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Old 03-17-2012, 01:34 PM   #21
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It's bizarre and changes everything the franchise is about. Talk about a slap in the face to fans.
Drama queen.

Depending on how they write it, it could end up being quite similar despite the origin being totally reworked.

However, my main concern (if this alien business happens to be "worst case scenario") is what's Splinter's deal? Does there just so happen to be a race of Rat people living on a sister planet?
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:35 PM   #22
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I don't doubt the Turtles will be aliens. They said in the link they updated the origin from the radioactive waste product.

It's bizarre and changes everything the franchise is about. Talk about a slap in the face to fans.
The idea, kind of like the IDW change-ups, are probably to make the TMNT's origin for some purpose (which will doubtlessly connect to whoever the main villain of the story will be, probably Krang... "I made you, Turtles! I can unmake you!" blah blah blah, I can see it now) rather than just a chance occurrence/freak accident.

For some reason that seems to bother people outside of Kevin and Peter, the origin as just a random thing. But you listen to them talk and they seem to regard it as a pretty definitive aspect of what makes them who they are -- you know, they just are.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:40 PM   #23
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The idea, kind of like the IDW change-ups, are probably to make the TMNT's origin for some purpose (which will doubtlessly connect to whoever the main villain of the story will be, probably Krang... "I made you, Turtles! I can unmake you!" blah blah blah, I can see it now) rather than just a chance occurrence/freak accident.

For some reason that seems to bother people outside of Kevin and Peter, the origin as just a random thing. But you listen to them talk and they seem to regard it as a pretty definitive aspect of what makes them who they are -- you know, they just are.
But this implies the Turtles are already intelligent, sentinent beings instead of being turtles that get mutated.

I suppose they should retitle the movie, "Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles."
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:46 PM   #24
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But this implies the Turtles are already intelligent, sentinent beings instead of being turtles that get mutated.
Put a Superman spin on it and they're good to go.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:47 PM   #25
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They can fly the Turtle Blimp at super speeds, reversing the planet's rotation!
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:49 PM   #26
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I'm really just hoping it was him being ignorant and assumed they had to be aliens.

Sure they may want to reinvent the turtles, but making them aliens is just plain lazy in my opinion.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:49 PM   #27
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However, my main concern (if this alien business happens to be "worst case scenario") is what's Splinter's deal? Does there just so happen to be a race of Rat people living on a sister planet?
Yeah, where will Splinter fit into all this?
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:51 PM   #28
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Put a Superman spin on it and they're good to go.
So the Turtles come from a race of Turtle people now?

Perhaps the writers got the inspiration of this movie from the Planet of the Turtles episode of Season 4 of the old show.

Will we also be seeing the return of Rupert the Turtle salesman?
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:54 PM   #29
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I'm surprised no one's drawn comparison to Slash from TMNTA.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:56 PM   #30
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I'm not taking what Bay is saying as good fish before someone more credible confirms it, the dude can make good explosions, that's it.

This thread is prematurely dumb.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:04 PM   #31
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I'm surprised no one's drawn comparison to Slash from TMNTA.
I don't think people mind the idea of alien turtle planets or alternate dimensions with turtle people.

But our Turtles are from Earth, they aren't aliens or humans.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:05 PM   #32
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If we do end up with a more alien origin, then what Dr.Spengler wrote in his review for the first Mirage issue becomes more prophetic than ever:

"This very first TMNT issue is, of course, the genesis of the franchise. I mean, all the movies and cartoons and other comics have done their own variation of this story; it’s as vital to the characters as "Superman and Krypton" or "Batman and depressing childhood trauma". Though one thing you have to keep in mind is that it was originally conceived as a one-shot parody of Frank Miller’s “Daredevil” (that was supposed to be Matt Murdok getting beaned in the eyes with the ooze canister) with some “X-Men” mixed in for good measure. So with that in mind, it’s kind of a weird story.

"Firstly, the “Daredevil” bit is pretty in-your-face if you’re even remotely acquainted with the character and his origin. It can be a little distracting. I mean, try to imagine if the Turtles’ origin went like this: “The Turtles stowed away on a spaceship carrying an infant, which crash-landed in a small town in Kansas, the yellow rays of the sun turning them into humanoid mutants”. Honestly, it’s more or less the same thing, just with Daredevil."

Link: http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2009/...t-vol-1-1.html

It's also a good observation, as his Superman analogy kept popping in my head when I first read the new movie plot details. So, instead, one superhero origin might be swapped for another, albeit with quite different circumstances and outcomes. As long as we keep the original comic parody in mind, it may not be as insufferable as it sounds now (plus, as Andrew and others mentioned, an alien race's waste by-product did jump-start the whole process). To be generous, such a plotpoint is only taking the alien aspect to their origin to its absolute extreme. Personally speaking, I'm not crazy about the idea, but I can understand it if rationalized in such a manner.

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Drama queen.

Depending on how they write it, it could end up being quite similar despite the origin being totally reworked.

However, my main concern (if this alien business happens to be "worst case scenario") is what's Splinter's deal? Does there just so happen to be a race of Rat people living on a sister planet?
Good point. Then it gets to the point where they're diverting too much time and effort to just make the origin story. But if they do it as good as batman begins did then I'll be happy. But they are no Christopher Nolan.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:41 PM   #34
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Maybe Michael Bay wasnt aware of the TMNT back story and just assumed they were another race from a different planet like the Transformers LOL. I really hope this is the case or I will be very dissapointed
I am hoping for this.....If they make TMNT aliens I will really dissapointed....
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:43 PM   #35
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:54 PM   #36
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Perhaps the writers got the inspiration of this movie from the Planet of the Turtles episode of Season 4 of the old show.
Or from Planet of the Turtleoids from season 5. Or maybe, Casey Jones: Outlaw Hero from season 3.

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Old 03-17-2012, 02:59 PM   #37
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If anything, I would bet it's Krang bringing in a bunch of animals to make a mutant army on Earth (an excuse so they can quickly involve other mutants like Bebop, Rocksteady, etc.) for his own ends, but the Rat Mutant does a Caesar "No!" and escapes with the Turtles. Ninjitsu and the Foot Clan (Bay was doing demo fighting with Foot fighters as long ago as over a year) must figure into things somehow, but who knows.
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:02 PM   #38
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That would be so Crash Bandicoot. And not in a good way.
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:03 PM   #39
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That one sentence will haunt me all day.

"These Turtles are from an alien race..."

Is accidental dousing with radioactive ooze really that passŤ?
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There goes all hope of this being a good movie. Why don't they make Batman an alienin the reboot after Nolan's trilogy ends. It's the same deal.
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