Sonic the Hedgehog

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by DestronMirage22

I think the Japanese version of Sonic CD is waaay better than the USA release. The music is much better.

Never played Sonic CD. Are there any other differences asides form the music? And I like the cheesy "Sonic Boom! Sonic Boooooooom!" title track tbh

[DestronMirage22]

Originally Posted by Prowler

Never played Sonic CD. Are there any other differences asides form the music? And I like the cheesy "Sonic Boom! Sonic Boooooooom!" title track tbh

Aside from music, there's a few cut scene differences, but I think that's it. The music makes a world of difference though.

[Prowler]

I've always wondered why Sonic fell a bit off the radar after the mid-late 90s. OK I know Sega stopped making consoles after DC, but it's like every Sonci game that came out after the Adventure series was either panned by critics or considered by most to be average at best. It cant' possibly be that hard to make a decent 3D sonic game, can it?

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Prowler

In the first Sonic game you don't really get a very exciting payoff for getting all the emeralds. And Robotnik juggling the ones you didn't get at the end over a "try again" message doesn't make me really feel bad either.

As for Sonic 2, I've never managed to get all the emeralds in it, but I guess Sonic going super saiyan mode was kinda cool back then?

I've never been able to collect all the emeralds...but I meant this in a general sense. The cutscene before with everyone watching and Sonic escaping the exploding Deathegg and Tails getting the plane to either catch him (no emeralds) or greet him (emeralds) with the music in the background was epic to me. It also felt like more was accomplished since you had to fight two bosses with no rings, even if you had the emeralds.

[Anarchistguy]

Originally Posted by DestronMirage22

I think the Japanese version of Sonic CD is waaay better than the USA release. The music is much better.

The music in the Japanese release also makes more sense since the Present and Future tracks actually fit better with the Past tracks

[DarkFell]

For the U.S. released version of Sonic CD, I actually enjoy listening to Stardust Speedway (Present Time).

Robotnik's Boss Theme for the U.S. version of Sonic CD doesn't invoke so much the induced nightmare fuel feels for me as it used to, but it still sounds unsettling. (You actually get to hear Robo's Boss Theme in the hidden message -rumored to be- 'Fun Is Infinite With Sega Enterprises' within the game.)

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140803225716

However, I actually enjoyed listening to Final Fever for the EU / Japanese version of Sonic CD.

Originally Posted by Prowler

As for Sonic 2, I've never managed to get all the emeralds in it, but I guess Sonic going super saiyan mode was kinda cool back then?

Collecting the emeralds in Sonic 3 (as Sonic) is way better. In Sonic 2, Tails just about screws up any and all attempts to collect enough rings just to earn an emerald. It remains difficult just to get the emeralds as Sonic without Tails.

It is easier for me to obtain all the emeralds in Sonic 2 as Knuckles, and I usually earn get them all within the first level.
- You just gotta know where all of the Starposts are within Emerald Hill Zone. -

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by DarkFell

(You actually get to hear Robo's Boss Theme in the hidden message -rumored to be- 'Fun Is Infinite With Sega Enterprises' within the game.)

What is this "rumored to be" line refer to? I could be reading this wrong, but it seems like you're referring to the translation? It's not exact but that's more or less what it says.

[DarkFell]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

What is this "rumored to be" line refer to? I could be reading this wrong, but it seems like you're referring to the translation?

That is correct. Even though it is just a sentence created by one of the developers of the game with a quirky nickname, there was some confusion concerning that one message, and especially who created the message.

There was a certain rumor across the internet that if anyone found that message, then they owned a bootlegged copy of the game. I think that people eventually figured it out that they were getting worked up over a Sonic CD easter egg.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by DarkFell

For the U.S. released version of Sonic CD, I actually enjoy listening to Stardust Speedway (Present Time).

Robotnik's Boss Theme for the U.S. version of Sonic CD doesn't invoke so much the induced nightmare fuel feels for me as it used to, but it still sounds unsettling. (You actually get to hear Robo's Boss Theme in the hidden message -rumored to be- 'Fun Is Infinite With Sega Enterprises' within the game.)

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140803225716

However, I actually enjoyed listening to Final Fever for the EU / Japanese version of Sonic CD.



Collecting the emeralds in Sonic 3 (as Sonic) is way better. In Sonic 2, Tails just about screws up any and all attempts to collect enough rings just to earn an emerald. It remains difficult just to get the emeralds as Sonic without Tails.

It is easier for me to obtain all the emeralds in Sonic 2 as Knuckles, and I usually earn get them all within the first level.
- You just gotta know where all of the Starposts are within Emerald Hill Zone. -

SO I beat Sonic 2 on the 3DS for the other day and unlocked the Super Sonic mode... he turns into Super Saiyan invincible mode and thus kills everything he touches and no one can harm him. That's not fun. So yeah **** getting all the emeralds in this game ever

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Prowler

SO I beat Sonic 2 on the 3DS for the other day and unlocked the Super Sonic mode... he turns into Super Saiyan invincible mode and thus kills everything he touches and no one can harm him. That's not fun. So yeah **** getting all the emeralds in this game ever

Never knew there was a 3DS version. Could you use the emeralds in the final stage?

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Never knew there was a 3DS version. Could you use the emeralds in the final stage?

The first two Genesis Sonic games have 3DS remakes. You can get them off the eShop. They're pretty good and you can select which stages to start at. It's fun when I sometimes just feel like playing a certain stage.

I assume you can. In the Super Sonic mode you play the whole game as Super Sonic... or so I think. I turned off once I got past Chemical Plant zone with Super Saiyan Sonic.

I wish they did a 3DS remake of Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

[The Deadman]

[Prowler]

Btw, what are the zones in Genesis Sonic games you guys never liked? I've never been a fan of Marble Zone and Labyrinth Zone in Sonic 1. Marble Zone is a tad boring and you don't even run much in there. As for Labyrinth Zone it's just frustrating since Sonic might drown if you're not careful. In Sonic 2 I don't like Aquatic Ruin Zone much. Hill Top Zone also feels a bit meh and Metropolis Zone can be relentlessly cheap. In Sonic 3 screw Marble Garden Zone.

If I could pick my favourite Genesis Sonic games zones and put them all in one game it'd be:

Green Hill Zone
Emerald Hill Zone
Chemical Plant Zone
Hydro City Zone
Spring Yard Zone
Oil Ocean Zone
Casino Night Zone
Star Light Zone
Scrap Brain Zone
Wing Fortress Zone

This would have been a pretty damn good game.

[Wesley]

I never disliked most of the zones in the Genesis/Mega Drive games aside from Labyrinth Zone and Metropolis Zone. Labyrinth wasn't that bad for me, though. Metropolis was way more frustrating and the worst level ever, in my opinion.

[oldmanwinters]

I always thought Marble Zone was a terrible 2nd level followup to Green Hill but it has grown on me over the years. Spring Yard Zone was probably a pretty cool level in 1991 and was the template for the "pinball stage" but has since been eclipsed in almost every other Sonic game.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I always thought Marble Zone was a terrible 2nd level followup to Green Hill but it has grown on me over the years. Spring Yard Zone was probably a pretty cool level in 1991 and was the template for the "pinball stage" but has since been eclipsed in almost every other Sonic game.

The programmers even said that they wanted Labyrinth Zone to be the 2nd zone but realised it was a bit too hard for a second zone, so they went with marble Zone instead. And also because they weren't too sure if the audience would like the game to be fast paced in every single level(remember it was the very first Sonic game) so they put a slower paced zone right after Green Hill so the "player wouldn't run out of breath".

Well I dunno how most players felt about it but I've never been a big fan of Marble Zone.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

Nearly all the older Sonic games are on Steam

http://store.steampowered.com/search...&category1=998

The only ones missing are Secret Rings, Black Knight, Colors and '06.

I know, I own all the Sonic Steam games but yeah I'd like some of the spin-offs as well like the ones on Sonic Gems collection, Knuckles Chaotix, Flicky, Shadow the Hedgehog, etc.

I especially think not having Shadow The Hedgehog, Colors and 06 being big losses as they're basically "main line" games. I've never played 06 but I doubt it's as bad as people make it out to be, it was just Sonic Adventure 3 which came out in 2006 but played like a game from 1999.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by sdp

I know, I own all the Sonic Steam games but yeah I'd like some of the spin-offs as well like the ones on Sonic Gems collection, Knuckles Chaotix, Flicky, Shadow the Hedgehog, etc.

I especially think not having Shadow The Hedgehog, Colors and 06 being big losses as they're basically "main line" games. I've never played 06 but I doubt it's as bad as people make it out to be, it was just Sonic Adventure 3 which came out in 2006 but played like a game from 1999.

had no idea so many Sonic games were available on Steam's store.

Sonic Adventure 2 is available but not the first one?

What do you guys think about Sonic All Star Racing? I played a bit of it back in 2013 when it was free for the weekend on steam and... eh some of the cast choices were odd(football manager and shogun really?) but overall it was fun.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Prowler

What do you guys think about Sonic All Star Racing? I played a bit of it back in 2013 when it was free for the weekend on steam and... eh some of the cast choices were odd(football manager and shogun really?) but overall it was fun.

I'm a big fan of every Sonic All Star Racing game I've played.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Prowler

The programmers even said that they wanted Labyrinth Zone to be the 2nd zone but realised it was a bit too hard for a second zone, so they went with marble Zone instead. And also because they weren't too sure if the audience would like the game to be fast paced in every single level(remember it was the very first Sonic game) so they put a slower paced zone right after Green Hill so the "player wouldn't run out of breath".

Well I dunno how most players felt about it but I've never been a big fan of Marble Zone.

I always thought it was weird, especially since all the advertising was "WOW SONIC IS SO FAST, HE'S FAST! SPEED! SPEED! BLAST PROCESSING!!" and whatnot to really set it apart from Mario. The Green Hill Zone had some parts to blast though and the loop the loop and all that good stuff.... then came the Marble Zone that went right back to taking your time, timing your jumps, avoiding the hazards and all that.... just like any other side-scroller at the time.