02-05-2017, 04:18 PM | #81 |
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I'll post on your wall as to not completely derail this thread.
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02-08-2017, 09:05 AM | #83 |
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No it can't be topped. TMNT hit a peak around 1989-1991. In those years it was at it's best in everyway I think.
The only way the first movie could ever be challenged is if they went back to the humanoid turtles, and remade some of the comics into movies with a spin. I mean who wouldn't love to see City at War in movie form? |
02-08-2017, 12:26 PM | #84 |
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Add me to the list! In fact I like the original Terminator much more than T2. The original is a brilliant sci-fi/horror/noir film that stands on it's own without any sequels. It's like a really good Twilight Zone or Outer Limits episode.
T2 and all the other sequels are just explody action movies, that are fun to watch, and entertaining but not some kind of "masterpiece" that surpasses the original (and their existence kind of undermines what made the original so brilliant). Anyway, I don't think it's impossible to make a TMNT film as good as or better than the first 1990 movie. It's just very unlikely while TMNT is owned by a company that sees it primarily as a kid's toy franchise. But, if they would just give it to a good director (NOT MICHAEL BAY!!!), that also cares about TMNT as a whole and is aware of the whole franchise and not just vague memories of the FW cartoon. It could still happen. |
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& personally, I don't really want a CAW movie. It wouldn't be true to the comics even if they did it, anyway.
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02-08-2017, 02:52 PM | #87 |
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I mean more like the original look. Not so bulky and turtle like I guess.
The last 2 movies had them more realistic looking and bulky I guess. I'd like them to be human looking like the original 3 movies. Yeah I mean it would get murdered... but I would love a movie from the comics somehow. Wouldn't that be cool? |
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Got ya. I don't really consider the PD designs to be more turtle-like, myself. The plastron & carapace aren't even connected, bad news for their physicality. But yeah, we all long for a more traditional TMNT design, I'm sure.
Of couse it would be cool, but it's gotta be right. & as 4kids, Nick & others have proved, it's not easy getting Mirage right, if by comics you mean Mirage. The first flick (1990) was a pretty strong pull of that material but even they could've done better. I don't think we'll ever get anything closer to them than that, especially now that the goofy ass Fred Wolf stuff is being further cemented into infamy as the "definitive" vision by people who don't even care about the property as much as we do.
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02-08-2017, 03:01 PM | #89 |
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Yeah the OT is kinda wacky and I guess bad overall. I mean it has a large place in my heart for being "good" when it isn't actually "good".
I just grew up with it, and it is what I like most honestly. The style, the fun part of it.. I prefer it to the 4kids version. Outside of the 1st couple seasons, the 10 years it was out, 2/3 of it was mundane, and blah overall. Truth be told the 4kids is better I guess, but my favorite will always be the OT. |
02-09-2017, 07:47 AM | #90 |
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Nostalgia is a powerful thing. I bet the average person isn't even aware that there are other versions of TMNT besides the 80s cartoon; maybe the PD movies.
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Why would they? They never grew up with other versions of the Turtles. Anyway I'm proud to like the Fred Wolf series. I see nothing wrong with it. |
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02-09-2017, 08:37 AM | #92 |
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I mean its all subjective...
In general I do believe the original film is always going to be better. I do think The Empire Strikes Back is better than "A New Hope" for sure though. And who in the hell doesn't think "Dark Knight" isn't better than Batman Begins. That is almost a crime. Ledger's performance is a masterpiece. |
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I bet the "Average Person" nowadays beyond us old fogeys isn't even aware of that version. But now they're being constantly reminded of it and reinforced time and again that "That's the TMNT." By the nostalgiacs.
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The Nick cartoon had 1-3 million viewers per most episodes. |
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Maybe not in the UK, but definitely here stateside. There's Nick TMNT merch in literally every store you could possibly think of, & it's been that way for 4 years now. & I don't mean just toys, I mean all kinds of stuff. Pillows & blankets, clothes, party supplies, home decor, office supplies, virtually anything you can think of, & it's sprinkled all throughout these places, you can't miss it.
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I bet there a lot more than you think who are aware of TMNT outside the 80s cartoon. A lot of people who grew up watching it as a kid now have kids who watch the new show.
There is also a generation that grew up with the 2000s cartoon and many of those people have kids who might possibly watch the Nick show. Plus, the earlier generation grew up with the 90s movies and I am sure many of the latter watched those movies, as well, not to mention the 2007 film and the PD films. |
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Nostalgia aside, I don't think any movie made in this era will ever be as good as the 1990 TMNT film. People today think of the TMNT as a kid's franshise. and to most (not to me), the Fred Wolf cartoon is the definitive incarnation. Worse than that, the casual public thinks the TMNT are composed of four Michelangelos, Very annoying...
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It's probably why when I was little I was enthralled with Batman Forever so much considering how it upped the action so much...but it's such a bad movie compared to the first two. It's not to say that action doesn't have it's place, just as long as mindless, expensive looking action isn't the main idea. Look at that first Raid movie, it has such a simple plot but it's insanely focused and the action helps tell the story instead of a mindless detour.
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