Have You Gotten The COVID Vaccine?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I've heard of that too. I really hope it makes here, though I'm afraid it might not cause that would ruin all the mandates and mandatory vaccine racket they're so desperately trying to push here.

Whoever is making that pill best watch their back cause they'll be on Big Pharma's **** list.

I also heard nowadays they just swab your mouth. The thing going up your nose is still an option, but my bro didn't need to go that far for the test he took before flying out.

This pill thing is what I was talking about somewhere in this thread, but I think Pfizer is developing it... or also developing one I suppose.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IMJ

This pill thing is what I was talking about somewhere in this thread, but I think Pfizer is developing it... or also developing one I suppose.

I hope so. I just hope Pfizer is working on it despite all this political madness. I'm sure someone will correct me or state otherwise, but I kinda hope research on this pill won't be mysteriously delayed just long enough for all these mandates, vaccine passports and 'vaccine or you're fired' and other stupid things to be put into place.

The bad thing is they really seem dead-set on these things, they'll probably still push for 'jab or job' despite the pill being released and being (hopefully) proven to be reliable and safe.

[That Matt Guy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Plus, you'd HAD COVID plus the vaccine? If someone wanted me to quarantine after that I'd laugh at them.

I had the vaccine and got Covid anyway which I have right now.

About boredom, sitting at home and staring at stuff isn’t my idea of a good time especially when you have a kid. I’d rather be outside somewhere not sick.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Conservative Talk Show Host Battling COVID-19 Regrets Disseminating Vaccine Skepticism

Sad to say, this guy I linked the article too recently, did not make it.

Nashville radio host who dismissed Covid and vaccines, and thought his chances of dying were next to nothing, has died of it a month after he was diagnosed.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/ent...is/5416955001/

Nashville radio host Phil Valentine dies at 61 after battling COVID-19

Outspoken vaccine skeptic Phil Valentine died Saturday, a month after his COVID-19 diagnosis captured national attention and led to his public change of heart on vaccines.

"We are saddened to report that our host and friend Phil Valentine has passed away," Super Talk 99.7, who employed the popular conservative talk radio host, wrote on Twitter. "Please keep the Valentine family in your thoughts and prayers."

Valentine, 61, announced on Facebook on July 11 he had COVID-19 and predicted he would survive. Days later, Valentine's relatives said he was very sick, and he wanted listeners to get vaccinated against COVID-19.

Article from last month:

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021...avirus-vaccine



Mark Valentine, on behalf of the Valentine family, released a statement after talk show host Phil Valentine (pictured) was hospitalized with COVID-19: "Phil & his family would like for all of you to know that he loves ya’ll and appreciates your concern, thoughts & prayers more than you will ever know. Please continue to pray for his recovery and PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!" (Courtesy of Mark Valentine)

Nashville radio talk show host Phil Valentine remains hospitalized in critical condition with COVID-19 more than two weeks after being admitted for the disease.

Valentine — who broadcasts on SuperTalk 99.7 WTN — was known for his COVID-19 vaccine skepticism.

"What are my odds of getting COVID? They're pretty low,” he wrote on his blog. “What are my odds of dying from COVID if I do get it? Probably way less than 1%."

He added: “I’m not an anti-vaxxer. I’m just using common sense.”

Now Phil Valentine wants people to know that he was wrong — and that he should have taken the vaccine. He wants others to reconsider their thoughts on vaccines.

Because Phil Valentine is struggling to breathe, Mark Valentine has been speaking on his brother’s behalf. Workers often reposition the radio host, who is still “extremely sick,” so fluid doesn’t collect in his lungs, Mark Valentine says.

“We're in for the long haul, it looks like. It's just a bad time,” his brother says, “and he wishes he could do it over.”

The 61-year-old believed he was in a group that didn’t need the vaccine. But the virus doesn’t discriminate: Young and healthy people can still get sick and end up in the hospital from the disease.

The radio host believed he would be back at his job within a few days of first getting the virus. Instead, he was “very close to death at several points” when his oxygen levels dropped, his brother says. While Phil Valentine has been communicative, health care workers have encouraged him to sleep as much as possible to save strength, Mark Valentine says.

“A lot of people didn't get the vaccine because I didn't get the vaccine,” the radio talk show host told his brother. Now Mark Valentine is on a mission to spread Phil Valentine’s new view on COVID-19 vaccines.

“That's my purpose for being here today, is to take the message that he's unable to take, and that is: Take politics out of it. It's time for us to get together and fight this thing collectively,” he says. “Just put all the conspiracies and microchips and all that business aside and go get vaccinated and don't put your family through what his wife and the rest of us are going through.”

Mark Valentine understands there’s a chance his brother could die. And while he can’t change what’s already happened to his loved one, he says Phil Valentine’s message has inspired others to get the shot.

Mark Valentine says he’s heard from dozens of Phil Valentine’s listeners who say they received the vaccine because of his brother’s dire situation — including Mark Valentine himself. He went to Wal-Mart and got inoculated after seeing what his brother was going through.

Americans can disagree on a lot of issues, Mark Valentine says, but politics aside, his family firmly believes that vaccines can save lives. When Phil Valentine is back on air, Mark Valentine says his brother will double down on that message.

“Phil will be the most pro-vaccine person you've ever seen as soon as he's able to be,” he says.

Karyn Miller-Medzon produced and edited this interview for broadcast with Chris Bentley. Serena McMahon adapted it for the web.

This segment aired on July 28, 2021.

Too sad and unnecessary. At least his story inspired some of his listeners to be smart and get their vaccine (hopefully even more now), so his own foolish death at least won't have to be entirely in vain.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Sad to say, this guy I linked the article too recently, did not make it.

Nashville radio host who dismissed Covid and vaccines, and thought his chances of dying were next to nothing, has died of it a month after he was diagnosed.





Article from last month:





Too sad and unnecessary. At least his story inspired some of his listeners to be smart and get their vaccine (hopefully even more now), so his own foolish death at least won't have to be entirely in vain.

...... he was 61 though, right in the age where CoVid is considered deadlier and he should be more careful. I mean there are charts where they list the different ages where people need to be more careful about CoVid than others. Most of us here aren't there yet. Most everyone I know in the 60's and 70's (the ones that actually leave the house) all took the vaccine.

I of course feel sorry for his loss, but his story doesn't really change my stance. Now if he was 21 or 31.... and in perfect health....


Also not to discredit the guy if he actually said all that, but these stories about people preaching for the vaccine in their dying breathes are also kinda hokey. If I were on my death bed I'd be telling people to say my final words to my brother and the people I most care about. I'd much sooner say 'someone tell Cybercubed that despite all our arguments, I never had anything personal against the guy' than say anything vaccine related. It would literally be the furthest thing from my mind.

Again, my sympathies go out to the guy, and his brother. I can't imagine losing my brother to anything, and not just CoVid. I'd rather go first than live to see him beat me to it. But this just adds to the list of fear mongering sob stories to scare people into running out to their local CVS to get jabbed up. Where's the news story about my buddy yesterday who tested positive for CoVid and only had sinus pressure and loss of sense of smell/taste for 3 days and was back to normal by the 4th? Where are those news stories?

The 61-year-old believed he was in a group that didn’t need the vaccine. But the virus doesn’t discriminate: Young and healthy people can still get sick and end up in the hospital from the disease.

But people in their 60s ARE the ones in the health-risk age for CoVid. Look at how this article is twisting the facts to suit its narrative. I feel bad for the guy but at 61 he was grossly misinformed. It's not that the 'virus doesn't discriminate', the dude was legit in the age group where he needed to be more careful.

[IndigoErth]

The article isn't a bad guy twisting facts, it's right from the man's (and brother's) own words. Was he stupid to pretend he wasn't high risk being over 60? Absolutely. But it seems he believed himself to be perfectly healthy and unfortunately people prefer to believe their own personal narratives that make them feel better, even if to their own determent. And many people in their 20s, 30s, and so on are doing that with this. 60+ are not the only people at risk.



Okay, so he's "old," that's the excuse. Unlike some others I had also linked in that same previous post, who were younger.

Like the 39-year-old father of 5 who died.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1893914.html

A 39-year-old father of five and Las Vegas casino worker has died following complications from Covid-19 after not getting vaccinated.

Michael Freedy and his fiancée Jessica DuPreez were in San Diego on vacation around two weeks ago. After returning home, Mr Freedy went to the hospital because of a bad sunburn. There, he tested positive for Covid-19.

He died on Thursday morning with Ms Dupreez by his side. “He is only 39. Our babies now don’t have a dad. You can’t say I am young and it won’t affect me because it will,” Ms DuPreez told KVVU.

Or the 28-year-old...

https://www.businessinsider.com/moth...vaccine-2021-7

Her son, Curt Carpenter, was hospitalized after getting COVID-19 in March. He was placed on a ventilator after developing pneumonia. He died on May 2. His mother was also hospitalized with COVID-19, but was able to recover.

Carpenter told The Post that her son was healthy prior to catching the virus, and that he initially believed the pandemic to be a "hoax." She said his last words were, "This is not a hoax, this is real."

Or the 27 year old whose wife said he too was healthy... Can't find an update on this guy's situation.

https://fox4kc.com/tracking-coronavi...on-ventilator/

“My husband is 27 years old and otherwise healthy,” Satter said. “He had no pre-existing conditions, no anything, and COVID took him down. The vaccine is not going to stop COVID. You can’t stop COVID, but it is going to help as far as getting hospitalizations down.”

Elizabeth explained there was no convincing Cheyne to get the vaccine before this.

“He didn’t trust it,” she said. “He was like, ‘It was made in a year. I wouldn’t want something made that soon. I want more research and I want more stuff done on it to see how it affects people before I trust it.'”

At what point do people realize it's obvious it can happen to anyone, that anyone can have the poor luck of being the person who suffocates to death within their own body from the impacts of this virus after it damages the lungs and fills them full of fluid that can't be stopped. I hope a lot of those people are unconscious, because that sounds like a terrifying way to go.



edit: I gotta add this poor guy... Feel so bad for the families of people like them, esp the kids.

https://apnews.com/article/health-co...8e842a264ecb03

Though young and healthy, unvaccinated father dies of COVID

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Healthy and in their 30s, Christina and Josh Tidmore figured they were low-risk for COVID-19. With conflicting viewpoints about whether to get vaccinated against the virus filling their social media feeds and social circles, they decided to wait.

On July 20, Josh came home from work with a slight cough initially thought to be sinus trouble. On Aug. 11, he died of COVID-19 at a north Alabama hospital as Christina Tidmore witnessed a doctor and her team frantically try to resuscitate her husband.

“She would say, ’I need a pulse. ’I would hear, ‘no pulse,’ “Christina Tidmore said through tears. “They were trying so hard.”

“Nobody should go through this. He was only 36 and I’m 35 and we have three kids.”

She is now imploring young adults not to dismiss the risk and to consider getting vaccinated.

“Josh was completely healthy, active, not a smoker.” He would have turned 37 on Saturday.

Same age as my brother-in-law who has refused to get vaccinated himself and will be 37 in a few weeks. I hope his stubborn ass lucks out. He's lucky we live in this state and not in the south or elsewhere with bigger problems right now. I'm super tired of worrying about both him and my nephew who is too young.

He hasn't been working for a while, not since working for one of the Halloween stores last fall, but he's back with them again. Setting up stores right now, but what happens when the public starts to show up. Hopefully he'll put up with the mask and not lie about his status. But plenty of customers won't be wearing them.

[Coola Yagami]

We don't know if these guys were even wearing masks or taking any sorts of precautions. We don't know the full story.

Again, I trust people with personal experience, not the media. Let's not forget all the people that were gunned down with 'bright promising futures' where they conveniently leave out the fact they were living the gang life too. I might as well dig up a good pic of me in a graduation gown whenever this virus claims me. Gotta look nice for the papers after all.


I lost a lot of faith on this when a family member of mine that never even had CoVid died of a heart attack last year. Take a real lucky guess what all the papers said he died from. That sort of **** left me jaded, and the way this vaccine came out didn't help matters any either.

It hurts the last time he reached out to me I was on vacation and about to board the flight back so I didn't have the time to talk to him at the moment. I never knew I was never gonna get the chance to talk to him again.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

The article isn't a bad guy twisting facts, it's right from the man's (and brother's) own words. Was he stupid to pretend he wasn't high risk being over 60? Absolutely. But it seems he believed himself to be perfectly healthy and unfortunately people prefer to believe their own personal narratives that make them feel better, even if to their own determent. And many people in their 20s, 30s, and so on are doing that with this. 60+ are not the only people at risk.



Okay, so he's "old," that's the excuse. Unlike some others I had also linked in that same previous post, who were younger.

Like the 39-year-old father of 5 who died.




Or the 28-year-old...



Or the 27 year old whose wife said he too was healthy... Can't find an update on this guy's situation.




At what point do people realize it's obvious it can happen to anyone, that anyone can have the poor luck of being the person who suffocates to death within their own body from the impacts of this virus after it damages the lungs and fills them full of fluid that can't be stopped. I hope a lot of those people are unconscious, because that sounds like a terrifying way to go.



edit: I gotta add this poor guy... Feel so bad for the families of people like them, esp the kids.



Same age as my brother-in-law who has refused to get vaccinated himself and will be 37 in a few weeks. I hope his stubborn ass lucks out. He's lucky we live in this state and not in the south or elsewhere with bigger problems right now. I'm super tired of worrying about both him and my nephew who is too young.

He hasn't been working for a while, not since working for one of the Halloween stores last fall, but he's back with them again. Setting up stores right now, but what happens when the public starts to show up. Hopefully he'll put up with the mask and not lie about his status. But plenty of customers won't be wearing them.

Also *knock on wood*, my bro sometimes deals with the public. Never takes off his mask. Always has sanitizer on him, learned to not touch his face and whatever (it's a difficult habit to break), the whole bit. Despite working alongside 2 co-workers that caught it, so far not even a sniffle.

Part of me thinks maybe CoVid did eat the regular flu virus. Since this whole mess started, both of us haven't had so much as a sniffle. We both somehow 'skipped' the flu this year since we always catch it round winter time, but not last year. Pretty much looking like not this year either.

EDIT- Also don't take this as me not feeling bad for these guys. My heart go out to them and their families. The sick part is the Far Left laughing and celebrating because to them being 'right' about the vaccine means more than human life. But don't forget for every tragic story like this there are millions more people that just took it as a rather nasty cold or flu and nothing more. But of course, there's never any news in good news.

No one cares about the thousand times you've crossed the street without issue. It's that one time a semi hit you that makes the news.

[IndigoErth]

Same for us, we were all pretty good about wearing masks last year and over the winter and none of us (adults) caught anything at all.

Think my nephew had one small sniffle at some point, as his school did eventually go back in person and it's hard to always keep 4-year-olds in check with this... but even he had barely anything.

Very unusual. Christmas with no one sick was nice. I don't know how well the coronavirus slips through the material compared to other unrelated viruses, but they obviously work at least to some extent enough to avoid the viruses (even flu!) that aren't as contagious as Covid. Can't say I have any complaints about that part!


edit: Okay, but that's like saying a bear walked through a First Town without any issue, so the news focuses mostly on the positives like people like and says, "Don't worry about it, Second Town, the First Town had no problem with it -- oh never mind, now the Second Town is being too lax and the bear is mauling people. Too late to warn them about the nature of bears."


Maybe no one cares about all the times you cross the street without issue, but typically people are still raised being told about the need to be safe when doing so and watch out for your own ass when you cross and avoiding unnecessary risks.

Some of these people fighting masks, etc., are basically those people, esp the ones in parking lots these days, who don't even look up anymore and expect others to take care of their safety for them.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Same for us, we were all pretty good about wearing masks last year and over the winter and none of us (adults) caught anything at all.

Think my nephew had one small sniffle at some point, as his school did eventually go back in person and it's hard to always keep 4-year-olds in check with this... but even he had barely anything.

Very unusual. Christmas with no one sick was nice. I don't know how well the coronavirus slips through the material compared to other unrelated viruses, but they obviously work at least to some extent enough to avoid the viruses (even flu!) that aren't as contagious as Covid. Can't say I have any complaints about that part!


edit: Okay, but that's like saying a bear walked through a First Town without any issue, so the news focuses mostly on the positives like people like and says, "Don't worry about it, Second Town, the First Town had no problem with it -- oh never mind, now the Second Town is being too lax and the bear is mauling people. Too late to warn them about the nature of bears."

LMAO ok I see what you mean, it was a bad example, but you know what I mean?

Honestly I think between the masks and the people not going out so much we almost had this in the bag. The real people getting sick were the ones that were refusing to take precautions and just walk around as if nothing was going on. I still remember all the Thanksgiving/Christmas posts about '**** the rules and **** the masks, I'm having EVERYONE over for the holidays and they can suck my left nut if they say anything about it'. I think we almost had it in the bag before we re-opened too soon. As soon as the vaccine came out it became all about that, the hell with all the all the other precautions, social distancing, no large gatherings, 6-foot rule, all that.

IMO had we stayed under lockdown an extra month or so and let whoever wants to take the risk go out and get vaccinated, this would have been over. The biggest mistake was treating the vaccine as a cure and re-opening everything the moment it became available. I still remember the posts reminding people that 'just because we have a vaccine now doesn't mean CoVid is over, it just means we now have more room in the hospital for you if you get it' but everyone pretty much went 'yeah yeah I got the vaccine, I'm good'.

Again for all the talk about anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers, people forget a huge amount of the people that went for the vaccine aren't doing it 'for grandma', they're doing it just not have to adhere to the safety precautions anymore. A lot of em are actually anti-maskers that did just to say 'I'm vaccinated, **** off with the masks'.

Even now after the CDC themselves have said vaccinated people can spread it just as much as non-vaccinated can, there are STILL people out there complaining about having to wear masks in large events because 'I took the vaccine, I'm fine, I ain't getting CoVid'.

[IndigoErth]

Pretty much agree with you on all that.

I mean I get it, everyone wants this to be over and some people find it easier to try to pretend that it is, I guess in some absurd hope that it will just happen... But they don't seem to get that if step 10 was the point of being done with it, we can't be stuck on step 3 and just skip the rest because it's too much effort, or because I feel stifled if asked or expected to do the work of it.


After my mom (70 and longtime diabetic) got vaccinated in January she was among those who felt that she didn't really need a mask anymore. Was a little proud of herself not "needing" it. Frustrated me that she just wasn't grasping why she still aught to, esp because we had/have people at home who were not vaccinated yet, including me at the time. (Gee thanks!)

Luckily (or is that unfortunately), Delta and a percentage of breakthrough cases out there seems to have gotten it through to her that this isn't over yet, even if you're vaccinated.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I lost a lot of faith on this when a family member of mine that never even had CoVid died of a heart attack last year. Take a real lucky guess what all the papers said he died from. That sort of **** left me jaded, and the way this vaccine came out didn't help matters any either.

That's a big thing, one which too many people unfortunately dismiss.

Like, I kind of get why the hospitals did that, considering that the number of Covid cases each of them saw supposedly was connected to some of their funding and whatnot, so "more cases/deaths = more money", but RIGHT THERE, if there was still any trust between the general public and the media regarding the virus, that's where it broke down.

Inflated case numbers, numerous deaths from unrelated causes being written off as "Covid Deaths" and added to the "official" numbers... and things being reported that heavily conflict with what people actually encounter when they do go outside. NJ, at one point, was supposedly in terrible shape. But it wasn't. Hardly anyone actually got sick, and even fewer to any catastrophic degree. When you turn on the news and see that "The Sky Is Falling!", but then you actually go outside and see with your own eyes that it isn't, you do get a little jaded and more than a little bit disbelieving.

We live in a world where you simply can't trust that the things being presented to you as "fact" are true. And that's not because the rabble are getting dumber or more obtuse, it's because the ones we're supposed to trust to give us the truth get caught lying so often that you really can't take anything they say at face value.

I forget who said it, but it's a great quote which I think will unfortunately remain relevant well into the future: "It used to be, the media told you what happened and you had to make up your own mind how you felt about it. Now, the media tells you something and you have to make up your own mind about whether or not it even happened at all."

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

That's a big thing, one which too many people unfortunately dismiss.

Like, I kind of get why the hospitals did that, considering that the number of Covid cases each of them saw supposedly was connected to some of their funding and whatnot, so "more cases/deaths = more money", but RIGHT THERE, if there was still any trust between the general public and the media regarding the virus, that's where it broke down.

Inflated case numbers, numerous deaths from unrelated causes being written off as "Covid Deaths" and added to the "official" numbers... and things being reported that heavily conflict with what people actually encounter when they do go outside. NJ, at one point, was supposedly in terrible shape. But it wasn't. Hardly anyone actually got sick, and even fewer to any catastrophic degree. When you turn on the news and see that "The Sky Is Falling!", but then you actually go outside and see with your own eyes that it isn't, you do get a little jaded and more than a little bit disbelieving.

We live in a world where you simply can't trust that the things being presented to you as "fact" are true. And that's not because the rabble are getting dumber or more obtuse, it's because the ones we're supposed to trust to give us the truth get caught lying so often that you really can't take anything they say at face value.

I forget who said it, but it's a great quote which I think will unfortunately remain relevant well into the future: "It used to be, the media told you what happened and you had to make up your own mind how you felt about it. Now, the media tells you something and you have to make up your own mind about whether or not it even happened at all."

There's also the case (at least last year, not sure if things changed or whatever this year) but since the CoVid tests were anonymous the numbers were inflated by accident. Say you're feeling bad and get tested, you're positive. That's one case. If you go next week or so to check again to see if it's out of your system and test positive, as far as they know this is now a second case. Assuming you've been sick for a month and want to see if its out of your system once you start feeling better, the same person could be considered 2 or 3 cases.

[Andrew NDB]

Remember last year when they said that tiger in a zoo got COVID (and btw, who tf would even think to test a tiger for COVID?)? How scary that was for about 2 months?

And yeah, "I only have a less than 1% chance of dying from COVID" and "I'm over 60 years old" do not jive.

[IndigoErth]

Who knows, zoos have vets and take character of their animals, and if said animals start showing signs of illness after zookeepers who work with them did as well, I suppose it's not entirely out of the question they might be able to sedate and swab their cats while examining them to figure out what's up. I remember hearing that it came from zookeepers, so not hard to make the connection if the humans tested positive.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Including people that either

A- can't take it due to underlying medical conditions as instructed by your doctor

And

B- already had it and already have the natural antibodies to fight it off

It's stupid. People don't want to think anymore. They want the answer to be as simple as 'stfu and take the vaccine', when it's really not.

We don't agree on much, but on this point we do...

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

We need more studies on people that have had CoVid before and after getting vaccinated and actually see if their symptoms were actually less severe the second time around (as well as people that have had CoVid more than once without ever being vaccinated) to get more data.

Anecdotes are only anecdotes and a tiny subset of data (see your stories earlier about the work crew from last November) but I know two people who got Covid prior to being double jabbed, and have got Covid again since being jabbed, and both experienced very mild symptoms the second time around. The pain was more having to still be in isolation for ten days until the government relaxed the rules surrounding that recently.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Part of me thinks maybe CoVid did eat the regular flu virus. Since this whole mess started, both of us haven't had so much as a sniffle. We both somehow 'skipped' the flu this year since we always catch it round winter time, but not last year. Pretty much looking like not this year either.

You won't be too surprised to learn that in many countries, the cold and flu infections rates were noticably down on usual levels due to all the mask wearing.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

There's also the case (at least last year, not sure if things changed or whatever this year) but since the CoVid tests were anonymous the numbers were inflated by accident. Say you're feeling bad and get tested, you're positive. That's one case. If you go next week or so to check again to see if it's out of your system and test positive, as far as they know this is now a second case. Assuming you've been sick for a month and want to see if its out of your system once you start feeling better, the same person could be considered 2 or 3 cases.

It's certainly not the case here in the UK because the test serial numbers are tied into your National Insurance number (what you require among other things to be taxed on income at source and have access to certain NHS facilities) so it would show multiple tests against the same person, regardless of when taken.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Anecdotes are only anecdotes and a tiny subset of data (see your stories earlier about the work crew from last November) but I know two people who got Covid prior to being double jabbed, and have got Covid again since being jabbed, and both experienced very mild symptoms the second time around. The pain was more having to still be in isolation for ten days until the government relaxed the rules surrounding that recently.


You won't be too surprised to learn that in many countries, the cold and flu infections rates were noticably down on usual levels due to all the mask wearing.


It's certainly not the case here in the UK because the test serial numbers are tied into your National Insurance number (what you require among other things to be taxed on income at source and have access to certain NHS facilities) so it would show multiple tests against the same person, regardless of when taken.

-OK but you didn't tell me how hard CoVid hit them the first time around before the jab.

-That makes sense. I guess you can't catch the flu if you're not forced to go to work everyday in a building full of people coughing and sneezing.

-I don't know if there was any of that here, hence the anonymous testing. Can't be anonymous if you're giving out numbers. But that was last year. Not sure if that changed any this year. I so far, haven't really had a reason to get tested. I never even met a person with CoVid face to face.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/23/us/te...eak/index.html

Doom and gloom in Texas! Breaking news: a morbidly obese guy died from COVID (shocker) and there's some other cases (no deaths).

Do you remember when we were in school, some kid got sick and got a bunch of other kids sick with like the flu or a nasty cold? Do you remember all the times they shut down school over that? Me neither.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/23/us/te...eak/index.html

Doom and gloom in Texas! Breaking news: a morbidly obese guy died from COVID (shocker) and there's some other cases (no deaths).

Do you remember when we were in school, some kid got sick and got a bunch of other kids sick with like the flu or a nasty cold? Do you remember all the times they shut down school over that? Me neither.

Oh, but don't despair Andrew! Now that the Pfizer vaccine has been FDA-approved, all those dark clouds will vanish and CoVid will be but a memory by the end of the week!