04-15-2019, 05:09 PM | #1 |
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04-15-2019, 05:53 PM | #2 |
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Not a single damn mention of any Mirage, 4Kids, or IDW characters.
I'm shocked. Only embrace the kiddie parts of TMNT, toe the party line, blah blah blah.
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04-15-2019, 05:58 PM | #3 |
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Well, to be fair, they seem to have stuck with the most memorable ones from across the spectrum for this list. As in "characters most TMNT fans have heard of".
Nobody outside of this forum knows who Hun or Bishop or Aloplex or whoever else is. Gotta work with what they have, y'know? I don't think it's a bad list. Any 4Kids/IDW stuff would be way too obscure. No character can objectively be "Best" OR "Worst" if only a handful of people know about them. Otherwise there are already like a dozen villains from "Rise" that could easily make the "Worst" list... but that would necessitate a large number of people actually watching that show, and apparently they don't. Although not having some version of Stockman on there is kind of strange.
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04-15-2019, 06:13 PM | #4 |
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Surprised they disliked Fishface/Dogpound AND Rahzar/Tokka. I guess there's just no replacing Bebop/Rocksteady as Shredder's mutant henchmen.
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04-15-2019, 10:47 PM | #5 |
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Traag the WORST one?! Seriously?! Not one of those random mad scientists from the OT, Mr. Ogg, Garbageman, or that tall muscly woman scientist from that 2k3 season 2 filler episode?!
If General Traag was unanimously considered the worst villain in the entire TMNT property history then it'd be a very good sign... |
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Who the f*ck is Eric Sachs
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04-16-2019, 01:21 PM | #7 |
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Alright, let's just break this down into two lists to make it easier to look at.
Top Five Worst according to Sara Schmidt:
Top Five Best according to her:
... Clickbait, pure clickbait. Nearly all of these can be considered major characters in whatever version they're part of. It's not even a broad variety of different versions. They're all either from Mirage, the movies, the Fred Wolf cartoon or the Nick Cartoon. If you want some terrible villains you'd have to dig way deeper than this. Anyway, let's see if I agree with her reasoning for wheter or not these characters are good/bad. Bad:
Good:
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04-16-2019, 02:33 PM | #9 |
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Tatsu is a bad character? Tatsu is one of the best and most memorable characters the TMNT franchise had ever produced. For a character only in two movies from the 90's, he's had enduring popularity for 30 years.
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I'm not saying Tatsu is a bad character, I'm saying Tatsu hardly qualifies for a top ten list, let alone being in the top three. He fit on a top 100 list, not a top ten.
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He had potential to be used elsewhere and expanded upon, but he never was in any substantial way. (No, being a boss in Sega Genesis TMNT doesn't count.)
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04-16-2019, 03:22 PM | #12 |
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Nickelodeon Bebop and Rocksteady
No mention of Nickelodeon Bebop and Rocksteady
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Well this is Screenrant who seems to just skim wikis of comic book characters to get information on comic book character histories, even Watchmojo looks for deeper cuts when doing these kinds of lists...in fact their TMNT lists are pretty decent even if they too are heavily weighted on Fred Wolf nostalgia.
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Tatsu also had such memorable dialogue as, "Hmph!" "Never lower your eyes to an enemy." and "Go, play, have fun."
Probably the best dialogue ever put to a script in a film. |
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Tatsu has about as much dialogue in the TMNT movies as Black Bolt had in Inhumans. I guess. I don't know for sure, because I didn't watch Inhumans, because I'm not a fvcking moron.
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I agree with some of the choices but not others. Tragg was a good villain and Tokka/Rahzar were threatening but only when directed to a target.
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And Eric Sachs came from a franchise aimed even lower than kids... lead paint eating mouth breathers.
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