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09-20-2016, 10:36 AM | #102 |
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Nice cover art.
Wonder if the story started in the first issue carries into the second one, or if we've been shown art samples from multiple issues? (Spider-Man getting swarmed by Mole-Man's followers was an early sample Stegman released online.) Edit: Wow, Conway and Stegman were right about redesigning supervillains. Mole-Man now looks like he's been mutated with animal DNA. Wonder if this is meant to be explained in-story as something that happened to him after the divergence point between 616 and RYV, or if he "always" looked like this in the RYV universe. |
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09-20-2016, 01:53 PM | #104 |
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Would pre-OMD stuff also fall under the broad strokes rule? I know that the interview made it sound like all those back-issues are in RYV's continuity, but stuff like the Civil War unmasking don't seemed to have happened in this series (based on the fact that Peter is still selling Spider-Man photos to the Bugle and the Parkers aren't on the run from the law), not to mention that some of us think that the earlier series indicated Annie was born during the '90s comics era, which would significantly change the storylines, if that's correct.
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09-20-2016, 03:24 PM | #106 | |
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I don't know that I'd consider post-1999 era as horrible- JMS started his run on ASM directly after the 1999 "Disassembled" arc, that basically tore apart the Avengers (Thanks Wanda!) and subjected Spidey to the "Queen" and his transformation into the "Man-Spider" monster that was so similar to the S-M: TAS story arc. I'd consider everything from then until OMD as one of the BEST eras. I still think that Aunt May defeating him with sedatives in a batch of cookies when he tried to infiltrate Avengers Tower disguised as Peter was the best Chameleon story I've ever read. Guess she knows her nephew better than he thought!! (And he NEVER saw it coming....)
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09-20-2016, 04:39 PM | #107 |
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Has Spider-Man ever faced The Mole-Man? Mole-Man is a character I have never read so it will be a character study and fresh for me no matter if it is a variation of the villianous character.
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(Note: I'm pretty sure that Annie was born pre-Clone Saga in the original RYV story, and if that is an altered timeline of this series, like Conway suggested, then I have a hard time understanding how Annie's birthdate would be changed to be post-OMD timeframe. Meaning that Peter and MJ spent most of the 616 years as parents, instead of a childless couple, which would lead to a lot of differences snowballing.) |
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I don't see how it is in any way "complicated". It's a simple matter of keeping everyone in character while keeping a much simpler solution intact, and the eight year gap in between BND and what we have now means you can plug the gaps any way you want, and future issues will inform any other gaps if it suits the story, and they're not going to worry about that as the interviews suggest.
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I didn't mean every story post-1999 was terrible, just those first two years with Mackie and Byrne. Jenkins was good, JMS was excellent, Bendis was on fire, Spider-Girl was great. People trash Quesada all the time but his run as EIC saw some of the best Spider-Man and X-Men books on the market. Makes one wonder if he had just kept his preferences out of the books, Marvel would still be going strong today instead of having their butts kicked by DC New rough draft from Stegman Spoiler:
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Indeed, and if you're right, I'll concede. A part of me really just wants this to have everything in canon prior to the change intact. Everything else event-wise can be different, but just make JMS and all the 2000 era work count for something again.
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09-21-2016, 02:35 PM | #112 |
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Fair enough. Personally, I don't have any objections to the pre-OMD 616 stuff being ported over as is. I do want the RYV series to have Spider-Man's secret identity intact. Your scenario (where an alternate version of the mind erase) is perfectly fine (even if its not what I'd done). Being a Ultimate fan primarily, I guess I don't have the same kind of attachment to the old comics, and so am not as invested in them being followed as closely.
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09-21-2016, 07:52 PM | #114 | |
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Is there anything post-OMD that you'd like to see stick around or RYV do its own spin on? |
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I also would like to know how RYV Peter got involved in the Spider-Verse saga, since he made a cameo appearance in one of the short stories prior to the original RYV series being published. He obviously held his own and survived, but coming into contact with Morlun or the Inheritors intrigues me.
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I have the original RYV trade paperback, which has that short story. They don't exactly say that Harry is still alive in the RYV world; the Spider-Men just confirm that they both had Harry as best friend. So, I don't think Harry needs to be alive. |
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New interview with Conway and Stegman
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http://marvel.com/news/comics/26752/...#ixzz4L1E6TS23 Peter and MJ have been together a decade here. I'm assuming with the potential for crossovers, that the RYV Peter or Annie will cross over with 616/Earth Prime next June in a story celebrating the marriage's 30th anniversary
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Also, if the ten years figure is accurate, the Parkers got married when they did in 616, and Annie is indeed eight, would that suggest that she was born pre-OMD, or am I mixing things up? Why would Marvel want to celebrate it, given that they've been trying to push it under the rug for years (as far as 616 goes, at any rate)? It seems like anything that treats it (or the characters as a couple of any kind) kindly these days are specific writers acting on their own violation. Last edited by WebLurker; 09-23-2016 at 12:43 AM. |
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