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Old 10-17-2016, 07:34 AM   #1
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How would you like a modern anime remake of OT season 1 as a full movie?

After watching some DragonBall Super and Pokemon Generations, I really liked the animation style and I think they could use it to make an animated tmnt movie to rejuvinate public interest in the turtles, how do you think it would work out?

This would be a remaster of the OT pilot season with more focus on character development rather than supporting characters (bye bye, Neutrinos), actions scenes like 2k3, an overall story like that of the OTs first season with changes made such as having a deeper Splinter and Shredder rivalry, all old OT voice actors reprise where possible, have a modern recreation of the old soundtrack and a noticeably more action orinted and darker tone than the OT, while still being enough like the original to be identifiable.

Do you think this stand alone movie like this would rejuvinate public interest in the turtles as a property and remind us that there is far more to tmnt than onnoxious CGI monsters? Infact, tmnt started out as a comic and I feel that making it a 2D series once again would not only stick out as a property from the cluster of CGI/Live Action films so prevelant nowdays, but fit better with the source material, allowing for more more similar adaptions to versions such as Mirage, the 1990 film and 2k3 after a stand alone OT remake to potentially light a spark of a new tmnt era.

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Old 10-17-2016, 07:47 AM   #2
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I don't think neither the Dragon Ball Super or Pokémon Generations art style is fitting TMNT. but, I wouldn't mind a Japanese animation group do a remake crack at season 1 of the Fred Wolf series.
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:08 AM   #3
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An anime film of the OT would be extremely profitable in Japan, where nostalgia for that show runs high. Get a Japanese production team who grew up on the original to work on it, and a studio like toei or gainax, and you'd have an amazing anime film on your hands. And if an OT anime were released in japan, an American release of such a well known property would be sure to follow.
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No. No. No. Did I hit ten characters yet? No.
I will say, you turn tmnt over to a Japanese production team, give them creative fredom, along with access to all forms of turtle media for research, and you know whet you most likely to get for a movie? Maybe not the OT, but it will have:

-Orgin retelling
-Splinter as Yoshi
-Rocksteady and bebop
-Krang and the Technodrome
Yellow jumpsuit April

Don't think the Japanese will pander to nostalgia that much? Tell that to the sentai pirate team that turns into past sentai teams via keys, and the kamen rider who becomes past riders via cards. Oh, and how all gundam is now pandering to universal century/0079 fans now. If given tmnt for a movie,Japan will give us an OT remake, but probably a high quality one.
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I will say, you turn tmnt over to a Japanese production team, give them creative fredom, along with access to all forms of turtle media for research, and you know whet you most likely to get for a movie? Maybe not the OT, but it will have:

-Orgin retelling
-Splinter as Yoshi
-Rocksteady and bebop
-Krang and the Technodrome
Yellow jumpsuit April

Don't think the Japanese will pander to nostalgia that much? Tell that to the sentai pirate team that turns into past sentai teams via keys, and the kamen rider who becomes past riders via cards. Oh, and how all gundam is now pandering to universal century/0079 fans now. If given tmnt for a movie,Japan will give us an OT remake, but probably a high quality one.
I don't want OT ever again. I grew out of it the day I first found an issue of Image Comics' TMNT Volume 3. IDW is the way to go... pay homage, update, and do serious yet fun-filled stories.
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Old 10-17-2016, 11:53 AM   #7
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:18 PM   #8
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I don't want OT ever again. I grew out of it the day I first found an issue of Image Comics' TMNT Volume 3. IDW is the way to go... pay homage, update, and do serious yet fun-filled stories.
Yes, I do agree, IDW would be the ideal version to adapt characters and tone from. Have a flashback to feudal japan and Yoshi and his son's execution at the beginning, then reshuffle story and plot Ideas to bring Krang, rocksteady, and bebop into the first film. Change Oroku Saki's name to Sawaki, change Hamato to Hamada, throw in shredder calling krang a 'stupid octopus', take the blood and violence limitations off, and you've got the recipe for an amazing TMNT film there!
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:14 PM   #9
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Enough with the ****ing OT Turtles they are like an STD on the franchise you can't get rid of them. lets move on and stop trying to remake OT.
This. I love 'em but they need to stay in their era.

& if you wanna revisit the FW universe, do it in a new & smart way. Make a direct to DVD animated feature out of Turtles In Time for SNES.

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An anime film of the OT would be extremely profitable in Japan, where nostalgia for that show runs high. Get a Japanese production team who grew up on the original to work on it, and a studio like toei or gainax, and you'd have an amazing anime film on your hands. And if an OT anime were released in japan, an American release of such a well known property would be sure to follow.
Dafuc? No it wouldn't. Some folks there have nostalgia for it but it doesn't begin to compare to home-turf fans. Such a thing wouldn't be "extremely profitable" here where it's most popular, let alone overseas.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:27 PM   #10
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This. I love 'em but they need to stay in their era.

& if you wanna revisit the FW universe, do it in a new & smart way. Make a direct to DVD animated feature out of Turtles In Time for SNES.



Dafuc? No it wouldn't. Some folks there have nostalgia for it but it doesn't begin to compare to home-turf fans. Such a thing wouldn't be "extremely profitable" here where it's most popular, let alone overseas.
YES, yes it would. I wasn't just talking about TMNT with nostalgia, Japan has an aging population who are embracing nostalgia all across the board. All gundam is being molded to 0079 to please the original fans and pander to nostalgia, Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are embracing their pasts to reel older fans in, as well. When the 2003 TMNT series was released there, it barely lasted a year, with much poorer ratings. Any Nostalgia they tap into will be for the OT, which was HUGELY successful there back in the day. I didn't mean demand there would be larger than in the US, I meant what nostalgia and good feelings they have for tmnt would center on the OT. That's the part of TMNT thaty has any kind of recognition in Japan, but I agree it's very small recognition.

Also, the darker and gritter TMNT material has a problem in Japan; while the 'martial arts/cycle of vengeance' angle in TMNT is more unique in the U.S., such anime and manga are a dime a dozen in Japan. There are manga out there with the same basic premise with TMNT, but does the whole story and narrative better. They are martial arts mangas that are gritter and have more mature themes, there are martial arts anime and manga that are far more bloody and violent than turtles will ever be. why go for the TMNT when you have Lady Snowblood? More serious TMNT is unique over here, but in the land martial arts fiction was born, TMNT is a very tiny fish playing in a very big an overcrowded pond. And pure gritty TMNT would just come off as a poor American imitation trying to ape the classics.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:52 AM   #11
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YES, yes it would. I wasn't just talking about TMNT with nostalgia, Japan has an aging population who are embracing nostalgia all across the board. All gundam is being molded to 0079 to please the original fans and pander to nostalgia, Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are embracing their pasts to reel older fans in, as well. When the 2003 TMNT series was released there, it barely lasted a year, with much poorer ratings. Any Nostalgia they tap into will be for the OT, which was HUGELY successful there back in the day. I didn't mean demand there would be larger than in the US, I meant what nostalgia and good feelings they have for tmnt would center on the OT. That's the part of TMNT thaty has any kind of recognition in Japan, but I agree it's very small recognition.

Also, the darker and gritter TMNT material has a problem in Japan.
No, it wouldn't. Get your head outta the clouds. First of all, all big pop culture properties go through this cycle. When certain old demographics reach the point in their life where they're looking back on fonder days, they they become new demographics as that nostalgia is capitalized on. That is by no means a new or exclusive trend in Japanese media. Not sure what you're talking about with Gundams, they had a "please buy our model kits" cash-in show with Builders but it featured designs that span 30 years, & the new iterations have their own distinct looks. The others you mentioned are just doing the same thing TMNT & a host of other properties have done- mix the old & new to get fathers & sons simultaneously. But they're all beloved domestic franchises that have been successfully re-done many times over, of course it works.

TMNT was huge in Japan during Turtlemania, I'm not arguing that, but a resurgence would not have the same or similar impact, nor would it grant further lasting power. There's no way a western cartoon series is gonna get a modern 'anime' produced in Japan by a huge/prominent studio, let alone an independent one. Do you even know what the otaku market is like these days? Audiences there have become very finicky, & a significant chunk of anime viewers in the 2010's want cookie cutter "moe-blob" shows, which is to say cute girls doing cute things. While there are some action successes each year, a lot of their legacies end up as mere flavor of the month 12 episode manga adaptions that come & go without so much as a second season.

Japan isn't really on par with the USA when it comes to the consumption of foreign entertainment. It is an inclusive nation on many levels. Sure there are plenty of western films that get subtitled & released to welcoming excited crowds, but they're a novelty whose spectacle comes more from the higher budgets & quality CGI than it does a genuine appreciation of the source material. They don't get manga & anime made for them, at best they get a collector's toy from Good Smile Company & even then it's just for the most prominent of characters (like Batman & The Joker, for example) because there isn't enough love for the entire property to warrant the cost of producing more extensive lines.

4kids & the Nick series had strong starts & then immediately fell off. That's pretty telling of how the turtles are viewed in general there. They're a memory. Is it a fond enough memory to cash-in on in 2017 for the Japanese public? I doubt it. Sure, Viacom has made commendable efforts pushing the brand there, we've gotten some very cool items from overseas, the bay films had theatrical releases, even The Visual History book & (some) IDW comics were translated, but it's hardly booming.

& there you go once again trying to take subtle jabs at Mirage. Classic.
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The first season of the OT pretty much already is an anime movie. It was animated, pretty well, by Toei and it flows more or less end to end just fine. It was even released as a "movie" at least once, wasn't it?
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No, it wouldn't. Get your head outta the clouds. First of all, all big pop culture properties go through this cycle. When certain old demographics reach the point in their life where they're looking back on fonder days, they they become new demographics as that nostalgia is capitalized on. That is by no means a new or exclusive trend in Japanese media. Not sure what you're talking about with Gundams, they had a "please buy our model kits" cash-in show with Builders but it featured designs that span 30 years, & the new iterations have their own distinct looks. The others you mentioned are just doing the same thing TMNT & a host of other properties have done- mix the old & new to get fathers & sons simultaneously. But they're all beloved domestic franchises that have been successfully re-done many times over, of course it works.

TMNT was huge in Japan during Turtlemania, I'm not arguing that, but a resurgence would not have the same or similar impact, nor would it grant further lasting power. There's no way a western cartoon series is gonna get a modern 'anime' produced in Japan by a huge/prominent studio, let alone an independent one. Do you even know what the otaku market is like these days? Audiences there have become very finicky, & a significant chunk of anime viewers in the 2010's want cookie cutter "moe-blob" shows, which is to say cute girls doing cute things. While there are some action successes each year, a lot of their legacies end up as mere flavor of the month 12 episode manga adaptions that come & go without so much as a second season.

Japan isn't really on par with the USA when it comes to the consumption of foreign entertainment. It is an inclusive nation on many levels. Sure there are plenty of western films that get subtitled & released to welcoming excited crowds, but they're a novelty whose spectacle comes more from the higher budgets & quality CGI than it does a genuine appreciation of the source material. They don't get manga & anime made for them, at best they get a collector's toy from Good Smile Company & even then it's just for the most prominent of characters (like Batman & The Joker, for example) because there isn't enough love for the entire property to warrant the cost of producing more extensive lines.

4kids & the Nick series had strong starts & then immediately fell off. That's pretty telling of how the turtles are viewed in general there. They're a memory. Is it a fond enough memory to cash-in on in 2017 for the Japanese public? I doubt it. Sure, Viacom has made commendable efforts pushing the brand there, we've gotten some very cool items from overseas, the bay films had theatrical releases, even The Visual History book & (some) IDW comics were translated, but it's hardly booming.

& there you go once again trying to take subtle jabs at Mirage. Classic.
I didn't even mention mirage, I was referring to any future attempt to take a serious tmnt media over there; it would fail against domestic product. I do not, and have never, taken a pot shot at mirage. Just at certain sections of the fandom; and no I Don't take jabs at mirage fans, either. I like certain parts of volume one, and most of the image series, along with the usagi and savage Dragon crossovers. Drop this junk about me hating mirage, it's getting old.

My head is not in the clouds, you failed to notice where I said demand for any tmnt media in Japan is low, I was just pointing out if anyone remembers the Tmnt at all, it's usually the OT they remember, not 4kids or any other version. My point on gundam is during the 90's there was an attempt to keep things fresh with new material that paid homage to the original, but was it's own thing- gundam wing, g gundam, etc. But all I hear gundam fans complain about, both American and Japanese, is how they 'pander to U.C. fans now'. Same goes for laymen rider and sentai; decade and gokiager were anniversary seasons, but the fact the latter and their key gimmick keep popping up in team up movies is annoying both U.S. and Japanese fans. My point on that was with a shrinking market of kids in Japan thanks to a low birthrate, toy and anime companies are catering more to nostalgia there than they used to.

And again, I never said there was any demand for or nostalgia for tmnt in Japan, I was speaking strictly on what version they are going to remember if asked about it (though there might be a few that remember the film's.) So if say gainax or toei were handed the Tmnt for a Movie or OAV series, and given complete creative freedom, along with translated research materials on tmnt history, we'd still get a version with Krang, Shredder,Rocksteady, bebop, and the technodrome.

I've had it with this nonsense. I don't freaking hate mirage, I actually like parts of it. I recognise the OT is goofy and dumb, and I view IDW as my perfect blend of tmnt. This getting old, leave me alone.

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Old 10-17-2016, 12:48 PM   #14
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