IDW's "no kill" policy

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Sewer Turd

What about killing their enemies by accident in self defense?

Even that leads to big “boohoo” storylines. Remember when Leo accidentally stabbed Slash when he was still feral?

[Zog The Magnificent]

And yet, and I cannot possibly stress this enough, the flagship, more "for kids" 2012 cartoon that was going at the same time as the comic, allowed the turtles to kill. Several times, in fact. But in IDW? The more "mature" series ostensibly aimed at a mostly adult audience? The weasels have a higher body count, and the Turtles have gotten Yoinked on every single major villain.

[Andrew NDB]

This is going to make a lot less sense if the Last Ronin movie actually happens. Not that the Turtles even killed people in that, did they? Just cyborgs? And then the Saki descendant drowned himself? Hm.

[GameCobra]

What's funny is, since i binged read the turtles last year, is that Leonardo is not only the leader, but is suppose to be the one that was taught by Splinter to make the tough calls: including killing. He has the swords for that reason.

Granted, I don't mind they stick to the no kill rule, but Zodi is an interesting dilema in this series. No qualms about killing and is pretty much in my opinion one of the best villains that Raph and Alopex fought against philosophy-wise in the series. Heck, I wouldn't mind if she was Alopex's regular rival.

That being said, Leonardo and Zodi show an interesting perspective of the no-kill rule that I enjoyed seeing challenged.

[ToTheNines]

That it’s a “debate” at all is corny. There should be no moral quandary. If you’re engaging in combat with a deadly weapon, you should reasonably be prepared to kill. And if not for the simple concept of self-defense, then surely for your family.

That’s especially unnerving. The fact that basically the main theme of any version of TMNT is “family” and you’re going to tell me Leo should think twice if someone was about to kill one of his brothers?

I also don’t get why they can’t keep it vague. Splinter and the Turtles killed many enemies in both 4kids and the 2012 show. It just wasn’t explicit or dwelled upon. No one really sh*ts on the 1990 movie. Conveniently no one was ever severely injured on screen, due to the PG rating. But you definitely got the sense that they were trying to take Shredder out, and vice versa, on that rooftop.

[TheLabRat]

At least 2012 Splinter told his sons in season 1 to "do lots of harm" if necessary and seek victory not fairness because they were ninjas.

For some reason, this is why I don't like IDW Splinter, he's actually the one who taught his son ill fit pacifism. But then, he agreed to become Shredder's kaishakunin and take over Foot Clan. No matter how noble his reason, he actually set a bad example for his sons because he betrayed his own teachings. That's why his sons left him after he ordered Jennika to kill Darius Dun. Now we see that nothing good came of his teachings. Each times, the turtles become weaker and more depressed than before, and most of major villains have become more psychotic evil and keep returning to haunt the turtles all the time.

[Stu_Padasso]

So if if the Turtles can’t kill, what is Nickelodeon’s policy on eye gouging, compound fractures and spinal injuries?

Originally Posted by TheLabRat

At least 2012 Splinter told his sons in season 1 to "do lots of harm" if necessary and seek victory not fairness because they were ninjas.

Didn’t 2012 Leo cut Tiger Claw’s arm off?

[Andrew NDB]

Nick might give some notes about that kind of stuff but probably won't go crazy about it. They literally just don't want the Turtles killing humans.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Nick might give some notes about that kind of stuff but probably won't go crazy about it. They literally just don't want the Turtles killing humans.

It’s interesting that they even reprinted the Mirage stuff.

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by Stu_Padasso

So if if the Turtles can’t kill, what is Nickelodeon’s policy on eye gouging, compound fractures and spinal injuries?

We do actually have an idea about this as Sophie stated that she wasn't allowed to have Raph take Hob's good eye but we did see him drive his sai through Hob's shoulder.
Also Leo cut off Zodi's stinger and broke Koya's wings, so there is a degree of maiming permitted.

[TheLabRat]

Then, Koya gets magical wings from a mystical talisman, Zodi get a bionic stinger. Karai has a lot of technological resources and can even to give her minons more powerful bionic prosthetics and now she even has dragon magic. So it's useless because they will only come back and get stronger. But the turtles have to rely on others to kill them, or accidentally suicide like a disney villain.

[ToTheNines]

I remember even as a small child, it always drove me nuts in “superhero” fiction when any character would agonize over whether or not it was justified to eliminate their enemies.

That’s one thing I always loved about the MCU. All the main characters would kill when necessary, and it wasn’t some big crying moment. It just makes sense when you’re protecting others.