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Furthermore, why the hell was a garbage truck just sitting around in the middle of the street in the middle of the evening unattended, anyway?
I don't know how it works up there, but around here garbage pickup is between 5 and 6 in the morning. If they didn't require it for the ending scene, then logically there would be no garbage truck there to begin with. Hmm.
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The street fight could take place at any hour, but I've always assumed it was after sometime after 2am. It's already night when they return to NYC and we don't really know the time, but it seems late. Assuming it's likely an hour or two before everyone falls asleep in the lair and Danny leaves, if you figure in his walk to the warehouse (maybe a half hour to an hour), the time spent there before Shredder orders the assault, the time it takes for the Foot to travel to the sewer lair, and even the duration of the sewer fight, it could be possibly be 5 in the morning, especially if they didn't make it to NYC until well after midnight. |
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Fair points. But the movie as-is doesn't give us the necessary information to connect those dots.
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Trying to make sense of it is a huge nightmare. It's almost as though they did a soft reboot with the SOTO film.
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Well, for one thing her apartment in Part II was a lot nicer-looking than her cramped, sorta-dirty ("Unsightly bathtub ring" ) apartment in Part I, so aside from the fact that it was upstairs from her Dad's junk shop, it's a little baffling why she would willingly choose the "crummy" apartment as her primary living space and keep the nice one as a "spare".
Also, knowing what I do of what apartments - especially big ones like hers in either film - cost in NYC... then no, she couldn't have afforded it. The place they showed in Part I would have cost a fortune by itself since it was almost a whole entire building when the junk store was factored in. She also mentioned that she ran the junk shop at a loss, which doesn't help matters. Also, the first film presents her as being only a moderately-successful reporter, at best, not a celebrity. Sure, she got a raise and a new position at the very end of the film, but... the second film doesn't exactly reinforce that, either, as she's still not treated as a reporter with any significant "clout". And didn't she have an entirely new boss? Perhaps Charles got fired by the station for caving in to April's excessive demands for a raise and a corner office? So... I don't know, I highly doubt she was able to maintain two semi-luxurious apartments AND a giant junk shop on a reporter's salary. I think the first place she had was tough enough to believe, frankly. I mean, at the end of the day, it's all fake, so maybe? Kinda like the house in "Full House"; apparently Danny Tanner would have had to be a multi-millionaire to actually afford that place if it were real life, and he probably wasn't, at least when the show started. So in the entirely fictional movie world, perhaps April had both properties simultaneously at one point. But if we're using any kind of logic at all, then no. She was probably paying about three to five grand a month, minimum, in 1989 money, just for the original apartment building. The second place obviously would have cost less, since it was "just" an apartment, but it was also far nicer, so it also definitely wasn't cheap. NYC is a ridiculously expensive place to live; most people can't afford ONE apartment there, let alone two. Ultimately, the people who made the second film simply weren't at all concerned about continuity, because they knew most people watching it were 7.
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I don't know. When I first watched the sequel at 8 I was really fussy about making sure there was continuity with the first. Anyway it's not like they didn't bother to make any attempts at continuity with the first movie at all.
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I don't think it is that they weren't concerned about continuity as much as they were trying to distance themselves from the darker first film while aligning closer to the more cheerful animated series.
Therefore, April's unkept (and burned-down) apartment in a rundown neighborhood became a posh suite in a high-rise residential complex. The dark alleyways and messy sewer lair were traded in for colorful shopping centers and an extravagant and theatrical subway station. Saki, who was probably meant to stay dead (a blood spurt was even deleted), was brought back to be killed again, but this time going out as the more "toyetic" Super Shredder. The score was lightened up and the humor became even more pronounced and cartoon-y. No more foot soldiers frying to death from electrocution, no more misguided teens being harshly beaten by their surrogate father figures. But personally, I think the most unfortunate thing lost in this transition was the sincerity and how the Turtles were treated as flesh and blood people capable of thoughts and feelings, not just caricatures with trademark personality traits and catchphrases. I see SOTO as being somewhat akin to Batman Forever, another sequel that brought drastic tonal and conceptual changes to a series that started off darker, but still retained some of the cast and a vague level of consistency. Last edited by sgtfbomb; 03-25-2020 at 08:42 PM. |
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Exactly this. Similar outcomes, as well.
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