Director FINALLY Comments On TMNT Aliens Issue

Bob · 03-23-2012, 11:43 AM

As I said, I think this deserves its own thread, because this is the first time the actual director, Jonathan Liebesman, has commented. I think a lot of people will calm down, sort of:

http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesm...erview/154499/

Hinting at motion-capture? I would be very pleased with that.

EDIT: You can merge or get rid of this thread. Sorry.

*ToTheNines* · 03-23-2012, 12:30 PM

Can't say I'm shocked, I figured Bay was either not fully informed or just taken totally out of context.

Good find though man.

*CyberCubed* · 03-23-2012, 12:32 PM

So we have confirmation that the Utroms will likely be the alien race the turtles are from. If this is the case then I guess everything is fine.

Although I bet Krang will be in the movie now.

*ToTheNines* · 03-23-2012, 12:52 PM

It was kinda weird how he was talking like the script isn't even done yet.

DarkLightDragon · 03-23-2012, 12:55 PM

Slighty more reassuring. Never really gave too much thought in what Bay said. Though I doubt this bit of news will get noticed and quell the fan rage.

*ToTheNines* · 03-23-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkLightDragon

Though I doubt this bit of news will go unnoticed and quell the fan rage.

Nothing will stop people hating on Bay. This alien talk will likely continue right up until Christmas 2013.

Other interesting notes: Filming in September possibly (hopefully they start sooner), and the movie could be shot in Canada.

DarkLightDragon · 03-23-2012, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Nothing will stop people hating on Bay. This alien talk will likely continue right up until Christmas 2013.

Other interesting notes: Filming in September possibly (hopefully they start sooner), and the movie could be shot in Canada.

Whoops, meant to say this will not get noticed and people will still rage because Micheal Bay is still attached to the project.

I hate being a newbie.

FearlessLeader · 03-23-2012, 01:09 PM

Now I am curious what characters will be involved and who will be cast as April and Casey... if both characters are used. I am just glad we can move on to people complaining about something else in this section. I am less concerned with the rest of the internet

*Candy Kappa* · 03-23-2012, 01:21 PM

as expected

1984TMNT · 03-23-2012, 01:21 PM

FYI - sounds like this is the route they will be going for realizing the Turtles on screen. Wow....just can't wait! This is going to be a MONSTER of a movie, if they do it right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM9Pvfq1KhE

TMNT is cooler than MOTU · 03-23-2012, 01:27 PM

His comments put my mind at ease way more than anyone else talking about the movie. He seems to be pretty knowledgeable and passionate so let's hope he has the directing skills and a solid script to back everything up.

*Oculus Orbus* · 03-23-2012, 01:57 PM

It feels really good to know. They've got my full attention now.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-23-2012, 02:09 PM

I wonder if people are seeing what they want to see in this interview. He isn't saying anything different than Bay at all, he's just saying it a lot more diplomatically. He's not even saying they're not aliens, he's basically just going, "There is SOME PRECEDENT for alien stuff with Turtle origins" and then goes on to... you know... not say that they're not aliens. If anything, what he's saying could be an attempt at a rationalization for making them such.

The good news is that he seems to confirm that things are still early enough along that their origin in the film could be changed. So yeah, you can bet all the scuttlebutt going on online will probably give them pause about alien plans, and apparently it's not too late for them to change gears on it.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 03-23-2012, 02:17 PM

Okay, I feel better now. The ooze is alien, which leads me to believe the Utroms may at least be referenced in the film. They will be pet turtles who get mutated. That's more like it! And if WETA gets on boards along with Andy Serkis, then we're in for a treat. If they use them and the story is good along with the action, then we will probably get a sequel, maybe in spawn into a new trilogy.

*Cure* · 03-23-2012, 02:20 PM

This is certainly a "no f*cking duh" kinda moment.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-23-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

The ooze is alien

He doesn't say that anywhere in the interview. Not even the existance of any ooze. He's only pointing out the Mirage origin as a rationalization for the "the Turtles are from an alien race" comment while not addressing it directly. In fact, in the next breath he pretty much says they don't even know what the origin is yet.

FearlessLeader · 03-23-2012, 02:31 PM

To me:

"the expansion will be true to the mythology"

Means something, somehow I don't think turning the guys into aliens is very true to the mythos of what the Turtles is in pretty much any fashion.

*BubblyShell22* · 03-23-2012, 03:06 PM

I had a feeling it had to do with the Utroms and nothing else. He may not have said out and out that they aren't aliens, but his comments lead me to believe that it involves the Utroms and that it references the ooze that mutates the Turtles.

*Oculus Orbus* · 03-23-2012, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

I had a feeling it had to do with the Utroms and nothing else. He may not have said out and out that they aren't aliens, but his comments lead me to believe that it involves the Utroms and that it references the ooze that mutates the Turtles.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I understood.

*Galactus* · 03-23-2012, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Nothing will stop people hating on Bay. This alien talk will likely continue right up until Christmas 2013.

As I've said before Bay's words were very deliberate that if the turtles are not aliens in the script he clearly meant to give off that impression to cause controversy, so in that respect he got exactly what he wanted.

His vague reaction to the controversy his comment caused and Liebsman's slighttly reassuring but still not confirming anything bares this out for me.

If however it really was a mistake on Bay's part then I'd say it's troubling that the guy producing and has so far been the public face of the movie doesn't know the very basics of the franchise and thus probably deserved the reaction.

Either way it's not like the guy was liked even before this.

03-23-2012, 11:43 AM	#1
Bob Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: UK, England Posts: 546	Director FINALLY Comments On TMNT Aliens Issue As I said, I think this deserves its own thread, because this is the first time the actual director, Jonathan Liebesman, has commented. I think a lot of people will calm down, sort of: http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesm...erview/154499/ Hinting at motion-capture? I would be very pleased with that. EDIT: You can merge or get rid of this thread. Sorry. Last edited by Venom; 04-03-2012 at 08:23 PM.

03-23-2012, 12:55 PM	#5
DarkLightDragon Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,026	Slighty more reassuring. Never really gave too much thought in what Bay said. Though I doubt this bit of news will get noticed and quell the fan rage. Last edited by DarkLightDragon; 03-23-2012 at 01:05 PM.

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FearlessLeader Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Watching Space Heroes Posts: 1,048	Now I am curious what characters will be involved and who will be cast as April and Casey... if both characters are used. I am just glad we can move on to people complaining about something else in this section. I am less concerned with the rest of the internet __________________ Artwork by Jim Lawson

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03-23-2012, 01:21 PM	#10
1984TMNT Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 566	FYI - sounds like this is the route they will be going for realizing the Turtles on screen. Wow....just can't wait! This is going to be a MONSTER of a movie, if they do it right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM9Pvfq1KhE __________________ Try to rely on YOUR, Turtle Power!

03-23-2012, 12:30 PM	#2
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	Can't say I'm shocked, I figured Bay was either not fully informed or just taken totally out of context. Good find though man.

03-23-2012, 12:32 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,036	So we have confirmation that the Utroms will likely be the alien race the turtles are from. If this is the case then I guess everything is fine. Although I bet Krang will be in the movie now.

03-23-2012, 12:52 PM	#4
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	It was kinda weird how he was talking like the script isn't even done yet.

03-23-2012, 01:27 PM	#11
TMNT is cooler than MOTU Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Southern CA Posts: 842	His comments put my mind at ease way more than anyone else talking about the movie. He seems to be pretty knowledgeable and passionate so let's hope he has the directing skills and a solid script to back everything up. __________________ Thank you for getting rid of Hamato Yoshi, Michael Bay and Co.! He was suuuuuper unnecessary.

03-23-2012, 01:57 PM	#12
Oculus Orbus Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 1,535	It feels really good to know. They've got my full attention now.

03-23-2012, 02:09 PM	#13
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,256	I wonder if people are seeing what they want to see in this interview. He isn't saying anything different than Bay at all, he's just saying it a lot more diplomatically. He's not even saying they're not aliens, he's basically just going, "There is SOME PRECEDENT for alien stuff with Turtle origins" and then goes on to... you know... not say that they're not aliens. If anything, what he's saying could be an attempt at a rationalization for making them such. The good news is that he seems to confirm that things are still early enough along that their origin in the film could be changed. So yeah, you can bet all the scuttlebutt going on online will probably give them pause about alien plans, and apparently it's not too late for them to change gears on it. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-23-2012, 02:17 PM	#14
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	Okay, I feel better now. The ooze is alien, which leads me to believe the Utroms may at least be referenced in the film. They will be pet turtles who get mutated. That's more like it! And if WETA gets on boards along with Andy Serkis, then we're in for a treat. If they use them and the story is good along with the action, then we will probably get a sequel, maybe in spawn into a new trilogy. __________________

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Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	This is certainly a "no f*cking duh" kinda moment. __________________

03-23-2012, 02:31 PM	#17
FearlessLeader Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Watching Space Heroes Posts: 1,048	To me: "the expansion will be true to the mythology" Means something, somehow I don't think turning the guys into aliens is very true to the mythos of what the Turtles is in pretty much any fashion. __________________ Artwork by Jim Lawson

03-23-2012, 03:06 PM	#18
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I had a feeling it had to do with the Utroms and nothing else. He may not have said out and out that they aren't aliens, but his comments lead me to believe that it involves the Utroms and that it references the ooze that mutates the Turtles. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.