Favourite Next Mutation Villain?

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 03-08-2017, 12:22 PM

Well I know Next Mutation is far from the best version of TMNT. But, one thing it did have going for it is some creative villains. Personally, I like Dragon Lord. He looked cool, and a mystical dragon is a neat idea that fits well.And, he had some fun lines.

Also, bonus points to Vam Mi for being rather pleasant to look at, and because the TMNT don't go up against Vampires often enough.

*Candy Kappa* · 03-08-2017, 12:43 PM

The villains in NM do have god concepts: Dragon Lord, Vam Mi, Bonesteel and Silver could be great characters given more growth and care.

I think I like Silver the best of them, a yeti in a suit running mafia operations is a fantastic idea. Just ditch the affinity for bananas and the monkey jokes shtick.

Second would be Vam Mi. She adds a interesting flair of supernatural element being a vampire, and if she's ever used again I hope they incorporate more elements on her being a Chinese vampire which are very different then European vampires, that would have been really cool.

*turtlefanforever* · 03-09-2017, 04:58 AM

C'mon man. Don't make a poll if you don't know the characters! It's Silver. I woulda voted for him. But not a proper poll.

TNM has tons of great villians. Wish we got that 2nd season.

*snake* · 03-09-2017, 05:01 AM

Silver for sure. He has a badass design.

*GoldMutant* · 03-09-2017, 06:24 AM

Silver, Vam Mi, and Bonesteel in that order.

Dragon Lord I honestly don't like his design. I certainly need to rewatch the show to judge his character though. Same with Quease.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 03-09-2017, 08:22 AM

Dragon lord. This guys NEEDS to be brought back, possibly incorporating elements of his earlier image incarnation.

*Autbot_Benz* · 03-09-2017, 10:42 AM

Saban is my favorite TNM Villain because he made a Mockery of TMNT trying to make it with stupid sound effects forced female turtle and tried the Power Rangers formula and it didn't work.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 03-11-2017, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

C'mon man. Don't make a poll if you don't know the characters! It's Silver. I woulda voted for him. But not a proper poll.

TNM has tons of great villians. Wish we got that 2nd season.

Well, it's been about 20 years since I've seen the show, and I made this thread in kind of a hurry. But, yeah I probably should have looked that up.

Still if you want to discuss Silver or the other "tons of great villains", this is a good place to do it. Which one would you like to see developed more?

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Dragon lord. This guys NEEDS to be brought back, possibly incorporating elements of his earlier image incarnation.

Yeah, it is kinda crazy that Image also had a Dragon Lord villain despite the two series keeping such a distance from each other and being so different tone-wise. Anybody know which one came first?

*sdp* · 03-11-2017, 09:12 AM

Great thread, TNM did villains very well surprisingly enough even if not written perfectly all the time the potential is there and all should be brought back.

Dragon Lord: Decent villain when he's written well, he should definitely have an arc in a future show though not necessarily a season arc..

Vam Mi: Never liked her, not sure why she's popular besides her having a two (3?) parter.

Dr. Quease: Hugely underrated, I'm guessing people just consider him a poor man's Baxter Stockman but he'sa bit different, he's not really evil, he's neutral and only does things for science regardless of the consequences, we see him team up with the turtles or the dragon lord in the show depending who benefited him in his experiments, literally a mad scientist. I'd love a show that had him again and eventually a "Deadly Alliance" where he teams up with Baxter.

Silver: Like most said, a gorilla mobster, YES!

Bonesteel: A schizo bounty hunter? I wasn't a fan of him until Vam Mi's episodes, there he really shined as the potential of a schizophrenic bounty hunter can do.

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Dragon lord. This guys NEEDS to be brought back, possibly incorporating elements of his earlier image incarnation.

I'm not familiar with the image incarnation, what is it like? I know I've seen 2D artwork that used to be on ninjaturtles.com that didn't match the show.

EDIT: I accidentally voted for Hobo Shredder who was pretty cool and wasn't really a villain then but an interesting story arc that maybe didn't work out very well. but my vote went to Dr. Quease

~~mrmaczaps~~ · 03-11-2017, 11:42 AM

I voted other because the show itself was/is a villain to the franchise. The HORRORS!

*Powder* · 03-11-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Dragon lord. This guys NEEDS to be brought back, possibly incorporating elements of his earlier image incarnation.

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Originally Posted by sdp

I'm not familiar with the image incarnation, what is it like? I know I've seen 2D artwork that used to be on ninjaturtles.com that didn't match the show.

Dragon Lord wasn't in anything but The Next Mutation. King Komodo is the lead villain early on in the Image series, a completely original character with no connection to DL who I very much doubt was even remotely taken into consideration when DL was developed.

*ToTheNines* · 03-11-2017, 02:18 PM

This ^

I'm pretty sure Larsen confirmed as much in the letters section of volume 3.

(Oh, and I voted Vam Mi)

*pferreira* · 03-16-2017, 10:07 AM

I voted Venus.

Lisardo · 03-30-2017, 04:07 PM

Tossup between Bonesteel and Vam Mi.

View Poll Results: Favourite Villain?
Dragon Lord	3	18.75%
Hobo Shredder	2	12.50%
Vam Mi	2	12.50%
Bonesteel	1	6.25%
Dr. Queese	0	0%
That Yeti gangster guy.	4	25.00%
Other	4	25.00%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

03-08-2017, 12:22 PM	#1
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Favourite Next Mutation Villain? Well I know Next Mutation is far from the best version of TMNT. But, one thing it did have going for it is some creative villains. Personally, I like Dragon Lord. He looked cool, and a mystical dragon is a neat idea that fits well.And, he had some fun lines. Also, bonus points to Vam Mi for being rather pleasant to look at, and because the TMNT don't go up against Vampires often enough. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

03-08-2017, 12:43 PM	#2
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	The villains in NM do have god concepts: Dragon Lord, Vam Mi, Bonesteel and Silver could be great characters given more growth and care. I think I like Silver the best of them, a yeti in a suit running mafia operations is a fantastic idea. Just ditch the affinity for bananas and the monkey jokes shtick. Second would be Vam Mi. She adds a interesting flair of supernatural element being a vampire, and if she's ever used again I hope they incorporate more elements on her being a Chinese vampire which are very different then European vampires, that would have been really cool. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-09-2017, 04:58 AM	#3
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	ughh C'mon man. Don't make a poll if you don't know the characters! It's Silver. I woulda voted for him. But not a proper poll. TNM has tons of great villians. Wish we got that 2nd season.

03-09-2017, 06:24 AM	#5
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	Silver, Vam Mi, and Bonesteel in that order. Dragon Lord I honestly don't like his design. I certainly need to rewatch the show to judge his character though. Same with Quease. __________________

03-09-2017, 05:01 AM	#4
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,230	Silver for sure. He has a badass design.

03-09-2017, 08:22 AM	#6
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Dragon lord. This guys NEEDS to be brought back, possibly incorporating elements of his earlier image incarnation.

03-09-2017, 10:42 AM	#7
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,279	Saban is my favorite TNM Villain because he made a Mockery of TMNT trying to make it with stupid sound effects forced female turtle and tried the Power Rangers formula and it didn't work. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

03-11-2017, 11:42 AM	#10
~~mrmaczaps~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 2,619	I voted other because the show itself was/is a villain to the franchise. The HORRORS!

03-11-2017, 02:18 PM	#12
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	This ^ I'm pretty sure Larsen confirmed as much in the letters section of volume 3. (Oh, and I voted Vam Mi)

03-16-2017, 10:07 AM	#13
pferreira Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,514	I voted Venus.

03-30-2017, 04:07 PM	#14
Lisardo Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 702	Tossup between Bonesteel and Vam Mi. __________________ "Look I'm not gonna stop doing what's right just because it's not appreciated." -Leo