comics. Plus making April into a news reporter, Splinter into Hamato Yoshi, robot Foot Soldiers, Dimension X, all the crazy toy tie-in characters, and a long list of etc. It was it's own thing entirely.
Not saying it is or isn't, I'd just prefer that this thread doesn't go off-topic into the same arguments here that have happened many times over.

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Old 12-04-2016, 12:33 AM   #11
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I like the FW show a lot, and I absolutely hate PDOotS.
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:54 AM   #12
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I like the old FW cartoon, despite the many flaws / inconsistencies that the series had.
As for the PD TMNT movies, I have a strong hunch that I might not enjoy them as much, due to the direction that both of those movies took..
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:11 AM   #13
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I liked them both, but they're two very different animals to compare.
Same here.
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Old 12-04-2016, 02:26 AM   #14
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I like the old FW cartoon, despite the many flaws / inconsistencies that the series had.
As for the PD TMNT movies, I have a strong hunch that I might not enjoy them as much, due to the direction that both of those movies took..
This is the same for me. The other thing that turned me off from seeing the first film was the fact that the Foot weren't martial artists.
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Old 12-04-2016, 02:51 AM   #15
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Yes, I am one of those people. I wanna say Tothenines is in this camp too.

I am critical of the OT on these forums a lot (mostly because many of its fans refuse to admit it has flaws) but I genuinely love it, & I hated OOTS. I liked it better than the first one, but yeah, poopie.
You got it, bub.

A lot of people here act like the OT is Looney Tunes, The Flintstones or fu*kin 1940's Walt Disney. Where really it was a cheaply made toy commercial that ended up having a lot of heart thanks to the effort of a select few writers, plus the voice director/cast.

But yes, I love it. I'm currently on season 6 in what's gotta be like my 5th series watch-through in the past 8 years.

OotS has nothing to do with the Fred Wolf show beyond the superficial. I don't even have the energy to articulate why anymore, it's right there in your faces.
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Old 12-04-2016, 03:10 AM   #16
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I marathon the original cartoon every 2-3 years or so. I think the last time I marathoned it was back in 2013, so I am overdue for another rewatch.

I think I've seen every single episode at least 15 times, some more than that since I had VHS tapes of certain eps as a kid I'd rewatch over and over.
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:00 AM   #17
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OT might not have been perfect, but compared to OOTS it was a masterpiece.
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:21 AM   #18
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The quinoa-diarrhea dump I took this morning was a masterpiece compared to OotS.

It was somehow worse than the 2014 movie. Ya know, the one with a million different writers that they completely retooled in the middle of filming.
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:41 AM   #19
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:46 AM   #20
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I don't like either, but even I recognise that Out of the Shadows is a bastardised version of the Fred Wolf cartoon. The run time of the movie is 112 minutes, that's roughly the same length of season 1 and I'd much rather watch that than sit through OotS again.

What baffles me is that there seems to be plenty of FW fans who don't see this movie as a bastardised abomination, because it's "the movie I wanted as a kid" or something along those lines. I mean really? You wanted a movie full of fart jokes, dick jokes, fat jokes, mucus jokes and even worse writing than the show?
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