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Old 02-04-2017, 09:46 AM   #21
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Ok, and to my understanding, pretty much every great feat in the Bible was accomplished through God. Harry Potter never said the magic at hand wasn't God's work.

Either way, it's ****ing fiction. And there'd been a million other witch/wizard stories in various mediums before it. Just goes to show what sheep people can be.
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:54 AM   #22
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Yeah, people take the Bible too literally. As religious as I am, they've always just been stories to me.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:26 PM   #23
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Harry Potter never said the magic at hand wasn't God's work.
That's funny to think about; he'd be pretty pissed off if that were the case. Parting the Red Sea is something you only have to do once in 3000 years - those wizards are at it 24/7.

"Hey... guys... you wanna try lighting candles yourselves for a change, you know, with matches or something. This constant divine intervention is getting out of hand."
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:43 PM   #24
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Here's one from my generation- parents and religious groups claiming Dungeons and Dragons role-playing (especially LARPing) was Satanic and evil. There were SUPPOSEDLY incidents of teens offing themselves (or friends) over the deaths of their characters or over events in their game sessions. All urban myth and rumor/hearsay, of course. NO such VERIFIED cases ever happened. But people were convinced it would turn kids to devil-worship and cults because they took on the roles of adventuring PRIESTS, KNIGHTS and BARDS fighting against evil monsters! (Wizards, thieves and Druids or fighters too, but you get the point.) There was even a movie made depicting the "dangers of role-playing games"- Mazes and Monsters.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:09 PM   #25
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I've seen how Dark Dungeons pushed that as well. Though it makes me wonder what kind of alternate dimension the creator lives in where the D&D playing crowd were the "dark edgy cool kids" in a college campus preying on the Freshman . And the jock was an underdog. Yeaaaah no.

I basically had the Pokémon/Harry Potter was The Devil's Work™ in my generation. My mom even used that as a ploy to make me think I wasn't getting some hand-me-down Pokémon books from a neighbor for Christmas. Well, she just said it was too violent or something along those lines.
So naturally, I was surprised and confused to get a bunch for Christmas. And even more confused when she got me and my brothers some Gameboy Colors and the original Red, Blue, and Yellow. And later Gold and Silver. It was at that point that I realized my mom didn't follow that philosophy.

And let's just say that our parents read the Harry Potter books to us at bedtime.
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:49 AM   #26
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I've seen how Dark Dungeons pushed that as well. Though it makes me wonder what kind of alternate dimension the creator lives in where the D&D playing crowd were the "dark edgy cool kids" in a college campus preying on the Freshman . And the jock was an underdog. Yeaaaah no.
The Dark Dungeon story was created by Jack Chickt, a man full of hate and was completely out of touch with reality. The dude thought Catholics was secretly pagan witches doing magic and worships the devil without knowing it, and haven't heard about Jesus
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:23 PM   #27
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So basically this thread is about what overly religious Christians complain about every decade and how it's a bad influence on kids. Rock and Roll, Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, Pokemon, Harry Potter, Dragonball Z, The Simpsons, videogames, etc.

Basically any single franchise that ever became popular was always a target from angry Christian parents claiming it was "the devil." LOL.
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:39 PM   #28
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So basically this thread is about what overly religious Christians complain about every decade and how it's a bad influence on kids. Rock and Roll, Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, Pokemon, Harry Potter, Dragonball Z, The Simpsons, videogames, etc.

Basically any single franchise that ever became popular was always a target from angry Christian parents claiming it was "the devil." LOL.
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:42 PM   #29
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What's ironic is these Christian parents only target the most popular franchises. Do they know about the sheer mass of anime out there that has violence and nudity? A lot of which is watched by kids?

If some of these Christian parents saw what goes on in anime outside of the mainstream franchises, their heads would probably explode.
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What's ironic is these Christian parents only target the most popular franchises. Do they know about the sheer mass of anime out there that has violence and nudity? A lot of which is watched by kids?

If some of these Christian parents saw what goes on in anime outside of the mainstream franchises, their heads would probably explode.
Oh geez, he's bringing it back to anime again...
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Old 02-08-2017, 02:49 PM   #31
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I don't watch much anime in general outside of a small handful of shows, but since I frequent anime forums I see what goes on in other shows. Girls as young as 10-12 shown bare naked in anime, incest between brothers and sisters, then on the opposite end of the spectrum, women with huge DD breasts flopping in the air, lesbian kissing and sex everywhere, violence with arms and heads being chopped off, kids being raped, etc. the list goes on.

People didn't know about this in the 90's because the internet barely existed. However nowadays all of Japan's stuff is easily found online and 70-80% of anime is ghastly.
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Ah I take it you've never seen (trust me, if not, BE GLAD) animes like Underlord, Biohunter (which is actually good) or their like? Yeah a lot of anime is meant for adults. Why you feel the need to lump it with the kid stuff that if Pokemon and Dragonball is beyond me, though.
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Ah I take it you've never seen (trust me, if not, BE GLAD) animes like Underlord, Biohunter (which is actually good) or their like? Yeah a lot of anime is meant for adults. Why you feel the need to lump it with the kid stuff that if Pokemon and Dragonball is beyond me, though.
Because I said mainstream media, soccer Moms, and over religious Christians only target the most popular or well known shows. Obviously more adult anime is obscure as it doesn't air on regular television, so these people aren't aware of it.

That's why I said if they think the shows that air on TV are "bad," I imagine their heads would explode if they see what 90% of other anime is about.
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True, but sometimes I get the impression you either really watch much more of those than you let on, or have had a very sheltered life in terms of what parents and kids are aware of. As a teen I was certainly aware of a lot of the stuff you describe- and my parents really didn't care WHAT I watched. They knew I was mature enough to handle it. (And they had no issues with me watching R rated movies with them, and my stepdud even knew I had seen his porn stash....)
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Well if these parents/Christians are making a big deal out of kids franchises like Pokemon, Harry Potter, Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers....then it is rather obvious these people have no idea what real violent shows actually are like or what kids are actually watching.

It's hard to believe when you read old news articles about parents complaining the original TMNT cartoon was "too violent." The show was literally filled with slapstick action scenes and barely any fighting in a lot of episodes, yet apparently that was considered violent to them.

Seriously, I'd love for these people to see anime with characters getting stabbed, their arms ripped off, killed, female nudity everywhere, etc.
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:26 AM   #36
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Duke Nukem 3D came out just after a mass shooting here in Australia where 35 people were killed. As a result, the game had to be heavily censored before it was allowed to be sold. All the blood and gore was removed, because lobby groups were convinced that the shooting, and violent entertainment were somehow related.

Even back then I knew it was BS because they also removed the strippers and sexual references. Did boobies also drive the gunman to mass murder? It was just the usual group of fundamentalists and holier-than-thou parents groups using a tragedy to extend their influence.

The dumbest part of it was that none of them understood computer games at all, and they had no idea that you could simply open one of the game's config files in a text editor, change a setting that =1 to =0, and all the censored content was back in.
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True, but sometimes I get the impression you either really watch much more of those than you let on, or have had a very sheltered life in terms of what parents and kids are aware of. As a teen I was certainly aware of a lot of the stuff you describe- and my parents really didn't care WHAT I watched. They knew I was mature enough to handle it. (And they had no issues with me watching R rated movies with them, and my stepdud even knew I had seen his porn stash....)
I like to think my mother thought I was mature enough to handle such shows when I was a teenager, and that she probably just forbade me to watch certain shows on principle alone. The original Beavis and Butt-head series was active from when I was 13 to 18, and she made me stop watching this one time she caught me watching it. I remember when MTV would have these marathons and I'd always miss out because she'd be around, or because I just simply wouldn't be home to enjoy them.

Robocop came out when I was eight, and she let my father take me to see that. She thought it would be like Transformers, but she didn't seem to do her research. It was rated R, and now she tells me that she wouldn't have let me see it if she knew. Odd thing is, I was never even interested in seeing Robocop back then. The only rated R movie I remember her letting me watch was Boyz 'n the Hood, and I was 12, both when it came out, and when it debuted on cable. She might have made an exception because of its message. It's not a movie I was compelled to see, but it's cool.

I knew a woman who, when her son was in kindergarten, his teacher told her about how he'd often draw Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers, and how she was concerned that it was a sign that he'd grow up to be violent. The lady told me that she thought the teacher was so full of crap, that it wasn't funny. I know that she raised her son better than that. At the time, her son was ten, and she said that he's an A-student, refuses to curse, and was even teaching a friend how to defend himself. He must be 27 right now, and I'd bet he grew up to be a fine young man.
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There's the current SJW moral panic on how offensive everything is affecting video games now. Ironic how the left can be as censor happy as the right was.

I remember as a kid anime was blamed for everything, since it was anime they did have plenty of perverted/violent stuff, Saint Seiya, Ranma etc were among the popular shows at the time.
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Here are some of the things I remember:

1. Harry Potter was given flack for being Satanic. This amused me so much that in college I did my Capstone essay on Harry Potter and Christianity and brought up that there are quite a few Christian morals within the series such as the whole good vs. evil thing.

2. When the purple Teletubby was labeled as gay because he was purple.

3. When there was a red Teletubby doll that said the phrases, "F****t" and "Bite my butt" when you pressed the stomach.

4. Aladdin drew criticism because someone thought Aladdin whispered for Jasmine to take her clothes off when in reality he was telling Rajah to "take off and go."

5. The Lion King also drew criticism because in the scene where Simba plops down and the flowers spread out, someone thought they saw the word SEX in the flowers when it was really SFX that was in the flowers.
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2. When the purple Teletubby was labeled as gay because he was purple.
The purple Tellytubby (Tinky Winky) was labelled gay because he carried (what we'd call) a handbag. I suspect the antenna shape also carried significance in the US because the gay pride symbol is a triangle?
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