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Old 01-07-2020, 11:26 PM   #21
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:34 PM   #22
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Missiles launched from Iran itself INTO Iraq, apparently. But I guess at bases/installations where no one was there or hurt? Eugh. Oh the one hand it seems like just enough of a careful ploy to satisfy "See? We did something to retaliate!" while not actually doing enough (as in actually killing Americans) as to illicit more from us. As in a declaration of war. No, I suspect this is where it ends, maybe with some sanctions/general uneasiness for a while, but it depends on how we want to humor this attack. Maybe some mild return fire.
I didn't think that they had confirmation of causality or primary targeting yet, but I haven't turned on the news in about two hours or so.

I think the whole "Iran Saves Face" scenario is plausible and likely, but I wasn't going to speculate anything about that until we knew more details. They'd be crazy to overtly kill an American citizen on retaliation when they don't have a rogue general to hide behind doing it for them. And they'd be crazier to kill a single homeland citizen, but again we will get into that later when more details come out.
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Old 01-08-2020, 10:40 AM   #23
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Seems to be exactly the case:

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-...020/index.html

"Iran appears to be standing down"

"Trump's Iran comments suggests there won't be a military response"
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Old 01-08-2020, 11:46 AM   #24
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Seems to be exactly the case:

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-...020/index.html

"Iran appears to be standing down"

"Trump's Iran comments suggests there won't be a military response"
This is rational and good. Iranian leadership is saying though that their "response" was not enough. But I'd guess that's more showmanship on their part.
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:49 PM   #25
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A direct attack on United States military bases and the only response is a sigh of relief from the White House? Weakness incarnate.

The previous administration hunted down and assassinated terrorists. This one cowers at their reprisals. The United States has never looked weaker. Let's get a real man in there to show the world how it's done.

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Old 01-08-2020, 07:57 PM   #26
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They attacked our embassy so we took out their #2 guy and we still didn't get dragged into a war. Seems like win win to me.
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:27 PM   #27
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I'm just having fun at your expense. It occurred to me during the last admin that anything can be spun into an abject failure. Now I do it just to see how frustrated people get when "Obama=always bad" is changed to "Trump=always bad".

In that spirit, this is a definite and total loss on the part of the United States. We've been attacked by an enemy and our president has given absolutely no comfort in his response. Now the world knows we are afraid of going to war, and they'll most likely use it to their advantage.

Thanks, Obam-I mean Trump.
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They attacked our embassy so we took out their #2 guy and we still didn't get dragged into a war. Seems like win win to me.
Pretty much this.

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I'm just having fun at your expense. It occurred to me during the last admin that anything can be spun into an abject failure. Now I do it just to see how frustrated people get when "Obama=always bad" is changed to "Trump=always bad".

In that spirit, this is a definite and total loss on the part of the United States. We've been attacked by an enemy and our president has given absolutely no comfort in his response. Now the world knows we are afraid of going to war, and they'll most likely use it to their advantage.

Thanks, Obam-I mean Trump.
The thread locking forum moderator is admitting above that he's poking the bear. Oh the irony.

But I'm not mad at him about it. It was just too easy a thing to point out that the thread locking forum moderator is admitting above that he's poking the bear.




All kidding aside though, I am relieved that we got that bastard general and if things had to play out beyond that, then this is fine. Now I just hope that integrity everywhere prevails and it's truly the end of it. But I won't say I trust the Iranian government or culture to have it be the end.
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