Nightmares Recycled

[The Turtle Terminator]

I'm just wondering if there's anything about this episode (e.g. early script, early character designs/animation) on the Internet

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, PL has the entire script on his blog in one of his older posts. Most of it though is just PL criticizing the 4kids writers telling them to change everything or how stupid some things were.

[The Turtle Terminator]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Yeah, PL has the entire script on his blog in one of his older posts. Most of it though is just PL criticizing the 4kids writers telling them to change everything or how stupid some things were.

Thanks. You don't have a link for it do you?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....y-11-2005.html

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....or-ep-110.html

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....y-26-2005.html

That episode was much better off being cancelled.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, I don't think anyone was dying to see Garbageman get a third episode. Now we can just assume he died/drowned at the bottom of the ocean in his second episode. Heh.

[ABrown]

Well I actually do consider the episode to be canon. We just never got to see it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Yeah, PL has the entire script on his blog in one of his older posts. Most of it though is just PL criticizing the 4kids writers telling them to change everything or how stupid some things were.

Not the entire script. Quite a few excerpts, though.

[Netkeeper]

Man I love it whenever someone links PL's blog, I especially love reading those Goldfine emails. I laugh so hard whenever he corrects the writer's grammar or spelling, I don't even think that's part of his job is it? He just does it and that's amazing and I love it

As for the episode itself, idk, if Laird thought it eventually had potential I'd be willing to give it a chance even if I do think the obvious elements of it are a bit... wtf

[CyberCubed]

It's kind of funny the way he talks down to professional writers/directors in the animation industry as if they're "beneath him" when he's just an independent comic book artist. It's not like he's any more of a professional than they were. Most of the 4kids writers like Christopher Yost have been in the industry for years and written for dozens of other cartoons.

[sdp]

Those posts were always hilarious, especially since he was usually right.

Nightmares Recycled..I have mixed feelings about it, on one hand Garbage Man was the worst character in TMNT history and both his appearances were horrible, but when this episode got cancelled we got nothing in exchange so we just lost an episode, and who knows, maybe it could've redeemed the character and made his past appearances be better in hindsight? Then again it was playing hot potato as it could've ruined Hun's character.

I guess if you want to believe the episode still happened it's fine but if you want to ignore that's fine too since it was never made.

I wonder how the season 5 had been if it had had 26 episodes as it was originally meant to before they pulled the plug and moved to Fast Forward. IIRC it was Laird who paid to have it made, same with Turtles Forever. Here at the drome Laird gets a lot of hate but he really did a lot for the franchise.