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Old 12-02-2019, 11:36 AM   #41
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I may finally order a subscription and sit down with this tonight. Very curious about this show.

On a semi-related note, when I look at the fact that there are seven, hour long episodes of "Watchmen" already, it sort of blows my mind. Just the wealth of video content that comic book fans are getting these days still blows my mind.

Sure, it doesn't have quite the same production values or tied-in excitement that comes with a blockbuster film, but it's another case of "if you told me 10-15 years ago that..." I'd have 7 hours of "Watchmen" just waiting for me, I'd have dropped everything and called in to work, sick.
I'm so spoiled at this point though, that I'm just sort of numb to it. The mixed reception doesn't have much to do with it, because I find that divisive shows like this have to be seen to be analyzed before being judged. So, yeah, I'm excited, but I'm always fascinated by how much content of interest to me keeps releasing and how it has informed my excitement levels. The fact that there is a full season of Doom Patrol based on Grant Morrison's work that I haven't taken the time to watch all of blows my mind. Although maybe it just speaks to my preference for the books.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:38 AM   #42
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it's another case of "if you told me 10-15 years ago that..." I'd have 7 hours of "Watchmen" just waiting for me
I've watched two hours of this show so far and can honestly say that after doing so, I really watched 0 hours of actual "Watchmen" content and 2 hours of virtue signaling.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:45 AM   #43
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I've watched two hours of this show so far and can honestly say that after doing so, I really watched 0 hours of actual "Watchmen" content and 2 hours of virtue signaling.
That sounds terrible, but I find that perspectives on political angles in entertainment can vary wildly. See: Joker.
I'll probably come back and share my thoughts in the next few days. All due respect though, if you watched two episodes and came to that conclusion. I may feel the same way.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:59 AM   #44
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That sounds terrible, but I find that perspectives on political angles in entertainment can vary wildly. See: Joker.
I'll probably come back and share my thoughts in the next few days. All due respect though, if you watched two episodes and came to that conclusion. I may feel the same way.
I'm curious to see what you think.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:34 PM   #45
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Dude, this show is badass. Really great writing and interesting concepts. The police using secret identities, Rorscach's message being maligned and misread in favor of a modern kkk. Really interesting ways to play off the original story.

"And it doesn't matter how I answer your question, because I already know you're sending me to hell."

'How do you know that?'

"Because I'm already there."

Such a cool line coming from "Dr. Manhattan".

Three episodes in but out of the three new shows I've checked out this year, this is my favorite so far. I have to say I'm not seeing the virtue signaling. From my perspective, every side is pretty messed up so far.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:44 PM   #46
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I just lost interest in this project when everything seemed to be totally SJWed up the max but if this is true:

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I have to say I'm not seeing the virtue signaling. From my perspective, every side is pretty messed up so far.
That's great, from what I had seen it did seem like it would be like this.

I want to believe.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:48 PM   #47
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I'd just as rather avoid the subject, because I find myself able to enjoy this show without feeling at all like I'm being preached to. But it is a topic surrounding the show.

Now, that's just my perspective. Others may feel different, but for what it's worth, I've never identified with any type of SJW status. I don't have a bias or a political hard-on for it. I'm just enjoying the fiction of the story.
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:57 PM   #48
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If nothing else, this show reminded me how much I love the book. After reading it several times and watching the movie several times over the years, I had sort of had my fill with the lore and needed a break.

But last week I ordered the recent "DC Modern Classics" edition of Watchmen, which is gorgeous, so I'm glad to be enjoying the story that way. Watchmen has a poetic quality to it's panels & storytelling, that erases the tedium of re-reads. My favorite comics tend to have this quality.

That said, with one episode to go, I've really enjoyed this series. The spirit of the book is alive in the way they layer the story with parallels and imagery. They build off the original twelve issues in fascinating ways. It's different, but it's good.

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Old 12-11-2019, 10:58 PM   #49
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I'd just as rather avoid the subject, because I find myself able to enjoy this show without feeling at all like I'm being preached to. But it is a topic surrounding the show.

Now, that's just my perspective. Others may feel different, but for what it's worth, I've never identified with any type of SJW status. I don't have a bias or a political hard-on for it. I'm just enjoying the fiction of the story.
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That said, with one episode to go, I've really enjoyed this series. The spirit of the book is alive in the way they layer the story with parallels and imagery. They build off the original twelve issues in fascinating ways. It's different, but it's good.
100% this. Virtue signaling didn't jump out at me at all. I wasn't anticipating the show one bit, but Lindelof really knocked it out of the park. It's way better than the Snyder movie, which I honestly didn't mind at all. It's a worthy follow up to the original work.

My only complaint is not enough batshit Jeremy Irons.
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Old 12-21-2019, 05:54 PM   #50
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100% this. Virtue signaling didn't jump out at me at all. I wasn't anticipating the show one bit, but Lindelof really knocked it out of the park. It's way better than the Snyder movie, which I honestly didn't mind at all. It's a worthy follow up to the original work.

My only complaint is not enough batshit Jeremy Irons.
Jeremy Irons was so entertaining, and I was surprised to find that the sort of idiosyncratic take on the character made sense to me.

I also agree that it was a more successful adaption than Snyder's, which I appreciate as a companion peice to the book, but doesn't stand on it's own. As far as personal collections, I'm happy to have the original book and this series.

I'm on my second watch of the show now and enjoying it even more. It will be really interesting to see where they go with season 2, especially, to me, if they take the route of introducing new protagonists, while featuring some returning ones. I'd also love to see flashbacks to the original story. I realize it's dangerous fan-service territory though, if not done with good intentions, but I can't deny my desire to get a glimpse of Rorscach in the alleys, or the Comedian in his bondage mask.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:27 PM   #51
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So Lindelof reached out to Robert Redford to be involved in the show because he's "a prominent progressive liberal, who shares many of the same ideologies with a number of us, behind the scenes" :

https://heroichollywood.com/watchmen...eo-invitation/
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:55 PM   #52
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So that's a new hiring criteria?
LOL.
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Old 01-15-2020, 03:31 PM   #53
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Does HBO do 4k releases for shows that aren't aired in 4k?
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Old 01-15-2020, 04:14 PM   #54
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So that's a new hiring criteria?
LOL.
Not new. It's pretty much the only way anyone in Hollywood is "allowed" to work, anymore.

Just ask Dean Cain.
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Old 01-15-2020, 04:26 PM   #55
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And if they're truly looking to cast to "type," shouldn't they have been looking for a die-hard Republican? It doesn't make any sense.

President Redford isn't supposed to be a liberal, is he?
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:15 AM   #56
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Watchmen won't be back for a second season as Damon Lindelof doesn't want to do another.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entert...ls/4491269002/
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:39 AM   #57
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Wasn't that something they said up front that it may only be 1 season?
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Old 01-17-2020, 07:04 AM   #58
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I can live with that. After all, we just got a huge dose of the show and I'm quite satisfied.

I'll be there with open arms if they decide to bring another showrunner aboard for second season though.
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Watchmen won't be back for a second season as Damon Lindelof doesn't want to do another.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entert...ls/4491269002/
Yeah, it's a bit like leaving the big flaming bag of poo on the porch... and then running away.
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Did it have an ending?
Was it a good sequel to watchmen?

I don't care if it was SJWfest as long as it was good and felt like it belonged in the watchmen universe.
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