Official Discussion Topic: S5 E10 - Lone Rat and Cubs - Page 2

matteso586 · 08-13-2017, 12:43 PM

It's about time we learn how Raph got that crack on his shell.

Without the multi colored masks, it's hard to tell which baby Turtle is which.

It appears that some of the Kraang's technology doesn't work well underground.

*Ninjinister* · 08-13-2017, 12:44 PM

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Love this episode. This episode proves to me that Hoon Lee is the best iteration of Splinter in my opinion.

Agreed. I also have felt since episode 1 that he gives the strongest performance in the series.

*Autbot_Benz* · 08-13-2017, 12:55 PM

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Agreed. I also have felt since episode 1 that he gives the strongest performance in the series.

glad to hear that. I even tweeted that I thought his splinter was the best out of all the other splinters to him a few months back and he said it was very much appreciated.

*GoldMutant* · 08-13-2017, 12:55 PM

Man, with listening to a clip of the younger Turtles, it does feel weird with Seth Green being there instead of Jason Briggs. I know the vocal change was explained in season 3, but for young Leo, it feels weird to me despite being used to his voice now.

Reviewing this soon.

*newfan* · 08-13-2017, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Man, with listening to a clip of the younger Turtles, it does feel weird with Seth Green being there instead of Jason Briggs. I know the vocal change was explained in season 3, but for young Leo, it feels weird to me despite being used to his voice now.

Reviewing this soon.

They can't really ditch Green and ask Biggs back for the episode though.

*Vicky82* · 08-13-2017, 01:04 PM

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Without the multi colored masks, it's hard to tell which baby Turtle is which.

At first it was confusing but the way I figured it out, got easy for me.

Mikey and Donnie are both light green, Mikey has the freckles and Donnie has a different shaped head.

Leo and Raph was a bit harder, they are darker but Raph is more darker than Leo and he has the evil face look sometimes. Then Raph had the chip in the plastron and it got more easy to tell them apart.

This is the only bit that I couldn't tell them apart

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Man, with listening to a clip of the younger Turtles, it does feel weird with Seth Green being there instead of Jason Briggs. I know the vocal change was explained in season 3, but for young Leo, it feels weird to me despite being used to his voice now.

Reviewing this soon.

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They can't really ditch Green and ask Biggs back for the episode though.

Last year Dominic (2nd Leo voice) did tweet he was voicing Leo again, so I though it was for this episode but it was Seth Green that voiced Leo.

*GoldMutant* · 08-13-2017, 01:07 PM

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They can't really ditch Green and ask Biggs back for the episode though.

I get that.

I know that in Darkest Plight, they redubbed some of Jason's lines with Seth. That I can understand from a story perspective. This time though, it feels... off. Young Leo feels like he's hit puberty too soon.

However, for this episode, it feels more noticeable. Obviously bringing in Jason here would be possible confusion for younger fans, but for here when the Turtles are children, it's especially weird at least to me.

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Last year Dominic (2nd Leo voice) did tweet he was voicing Leo again, so I though it was for this episode but it was Seth Green that voiced Leo.

That's something I don't get. Dominic Catrambone was getting better as Leo after filling in. He's not my favorite Leo (that would be Brian Tochi), but if he continued, I still feel his voice could've justified being deepened with the voice box damage.

I got nothing against Seth Green at all. I've gotten used to him, but for this episode, he feels a bit out of place with sounding younger. Not to the same extent as the 2k3 Turtles team, but a bit jarring for my tastes.

*CyberCubed* · 08-13-2017, 01:20 PM

Man, Nick's Splinter really is one of the best incarnations of Splinter ever. I'm really going to miss this Splinter the most when this show ends, (and technically I miss him now because he's dead and this is probably his last episode).

Really great episode, feels like it was a Season 1 episode. In fact this probably should have been a Season 1 episode...instead of being made now at literally the end of the show.

I guess better late than never.

I'm glad we finally know how the Turtles got their names and weapons, something not revealed before in this series. I almost kind of wish they made a sequel episode featuring the Turtle toddlers with their weapons, but oh well, the show is over. Great ep.

*newfan* · 08-13-2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

I get that.

I know that in Darkest Plight, they redubbed some of Jason's lines with Seth. That I can understand from a story perspective. This time though, it feels... off. Young Leo feels like he's hit puberty too soon.

However, for this episode, it feels more noticeable. Obviously bringing in Jason here would be possible confusion for younger fans, but for here when the Turtles are children, it's especially weird at least to me.

That's something I don't get. Dominic Catrambone was getting better as Leo after filling in. He's not my favorite Leo (that would be Brian Tochi), but if he continued, I still feel his voice could've justified being deepened with the voice box damage.

I got nothing against Seth Green at all. I've gotten used to him, but for this episode, he feels a bit out of place with sounding younger. Not to the same extent as the 2k3 Turtles team, but a bit jarring for my tastes.

I didn't notice as much difference with Dominic where as Green was very different (also sounds less like a teen), but I like him as Leo.

Biggs will always be the American pie guy to me

*Fang Wolf* · 08-13-2017, 02:13 PM

For me was this episode the best of this season for now.
Baby turtles is sooo cute....

*victory_angel* · 08-13-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

At first it was confusing but the way I figured it out, got easy for me.

Mikey and Donnie are both light green, Mikey has the freckles and Donnie has a different shaped head.

Leo and Raph was a bit harder, they are darker but Raph is more darker than Leo and he has the evil face look sometimes. Then Raph had the chip in the plastron and it got more easy to tell them apart.

This is the only bit that I couldn't tell them apart

https://68.media.tumblr.com/efc5b62b...9c31o2_540.gif

My speculation from right to left...Mikey would be the one that Splinter tucks in since we hear Greg Cipes make the yawning noise and Mikey is also the most affectionate of the turtles so having him cuddle against the Turtle next to him is something Mikey would have done.

Raph is the one loudly snoring, because his complexion is darker then Mikey's. And loud is one of the words is used to describe Raph.

The other two are harder to tell apart. All we know is one is showing some discomfort when he's being pushed into his to his other sleeping brother. And the other one is just sleeping peacefully with his mouth hanging open.

I at first thought the one with his mouth hanging open was Donnie since at first glance the head is a similar shape. But he has a darker complexion compared to the one showing discomfort.

But on closer look, Donnie is the one showing discomfort at being sort of pressed into Leo, and Leo is the one just peacefully sleeping with his mouth open.

*ToTheNines* · 08-13-2017, 02:25 PM

Such a good episode! I totally teared up when Splinter had the vision of Shen and Miwa, afraid he didn't deserve a second chance to be a father. Also when he gave Leo the sword, since that's what he flashed back to when Splinter died.

Pretty egregious of Nickelodeon to not air this one on Father's Day like they originally planned. But probably for the best, since I would have been ugly crying lol.

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it was pretty Awesome seeing Kevin Eastman on the writing credits.

Agreed!

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Man, with listening to a clip of the younger Turtles, it does feel weird with Seth Green being there instead of Jason Briggs. I know the vocal change was explained in season 3, but for young Leo, it feels weird to me despite being used to his voice now.

Reviewing this soon.

That's my one nitpick too. I figured they'd use Catrambone, but I guess he's just doing an additional voice in another episode.

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Really great episode, feels like it was a Season 1 episode. In fact this probably should have been a Season 1 episode...instead of being made now at literally the end of the show.

I don't see what's so funny, but you're totally wrong. First of all, the episode is especially poignant because Splinter is dead. Secondly, the Shen/Miwa vision wouldn't have been as effective coming before "Tale of the Yokai".

Redworld96 · 08-13-2017, 02:28 PM

Vicky and Victory

You're welcome

*Vicky82* · 08-13-2017, 02:31 PM

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Vicky and Victory

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You're welcome

Thanks

It's so cute seeing Mikey cuddle up to Raph. I love there moments together.

*CyberCubed* · 08-13-2017, 02:59 PM

Also when toddler Don was talking, he sounded just like the kid version of Raphael in the two original cartoon episodes. Not a surprise since Rob Paulsen used the same type of high-pitched light voice.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 08-13-2017, 04:03 PM

Great to have a Splinter-focused episode.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-13-2017, 04:58 PM

I loved this episode to death. The baby Turtles were so cute and I think the voice actors did a great job sounding younger and pulled it off too. I always felt like the 2k3 actors were sort of forced when trying to sound younger, but the Nick cast nailed it for me. I loved how the Turtles each handled their weapons as a baby and the origin of Raph's crack in his shell. The flashback to Yoshi as his human self and of Shen and Miwa was also a nice touch to how Splinter doubts himself as a father. Loved how they got their home and their weapons at the end. Definitely one of my favorite episodes of the season and a great last appearance for Splinter.

TheJ-manTurtleMan · 08-13-2017, 07:52 PM

Alright, I have to eat crow about what I've been saying about the baby turtles, that they are creepy looking. They were actually pretty darn adorable in the episode!

Did any one else watch "Rise of the Turtles" right after watching this?

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 08-13-2017, 08:35 PM

Man, I don't know where to start. This episode was PERFECT. It made my day, until the new tmnt summer short came in and ruined it.

It was the perfect send off to Master Splinter and wraps up his entire story from the very 1st episode flawlessly.

The baby turtles were very cute and the story was fascinating.

I think having Splinter stay in a Water tower and then an abandoned house before moving into the sewers was a genius idea, especially considering that he was a human not too long ago and no human would think first of living in the sewers.

What really made it work was seeing the bond between Splinter and the turtles develop and flow very naturally, you do feel that they are a family.

10/10, I would put this in my top 5 favourite episodes of this show.

And by the way, I can't believe we're already half way through the season. If this was the final episode, I would've been satisfied but seeing as how much I liked the first half of season 5, I have VERY high hopes for the second half.

*CyberCubed* · 08-13-2017, 11:30 PM

The water tower is also from City at War in Mirage, (and also the 4kids version of it), where the Turtles stayed for a while when they were hiding from the Foot, it's nice to see another Mirage reference there.

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GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	Man, with listening to a clip of the younger Turtles, it does feel weird with Seth Green being there instead of Jason Briggs. I know the vocal change was explained in season 3, but for young Leo, it feels weird to me despite being used to his voice now. Reviewing this soon. __________________

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08-13-2017, 04:03 PM	#36
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,155	Splinter Great to have a Splinter-focused episode.

08-13-2017, 04:58 PM	#37
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I loved this episode to death. The baby Turtles were so cute and I think the voice actors did a great job sounding younger and pulled it off too. I always felt like the 2k3 actors were sort of forced when trying to sound younger, but the Nick cast nailed it for me. I loved how the Turtles each handled their weapons as a baby and the origin of Raph's crack in his shell. The flashback to Yoshi as his human self and of Shen and Miwa was also a nice touch to how Splinter doubts himself as a father. Loved how they got their home and their weapons at the end. Definitely one of my favorite episodes of the season and a great last appearance for Splinter. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-13-2017, 07:52 PM	#38
TheJ-manTurtleMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southern California Posts: 646	Alright, I have to eat crow about what I've been saying about the baby turtles, that they are creepy looking. They were actually pretty darn adorable in the episode! Did any one else watch "Rise of the Turtles" right after watching this? __________________ Hey Man! It's The J-Man! "I love a little hot sauce on my pizza! I love a little hot sauce yes I dooo!"

08-13-2017, 12:43 PM	#21
matteso586 Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 712	It's about time we learn how Raph got that crack on his shell. Without the multi colored masks, it's hard to tell which baby Turtle is which. It appears that some of the Kraang's technology doesn't work well underground.

08-13-2017, 01:20 PM	#28
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,033	Man, Nick's Splinter really is one of the best incarnations of Splinter ever. I'm really going to miss this Splinter the most when this show ends, (and technically I miss him now because he's dead and this is probably his last episode). Really great episode, feels like it was a Season 1 episode. In fact this probably should have been a Season 1 episode...instead of being made now at literally the end of the show. I guess better late than never. I'm glad we finally know how the Turtles got their names and weapons, something not revealed before in this series. I almost kind of wish they made a sequel episode featuring the Turtle toddlers with their weapons, but oh well, the show is over. Great ep.

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Redworld96 Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 639	Vicky and Victory You're welcome

08-13-2017, 02:59 PM	#35
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,033	Also when toddler Don was talking, he sounded just like the kid version of Raphael in the two original cartoon episodes. Not a surprise since Rob Paulsen used the same type of high-pitched light voice.

08-13-2017, 08:35 PM	#39
FredWolfLeonardo Big Blue Boy Scout Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Bark Town Posts: 4,474	Man, I don't know where to start. This episode was PERFECT. It made my day, until the new tmnt summer short came in and ruined it. It was the perfect send off to Master Splinter and wraps up his entire story from the very 1st episode flawlessly. The baby turtles were very cute and the story was fascinating. I think having Splinter stay in a Water tower and then an abandoned house before moving into the sewers was a genius idea, especially considering that he was a human not too long ago and no human would think first of living in the sewers. What really made it work was seeing the bond between Splinter and the turtles develop and flow very naturally, you do feel that they are a family. 10/10, I would put this in my top 5 favourite episodes of this show. And by the way, I can't believe we're already half way through the season. If this was the final episode, I would've been satisfied but seeing as how much I liked the first half of season 5, I have VERY high hopes for the second half. Last edited by FredWolfLeonardo; 08-13-2017 at 08:42 PM.

08-13-2017, 11:30 PM	#40
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,033	The water tower is also from City at War in Mirage, (and also the 4kids version of it), where the Turtles stayed for a while when they were hiding from the Foot, it's nice to see another Mirage reference there.