The Technodrome Forums

Go Back   The Technodrome Forums > TMNT Universes > TMNT Movie Discussion

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-12-2011, 11:36 AM   #21
discordiatookie
facehugger
 
discordiatookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Posts: 2,817
Guess I should really read the credits, huh? Thanks for that, I feel honoured

There was a coupla times I actually laughed out loud, reading this. Especially the last pic, and final line.
__________________
Oh Discordia! Charyou Tree! Come, Reap!
Don't tell us to grow up and out of it
I got my cloak and dagger in a bar room brawl

You actually trying to read this tiny text? Damn, you're dedicated! This is all just for effect you know...

original TMNT art collection
discordiatookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2011, 11:13 PM   #22
d_osborn
Mad Scientist
 
d_osborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,079
cool article!

there are a few bits on laird's 'blast from the past' blog about the steve barron project. he mentions fx tests on splinter in one post... something about character maquettes in another. it was actually going to be a mini-series to air on the hallmark channel. strange, i know. by that point, barron had directed several mini-series projects for hallmark.
d_osborn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2011, 11:35 PM   #23
Jester
Rat-faced Dude-guy
 
Jester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 25,140
Quote:
Originally Posted by d_osborn View Post
cool article!

there are a few bits on laird's 'blast from the past' blog about the steve barron project. he mentions fx tests on splinter in one post... something about character maquettes in another. it was actually going to be a mini-series to air on the hallmark channel. strange, i know. by that point, barron had directed several mini-series projects for hallmark.
Was the 4th flick and the Hallmark miniseries the same thing?
__________________

"Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656
Jester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 04:22 AM   #24
Galactus
Mad Scientist
 
Galactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,828
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester View Post
Was the 4th flick and the Hallmark miniseries the same thing?
I've not gotten that impression. From I've read it always seemed like seperate projects.

I've always assumed that the pitch with the turtles and Splinter gaining powers was completely seperate from the one with Kirby the fifth turtle also.

The latter which was supposed to be a loose adaption of Donatello #1 swapping a Jack Kirby inspired world for a dark gothic world one with Julie Strain playing an evil empress but dissatisfied with what the studio was providing them Peter wrote a 20 page treatment but it still didn't steer them in what he and Kevin felt was the right direction.

It stands to reason all these be seperate. I mean it all seems to be too much to pack in to one movie especialy when you add in Venus and a fight with Shredder on the Astral Plane (from the Hallmark project).
Galactus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 06:06 AM   #25
Chris
Mad Scientist
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
The latter which was supposed to be a loose adaption of Donatello #1 swapping a Jack Kirby inspired world for a dark gothic world one with Julie Strain playing an evil empress but dissatisfied with what the studio was providing them Peter wrote a 20 page treatment but it still didn't steer them in what he and Kevin felt was the right direction.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
especialy when you add in Venus and a fight with Shredder on the Astral Plane (from the Hallmark project).
How have I never heard of all this?!

Evil Empresses?
Venus/Shredder/Astral Plane in the Hallmark project?

Somehow I missed all this!! Do you have any more details?
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 06:41 AM   #26
Galactus
Mad Scientist
 
Galactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,828
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris View Post
How have I never heard of all this?!

Evil Empresses?
Venus/Shredder/Astral Plane in the Hallmark project?

Somehow I missed all this!! Do you have any more details?
Peter put a design for something he called the Shreddant on his blog. Link

There's also another piece of Laird art that I've seen around with the turtles searching some ruins with the Shreddant looming in the background but I think that's just something he did for fun rather than something to do with the mini series.

The rest I'd say is pretty common knowledge, particularly a movie with Venus. If I remember correctly Andrew Modeen had a lot of stuff about it on his old TMNTEmpire site. Interviews, news articles, quotes from Dan Berger etc. I think this link will work.
Galactus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 12:16 PM   #27
oldmanwinters
Overlord
 
oldmanwinters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow!
Posts: 10,982
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
The rest I'd say is pretty common knowledge, particularly a movie with Venus. If I remember correctly Andrew Modeen had a lot of stuff about it on his old TMNTEmpire site. Interviews, news articles, quotes from Dan Berger etc. I think this link will work.
Hey, it's been a long time since I've seen that! Thanks for the link!
__________________

Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries!
Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"!
View my sketch work!
I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!
oldmanwinters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 03:43 PM   #28
Donnie
Something from the Past
 
Donnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 3,105
I'm among those who have never seen this, so it's news to me!

I really like the next mutations story line...it was a cool idea. I like Don's mutation. Leo's is pretty badass. Mikey's is okay. Raphael meets Wolverine, anyone? The only mutation that is a little off-setting for me is Splinter's. He looks too...big.
__________________


After the silver-tongued spirit Pan escaped from Rancientia to Earth, possessed a British officer, and sparked the American Revolution, spirit warriors Blaken, Marston, Rowen, and Seddus took long-tailed weasels as hosts and developed extraordinary powers to counter Pan and his apocalyptic vision for Earth.

spiritguildseries.com
https://www.comixcentral.com/products/spirit-guild-1/
Donnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 04:23 PM   #29
Chris
Mad Scientist
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
Peter put a design for something he called the Shreddant on his blog. Link

There's also another piece of Laird art that I've seen around with the turtles searching some ruins with the Shreddant looming in the background but I think that's just something he did for fun rather than something to do with the mini series.
Thanks for the link, I've never seen that before. I miss read your earlier post and thought Venus was rumoured to be in the Hallmark Project, that's what really threw me as I know how much Laird hates her.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
The rest I'd say is pretty common knowledge, particularly a movie with Venus. If I remember correctly Andrew Modeen had a lot of stuff about it on his old TMNTEmpire site. Interviews, news articles, quotes from Dan Berger etc. I think this link will work.
Thanks for the link! Sounds like there were a lot of possible plots for TMNT 4!

The Next Mutation - with the new designs/powers from Peter Laird's blog

Kirby/Alternate Dimension - with Julie Strain as an Evil Empress (though this may be the same as the next mutation project?)

The Next Mutation Sequel - combining plot elements from RTNY/CAW and Venus

Then more rewrites taking Venus out... then the Hallmark Project (Shreddant/Astral Plane)... the finally TMNT.

I enjoyed TMNT, but I think the original Next Mutation project sounds the best (especially if they wanted to draw the plot from RTNY/CAW)
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 05:15 PM   #30
Jester
Rat-faced Dude-guy
 
Jester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 25,140
Never seen this either...wow. Hey, Doc, looks like another ammendment is in the works.

EDIT: One wonders if Kevin or Pete still have these earily drafts...I'd love to see them.
__________________

"Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

Last edited by Jester; 03-13-2011 at 05:26 PM.
Jester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 05:52 PM   #31
oldmanwinters
Overlord
 
oldmanwinters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow!
Posts: 10,982
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris View Post

Kirby/Alternate Dimension - with Julie Strain as an Evil Empress (though this may be the same as the next mutation project?)
In Eastman's Artobiography, it is suggested that this was a planned character for the Next Mutation TV show. I guess after the show was canceled there could have been a push to implement leftover ideas into a film:
__________________

Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries!
Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"!
View my sketch work!
I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!
oldmanwinters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 05:57 PM   #32
Jester
Rat-faced Dude-guy
 
Jester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 25,140
That would have been odd, considering what appears on her IMDB...yikes!
__________________

"Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656
Jester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 06:27 PM   #33
d_osborn
Mad Scientist
 
d_osborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,079
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
If I remember correctly Andrew Modeen had a lot of stuff about it on his old TMNTEmpire site. Interviews, news articles, quotes from Dan Berger etc. I think this link will work.
interesting... thanks for the link! i'm really shocked that none of the scripts have ever leaked online.

i'm curious if steve barron would have approached the mini-series as an extension of his TMNT film.
d_osborn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 07:51 PM   #34
Jephael
That whack job behind you
 
Jephael's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania
Posts: 7,898
I finally decided to take a look at your article, Dr.Spengler and it's really good. All that information is really intriging.
__________________
"I like it. Simple, but effective!"
Raphael; The Mean Machines



YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/Jephael
Facebook: www.facebook.com/jephael
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeOughton

Sadly I no longer frequent this community, but please give it a shot. You never know who you might connect with. I will forever cherish the fond memories I have of the fandom as it was in its heyday. Peace and love to you all - Later, dudes!!!
Jephael is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 07:54 PM   #35
John Pannozzi
Stone Warrior
 
John Pannozzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 736
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester View Post
That would have been odd, considering what appears on her IMDB...yikes!
It was pretty much nepotism... she was married to Eastman at the time (not to put anyone down, though).

But I remember that back around 1999 or so, there's was this page with a lot of info on the planned fourth movie. I remember it mentioning a villainess (Julie's character?), that April's absence from the Next Mutation was due in part to Eastman no longer being in a relationship with her namesake, and the controversy over whether not Leo decapitating Shredder would make it into the flick. Does anyone else remember this webpage?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Santo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergerjacques
It was definitely not a kid's book.
That was the thing that always mystified me about the turn the franchise took when Eastman and Laird licensed the cartoon and the parallel comic book published by the same outfit that gave us Archie. The turtles' original origin story? The whole thing hinges on a for-Christ's-sake rape-murder!!!!
from here.
John Pannozzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 08:39 PM   #36
Donnie
Something from the Past
 
Donnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 3,105
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Pannozzi View Post
and the controversy over whether not Leo decapitating Shredder would make it into the flick. Does anyone else remember this webpage?
No, but if anybody finds it, PLEASE SHARE! I've never heard anything about Leo decapitating Shredder, but I would certainly love to!
__________________


After the silver-tongued spirit Pan escaped from Rancientia to Earth, possessed a British officer, and sparked the American Revolution, spirit warriors Blaken, Marston, Rowen, and Seddus took long-tailed weasels as hosts and developed extraordinary powers to counter Pan and his apocalyptic vision for Earth.

spiritguildseries.com
https://www.comixcentral.com/products/spirit-guild-1/
Donnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2011, 10:33 PM   #37
CyberCubed
Overlord
 
CyberCubed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 34,024
I also remember the 4th movie was going to be re-tooled to include Venus after Next Mutation hit.
CyberCubed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 03:56 PM   #38
Chris
Mad Scientist
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 1,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldmanwinters View Post
In Eastman's Artobiography, it is suggested that this was a planned character for the Next Mutation TV show. I guess after the show was canceled there could have been a push to implement leftover ideas into a film:
Thanks for the picture. That would have been interesting to see. As bad as it was I actually wish TNM could have got a second season so we could have seen this on the show, the return of Shredder and the defeat of Dragon Lord, which was all left unresolved.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 04:55 PM   #39
PizzaPower
Foot Elite
 
PizzaPower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NC
Posts: 3,143
i agree i really wish there was a 2nd season to the next mutation, it is one of my favorite tmnt shows.
PizzaPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 05:17 PM   #40
Andrew NDB
Weed Whacker
 
Andrew NDB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 13,818
Some info from my site years and years ago here:
http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/tmnt/nt4.html
Andrew NDB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
live action films, tmnt entity

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.