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That's some nice fanon you've got there.
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01-03-2018, 11:24 AM | #122 |
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I'm with Plastron on this.
Relationships are a normal, typical part of growing up and the human experience. Most versions of TMNT demonstrate the Turtles wishing they could have a more normal, human experience. It's also quite relatable. Just because most of the examples in TMNT are abysmal or lazy writing tropes (Irma + love potion, Donnie + April, et al) doesn't mean that real serious stories couldn't explore the concept very well. I just don't expect it to ever happen in a way that won't irritate me.
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It infected Jack once and almost turned him into an Aku demon, it was used by Aku to turn some of Jack's male allies into more little Aku demons during on of the very last fights, but a crazy woman voluntarily drinks a whole friggen bowl of the stuff... and all it does is make her pregnant. No 'equal' horrific demonic transformation like the men get, no siree, you'll just be a brood sow to get pregnant instead and pop out a bunch of babies, because that's what women 'are' and who wants to 'ruin' what might have been a hot screwable woman by making her into an ugly demoness? As such, it's always for a woman a preservation of her sexiness, because who wants to see an Aku demon with breasts? Naturally this double standard is defended by the hardcore shippers, because it resulted in the production of the love interest Jack falls in love with, no matter that she herself is also reduced to an object, Jack 'deserves' her because it makes him happy. As you can tell, I'm still royally steamed by it. Your description of the romance thing is very similar to what I've seen on this other show, because it tends to not only radiate out from romance, but how some writers (and creators) tend to think of women as. Basically slaves to romance, and then later a mere vessel for pregnancy. I alo had to mention that women characters aren't just forced into male-female relationships, they will force them into lesbian relationships too if they are feeling 'progressive.' It's as if a single female is creative Kryptonite, and the writers will rush to pair her off with anyone (or anything!) before she sucks all of the creative life out of the room, because God forbid she has anything major in her life or other interests that don't involve relationships or romance. I don't mind romance in some cases, but 80% of the other times it's just blatant fan service or a ratings grab if the show looks to be dying. But don't you know Andy, that would sink a thousand fan ships if they were not? Ever notice the collective hissing and mental gymnastics whenever anyone mentions the word 'bestiality?' Now notice people will give them almost all of the other features of turtles, but yet their *ahem* reproductive organs are somehow almost always exempt. It's also automatically assumed that they will like human females, but yet nothing is ever considered that they could sigh longingly at anthropomorphized female turtle drawings someone might make, or what they might find 'sexy' is stuff you would not normally see on a human woman (but would find on a female turtle.) No it's always has to be human women for some reason, despite female turtles being the more logical choice, and the only ones that could safely withstand their 'amorous affections.' Last edited by Metalwolf; 01-03-2018 at 02:01 PM. |
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Love this community... I mean, how it can go from "Look, a sketch of the next April!" to once again discussing the TMNT's potential private lives (and parts) is just...
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I don't want to encourage a trip to the disintegration unit for this thread so I'll just lightly point out that they are not regular turtles so far as what they are attracted to goes and from the kids show point some other things aren't going to be confirmed, nor will relationships go past a kiss at the very most.
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It is inevitable that this thread be disintegrated.
I wonder when the first look at any other characters will happen...
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01-03-2018, 03:56 PM | #129 |
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Mhmm... All a matter of preference and perspective on the TMNT, and I'm sure for any argument most could try to find reasons to "prove" why they're the one who is right. Be it cannon, speculation that might make sense, comparatives with regular turtles in nature (or why the TMNT might drastically differ)...
But anyway... How 'bout that April? I kinda hope she's got at least one parent, maybe a mom, that we see now and then. |
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(duck sexuality is...something.) ? I can find that case study of the female chimpanzee raised as a human child and as a result only found human males attractive, if ya'll really want me to. I'm not a No Romo person, but I will say that I'll take the No Romo side of things if presented with creators incapable of writing female characters as anything BUT a love interest. Because that sort of thing is only really indicative of illustrating just how bad a writer is at their job. In conclusion: Spoiler:
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Interesting that Raph is eating pizza in that Mirage issue, they eat pizza in Mirage more often than people remember.
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Oh sweet baby Jiminy Cricket, where can I get a pizza that has steam coming off it like that . That looks magnificent.
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As for ducks, that particular anatomic detail has always been a bit disturbing to me. Especially in terms of Disney (or Loony Toons) characters.... And I have been around Deviant Art and the fan-fic community long enough to know that MANY fans who "ship" the TMNT with humans often do so while fully acknowledging their physical differences. And are often pretty descriptive of them too. Sometimes said differences are a major plot-point or obstacle to the relationship. Those who dismiss such romantic relationships are almost always thinking very narrowly regarding the definition of romantic love, or how it is expressed or experienced. TMNT would no doubt define it very differently than the typical human would, simply due to their unique circumstances. In other words, they would find ways to adapt and make it work. If Raph can have a long term relationship with Ninjara in Archie, why not with a human too? Leo and Radical seemed to work out ok, if that issue is to be believed.
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It's downright...screwy, if you ask me.
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So, ... I wonder if Casey will be in his senior years.
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I don't think thats its likely for this series but I would be welcoming of the change.
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I am not to fond of the idea of "Black-Washing" / Changing a characters ethnicity. Like they did with Baxter in the 87' series. Or what they tried to do with the Platinum Dunes series with shredder. If I didn't know this was a April design I would think it was a design for Angel.... I really don't have high expectations for this April or this show. I didn't Like April from the previous serious that much and was drastically different from any previous incarnation. At this point I think they should create a new character to fit what they are going for.
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Now my 50 cents to the whole romance-debate. I don't think that any love-relationship would happen in the new show, but yes crushes will definitely happen.
It's not because the turtles are teenagers. It's because the AUDIENCE is. It will be a kid's show so there will be no real relationship. Why? Because sexuality is taboo in a kid's show. But to have crushes is a very important theme in the life of every kid, and a kid's show that is depicting interactions between characters can't do not to react on that in a way. That's it. Last edited by Chabrendeki; 01-03-2018 at 11:00 PM. |
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Also, TMNT indeed are not real, so your claims are equally invalid. Wow, that is some really deep...end. Also, whether you like it or not Turtles are indeed normal teenagers + ninjas. On which side they fall on - depends mostly on the series. In the old cartoon and Nick (from what I had watched) they are closer to regular teenagers. In 2k3 - to professional ninjas. Neither actually stopped them from being attracted to women. |
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