Emma Stone to star in Disney's 'Cruella' - Page 2

*Leo656* · 02-20-2019, 04:53 PM

I'm very inclined to believe that "She was a bitch" was more than enough to suffice as "explanation" for most people. Especially the target audience of 3-to-9 year olds.

It's like, you go into "Oz, The Great and Powerful", and now the Witch is infinitely LESS interesting than she was before. I'm generally not a fan of these things. At least when they try and ascribe "epic backstories" to what is ostensibly children's entertainment, and doubly when they try and make you empathize with the villains. They're villains!

It's a far cry short of finding out that Big Boss was secretly the HERO of the Metal Gear Saga all along, rather than the villain, is what I'm saying. Most often all you do is lose the mystique.

*Utrommaniac* · 02-20-2019, 05:40 PM

I mean, even Wicked tried in both versions. But even that was being written because the author was more butthurt about the Wicked Witch being seemingly pure evil.

And Maleficent did an even worse job. I'd say "we don't talk about Maleficent", but that's unavoidable.

There's a reason why Twisted exists, and that's to make fun of this very concept...while also telling a better story than those.
And even during this scene, of all the villains telling "their" side of the story, they all found Cruella indefensible.

"They're babies!"
"Why would you do that?!"

~~But Defying Gravity, man...~~

*Leo656* · 02-20-2019, 05:45 PM

Good call.

My wife is a big fan of "Wicked" and "Maleficent" and all that. BUT, she too is an evil witch with a Persecuted Victim complex, so I personally believe that the viewer's own psychological profile has a direct correlation to what they take away from these things.

*ProactiveMan* · 02-20-2019, 06:28 PM

Entrepreneurial young fashion designer voted off the first week of Project Runway for controversial use of real fur. She becomes embittered over unreasonable social morays surrounding the tanning of domestic dogs, and the fact that she blew Harvey Winestein for no reason.

*ranger_scout* · 02-20-2019, 08:56 PM

Clearly Disney liked what Craig Gillespie did for someone who universally despised by the public in Neon's I, Tonya and want him to try to the same for an iconic villain like Cruella de Vil. Mostly everyone viewed Tonya Harding as a villain, but Gillespie wanted people to at least know that her life was very tough growing up and she might not have been as bad as we thought and show at least a little bit of sympathy for her. I never liked Harding as a person, but if that was what her early life was like then that's too bad. Cruella has always been a uniquely entertaining villain and it's going to be strange to try to make feel bad for her.

*ranger_scout* · 03-12-2019, 02:50 PM

Nicole Kidman is reportedly being eyed to play a Baroness who is responsible for turning Cruella into the villainous character we all known her as.

https://movieweb.com/cruella-movie-n...illain-disney/

*Utrommaniac* · 03-12-2019, 07:03 PM

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 03-12-2019, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

Nicole Kidman is reportedly being eyed to play a Baroness who is responsible for turning Cruella into the villainous character we all known her as.

https://movieweb.com/cruella-movie-n...illain-disney/

Not the husband or the father? Seriously?

Damn. Points for creativity, I guess?

*Utrommaniac* · 03-12-2019, 07:58 PM

This is Disney, she's probably a step mother

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 03-12-2019, 09:54 PM

Or a mentor, maybe? With a highly questionable sense of ethics?

*ranger_scout* · 05-07-2019, 12:15 PM

Cruella wants to get her new movie done literally "if it takes till next Christmas". It's scheduled for release of December 23, 2020.

Cruella Release Date and Details for Emma Stone Disney Film

*ranger_scout* · 05-14-2019, 08:34 PM

Emma Thompson is actually in talks for the part that Nicole Kidman had been the front-runner for.

Emma Thompson in talks to star in Emma Stone's Cruella movie

*sdp* · 05-14-2019, 08:37 PM

*ranger_scout* · 08-07-2019, 04:00 PM

Paul Walter Hauser (BlackKkKlansman) and Joel Fry (Game of Thrones) have joined the film as Horace and Jasper, respectively.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...ruella-1227660

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/d...ne-1203295464/

*ranger_scout* · 08-24-2019, 01:54 PM

Here's the first official look.

https://deadline.com/2019/08/cruella...ff-1202703533/

Earlier this month, Disney postponed the release till Memorial Day Weekend 2021 to avoid competition with Stephen Spielberg's remake of West Side Story . I also think that Aladdin's having a stellar opening around that time might've played a part in that decision. Interestingly, that year also marks the 60th anniversary of the original animated movie as well as the 25th anniversary of the remake starring Glenn Close.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...pushed-1233375

*Papenbrook* · 09-04-2019, 06:21 PM

I'm digging the punk-esque sweater vest.

Otherwise, I'm not interested in viewing a film that'll try to sympathize with an animal abuser.

*AT-Man* · 09-05-2019, 09:01 AM

When do we get a movie about how Baroness turned evil? How about how the one who turned Baroness evil, was turned evil? Eventually we'll get to the root of all evil. But who turned them evil?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-05-2019, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AT-Man

When do we get a movie about how Baroness turned evil? How about how the one who turned Baroness evil, was turned evil? Eventually we'll get to the root of all evil. But who turned them evil?

Mickey Mouse, and his accursed lust for riches and material wealth.

*Utrommaniac* · 09-05-2019, 01:55 PM

Was I supposed to know Steven Spielberg was remaking West Side Story, or did I just find out about that on a thread about useless Disney villain backstory?

*ranger_scout* · 09-11-2019, 08:41 PM

Spoiler:

Also,

Spoiler:

02-20-2019, 04:53 PM	#21
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	I'm very inclined to believe that "She was a bitch" was more than enough to suffice as "explanation" for most people. Especially the target audience of 3-to-9 year olds. It's like, you go into "Oz, The Great and Powerful", and now the Witch is infinitely LESS interesting than she was before. I'm generally not a fan of these things. At least when they try and ascribe "epic backstories" to what is ostensibly children's entertainment, and doubly when they try and make you empathize with the villains. They're villains! It's a far cry short of finding out that Big Boss was secretly the HERO of the Metal Gear Saga all along, rather than the villain, is what I'm saying. Most often all you do is lose the mystique. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

02-20-2019, 05:40 PM	#22
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	I mean, even Wicked tried in both versions. But even that was being written because the author was more butthurt about the Wicked Witch being seemingly pure evil. And Maleficent did an even worse job. I'd say "we don't talk about Maleficent", but that's unavoidable. There's a reason why Twisted exists, and that's to make fun of this very concept...while also telling a better story than those. And even during this scene, of all the villains telling "their" side of the story, they all found Cruella indefensible. "They're babies!" "Why would you do that?!" ~~But Defying Gravity, man...~~ __________________ DeviantART

02-20-2019, 05:45 PM	#23
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	Good call. My wife is a big fan of "Wicked" and "Maleficent" and all that. BUT, she too is an evil witch with a Persecuted Victim complex, so I personally believe that the viewer's own psychological profile has a direct correlation to what they take away from these things. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

02-20-2019, 06:28 PM	#24
ProactiveMan Spooky ghost Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,266	Entrepreneurial young fashion designer voted off the first week of Project Runway for controversial use of real fur. She becomes embittered over unreasonable social morays surrounding the tanning of domestic dogs, and the fact that she blew Harvey Winestein for no reason. __________________ ProactiveMan!

03-12-2019, 07:03 PM	#27
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	__________________ DeviantART

02-20-2019, 08:56 PM	#25
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,054	Clearly Disney liked what Craig Gillespie did for someone who universally despised by the public in Neon's *I, Tonya* and want him to try to the same for an iconic villain like Cruella de Vil. Mostly everyone viewed Tonya Harding as a villain, but Gillespie wanted people to at least know that her life was very tough growing up and she might not have been as bad as we thought and show at least a little bit of sympathy for her. I never liked Harding as a person, but if that was what her early life was like then that's too bad. Cruella has always been a uniquely entertaining villain and it's going to be strange to try to make feel bad for her.

03-12-2019, 02:50 PM	#26
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,054	Nicole Kidman is reportedly being eyed to play a Baroness who is responsible for turning Cruella into the villainous character we all known her as. https://movieweb.com/cruella-movie-n...illain-disney/

03-12-2019, 07:58 PM	#29
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	This is Disney, she's probably a step mother __________________ DeviantART

03-12-2019, 09:54 PM	#30
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,772	Or a mentor, maybe? With a highly questionable sense of ethics? __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

05-07-2019, 12:15 PM	#31
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,054	Cruella wants to get her new movie done literally "if it takes till next Christmas". It's scheduled for release of December 23, 2020. Cruella Release Date and Details for Emma Stone Disney Film

05-14-2019, 08:34 PM	#32
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,054	Emma Thompson is actually in talks for the part that Nicole Kidman had been the front-runner for. Emma Thompson in talks to star in Emma Stone's Cruella movie

05-14-2019, 08:37 PM	#33
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08-07-2019, 04:00 PM	#34
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,054	Paul Walter Hauser (*BlackKkKlansman) and Joel Fry (Game of Thrones*) have joined the film as Horace and Jasper, respectively. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...ruella-1227660 https://variety.com/2019/film/news/d...ne-1203295464/

08-24-2019, 01:54 PM	#35
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,054	Here's the first official look. https://deadline.com/2019/08/cruella...ff-1202703533/ Earlier this month, Disney postponed the release till Memorial Day Weekend 2021 to avoid competition with Stephen Spielberg's remake of *West Side Story* . I also think that *Aladdin*'s having a stellar opening around that time might've played a part in that decision. Interestingly, that year also marks the 60th anniversary of the original animated movie as well as the 25th anniversary of the remake starring Glenn Close. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...pushed-1233375

09-04-2019, 06:21 PM	#36
Papenbrook The King of Nothing Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,755	I'm digging the punk-esque sweater vest. Otherwise, I'm not interested in viewing a film that'll try to sympathize with an animal abuser.

09-05-2019, 09:01 AM	#37
AT-Man I SEEN IT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: FIN Posts: 2,206	When do we get a movie about how Baroness turned evil? How about how the one who turned Baroness evil, was turned evil? Eventually we'll get to the root of all evil. But who turned them evil? __________________ Through the Golden Door

09-05-2019, 01:55 PM	#39
Utrommaniac Resident overthinker Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: what is going on.......... Posts: 5,318	Was I supposed to know Steven Spielberg was remaking West Side Story, or did I just find out about that on a thread about useless Disney villain backstory? __________________ DeviantART

09-11-2019, 08:41 PM	#40
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,054	Spoiler: Here are photos of Cruella before her evil transformation into the character we all know. https://thedisinsider.com/2019/09/02...ight-red-hair/ Also, Spoiler: Jasper and Horace are apparently up to no good. https://thedisinsider.com/2019/09/06...hotos-cruella/

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