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Old 03-20-2017, 12:49 PM   #61
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Who voices Newtralizer? Could that lack of a VA also why Newtralizer had such a long absence from Season 2 to 5?

I also know Spiderbitez disappeared because of his VA too but nobody cares there because well...it's Spiderbitez.
It's just... hard to visualize. I'm sure they plan out a season in advance, write all the scripts, do pre-vis, all that stuff. You plan out these future episodes with Mutagen Man (or WHOEVER), all that. They do all that stuff, and suddenly, somehow the voice actor can't come so... they just axe the episodes entirely? You kind of scramble about then, quickly make new episodes instead from the ground up?

I mean, that can't be the way the business works. It isn't. That's not even a viable business model.

I could see, maybe, Ciro had some ideas for new Mutagen Man or Newtralizer he wanted to do, ran them by Nick and they just said "No." Or maybe he pitches 40 episodes for a season, which would include extra Mutagen Man or Newtralizer, with the knowledge that only 22 of those will get picked up (beyond the obligatory "premiere" and "conclusion" episode)... and none of the ones with Mutagen Man or Newtralizer were chosen.

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Old 03-20-2017, 02:14 PM   #62
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The other thing is why not recast them with new actors since they're minor characters? It's not like kids are going to notice or care about a different voice for a random mutant.

They recasted Leonardo from Jason Biggs to Seth Green of all people, one of the major characters of the show with two high profile actors. So I'm sure they could recast some minor recurring characters like Newtralizer, Mutagen Man, etc.
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:49 PM   #63
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The other thing is why not recast them with new actors since they're minor characters? It's not like kids are going to notice or care about a different voice for a random mutant.

They recasted Leonardo from Jason Biggs to Seth Green of all people, one of the major characters of the show with two high profile actors. So I'm sure they could recast some minor recurring characters like Newtralizer, Mutagen Man, etc.
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Nick dropping Jason Biggs as Leo was for a different situation.


Danny Trejo and Lewis Black are both high end celebrities and Nick can't add them to budget on a regular basis.

ROdger Craig Smith could possibly have broke contract with Nick and that's why they no longer use his character.
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:56 PM   #64
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Danny Trejo and Lewis Black are both high end celebrities
No they're not.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:00 PM   #65
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No they're not.
Nah, but they're both probably EXPENSIVE celebrities.
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No they're not.
Lewis Black is an A-list comedian
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:45 PM   #67
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You know its a damn shame we didn't see monkey brains and rat king confront each other after Monkey Brains became more intelligent.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:05 PM   #68
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You know its a damn shame we didn't see monkey brains and rat king confront each other after Monkey Brains became more intelligent.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:12 PM   #69
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You know its a damn shame we didn't see monkey brains and rat king confront each other after Monkey Brains became more intelligent.
Read the Nick comics.

They utilize some of the other characters more. We see Baxter and Spiderbitez team up in an issue, we see the Punk Frogs come to NY, another Muckman story, more Foot Clan fights, etc.

In my mind they are canon to the show and nobody can tell me otherwise.
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The comics raise the question then, what stopped them from using certain characters like Mutagen Man or Newtralizer and having stories that involved them, if they weren't gonna be used in the actual show? There'd be no problems with the VA's being available. Such a waste those comics turned out to be. They had the opportunity to fix on the show's mess-ups, and instead they just spat out boring story after boring story.
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Yeah, I was pretty bummed when Byerly stopped writing for it. They just wanted to to tell innocuous stories that didn't step on the toes of the show's continuity. It shined when they cut loose and didn't worry about that stuff though, like the Zodiac story, the current Batman crossover, etc.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:58 PM   #72
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They were probably told the Nick comics couldn't contradict any important continuity of the show or do anything major with Shredder (he's left out of almost all the Nick comics but a few), so they couldn't go full Archie with them and do their own thing.

There's still some good stories in them, even if they're all essentially "filler" stories. As said the Rat King Vs. Monkey Brains issue is one of the best and was just like an episode of the show.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:04 PM   #73
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I'd love them to be able to go full Archie next year once the show's over but sadly with the show ending the comic likely will as well. But it would be fantastic if they did a post show comic where they could really do anything they wanted and be the main narrative rather than just telling side stories (fun as some are)
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I'd love them to be able to go full Archie next year once the show's over but sadly with the show ending the comic likely will as well. But it would be fantastic if they did a post show comic where they could really do anything they wanted and be the main narrative rather than just telling side stories (fun as some are)
Doesn't look like the readership is there for that.
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Yeah, it is a shame that they didn’t have Rat King and Rockwell meet up again in the show. That would’ve been an interesting meet up. Sucks Rat King wasn’t around more in general.

It still seems like the show is trying not to use too many of the characters that are featured heavily in the IDW comics…like the Mutanimals.
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It still seems like the show is trying not to use too many of the characters that are featured heavily in the IDW comics…like the Mutanimals.
I doubt that there would be any issues regarding the use of those characters. I mean, the IDW comics aren't mainstream and I can't imagine any negative affects from them both using the same characters at the same time. They've done it before in the past. They probably aren't using those characters because they forgot about them or serve no purpose for whatever stories they're trying to come up with.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:51 PM   #77
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It still seems like the show is trying not to use too many of the characters that are featured heavily in the IDW comics…like the Mutanimals.
I seriously doubt the IDW stuff is much on Ciro's team's radar beyond notes that get passed to theme from up above (i.e., Alopex).
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I seriously doubt the IDW stuff is much on Ciro's team's radar beyond notes that get passed to theme from up above (i.e., Alopex).
The Nick series started to faze out Pigeon Pete in favor of Mondo Gecko…a reimagined character from the past (Archie/OT). I know Nick used Pigeon Pete first and then IDW started using him, but it’s still weird. It’s like the two series on both sides don’t want to use certain characters a lot for their mediums since they're running concurrently. Like I said, it seems to be that way, not saying that it definitely is. Just speculation.
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IDW and Nick use exactly the same characters, just not the new characters introduced for either series. So for example Old Hob won't appear in the Nick cartoon, and characters like Snakeweed, Fishface and Tiger Claw won't appear in IDW.

The only exception is Alopex so far, but she's practically a Ninjara expy anyway. Even moreso now since the Nick cartoon gave her brown fur like Ninjara instead of an Arctic white fox like the IDW version.
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:16 AM   #80
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I also know Spiderbitez disappeared because of his VA too but nobody cares there because well...it's Spiderbitez.
I must be the only person in the fandom who actually liked that character. Then again, he was played by Lewis friggin Black!!! That guy's a comedy legend!!!
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