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Old 07-18-2017, 10:30 PM   #601
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Nah, I don't think I will. But the please is a nice touch.

So something that occurred to me after I left the movie was the two-fold reasoning of getting the girlfriend or if town.

One it will keep her from dating Peter.
Two it will keep her a safe distance should they stay in touch.
Because when someone comes gunning for the spider, they're going to take his friends and family too.

I like that while he was completely unscrupulous, he still love his family.

They just did such a good job with vulture.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:43 PM   #602
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:03 PM   #603
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They just did such a good job with vulture.
Not really. Michael Keaton's performance was competent but the character himself was very very simple. Writing a character to be decent enough to not murder his own wife and kid while going out into the world and murdering other people's wives and kids doesn't earn you a "good job" sticker.
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:09 PM   #604
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Not really. Michael Keaton's performance was competent but the character himself was very very simple. Writing a character to be decent enough to not murder his own wife and kid while going out into the world and murdering other people's wives and kids doesn't earn you a "good job" sticker.
He worked for me. Comic Vulture isn't a complex character either. The only time he was interesting was when he was in the f*cking nursing home.
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:17 PM   #605
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Not really. Michael Keaton's performance was competent but the character himself was very very simple. Writing a character to be decent enough to not murder his own wife and kid while going out into the world and murdering other people's wives and kids doesn't earn you a "good job" sticker.
Well he wasn't a full on villain. He murdered someone on-screen, but he was one of his crew and he did it by accident (he said he thought he used the anti-gravity gun, so he didn't intend to kill him), and was mostly looking to steal more tech. He also gave Spiderman many chances to stay away before he said he would kill him, and even then he felt redeemed in the post-credits scene where he said he wouldn't give away Peter's identity.

The day of completely crazed supervillains is pretty much over. I didn't see him as much more than a working class man looking to start his own business after being treated badly by society.
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:38 PM   #606
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Well he wasn't a full on villain. He murdered someone on-screen, but he was one of his crew and he did it by accident (he said he thought he used the anti-gravity gun, so he didn't intend to kill him), and was mostly looking to steal more tech. He also gave Spiderman many chances to stay away before he said he would kill him, and even then he felt redeemed in the post-credits scene where he said he wouldn't give away Peter's identity.

The day of completely crazed supervillains is pretty much over. I didn't see him as much more than a working class man looking to start his own business after being treated badly by society.
2008 Joker begs to differ.

Man, I can't wait to see Homecoming. I think I'll save my ticket money and just buy the DVD when it comes out... sounds like it's worth the buy!
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2008 Joker begs to differ.
Yeah, but well, 2008 was nearly a decade ago. I know, I know, time flies.

It's easy to forget the 2010's are actually a different decade than 2000-2009. I forget all the time too. For some reason I feel like the 90's are still "last decade" and everything now is still the early 2000's.

The passage of time is weird as hell. It's literally been 15 years since the first Spiderman movie came out in 2002. I remember seeing it in theaters like it was only yesterday.
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:31 AM   #608
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I like that while he was completely unscrupulous, he still love his family.

They just did such a good job with vulture.
Even with the crazy robot wings, he was the most believable bad guy in a comic book movie for a long time. Keaton's performance doesn't hurt either; that scene where he figures out what's going on in the car was probably the highlight of the movie for me.
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I can't believe it's been 1 year since 2016, which is equivalent to 1989 in 1990. Can you believe 1917 was 100 years ago? Hell, I still remember 1640 like it was yesterday.
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He worked for me. Comic Vulture isn't a complex character either. The only time he was interesting was when he was in the f*cking nursing home.
Which comic is this?
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Old 07-19-2017, 06:26 AM   #611
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You haven't read much Spider-Man have you? Peter's uncle and aunt were much older than his parents. Almost more like grandparents. And May had a weak heart. They had quite a few stories that pointed out how much of an age gap there was between his aunt/uncle and his parents. Including one where his "parents" came back, or when Octavius almost married May, or when she "died".... You get the idea. Now the movies want her to be young and "fun". Why, exactly? It does not serve her character in any way. In fact it goes against her role in the mythos in many ways.
Dude, I get that but my point is that it's an approach that maybe they thought on one hand it doesn't make sense for a sister to be a few generations older than the other. But filling me in with the above context, totally understand with what you are saying.

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Which comic is this?
Aunt May had a little-known boyfriend I think in the late '80s to '90s. They lived in a nursing home. I haven't read the issue itself but Vulture apparently visited the home (since in the comics he's old as dirt) and shenanigans ensued, resulting in May's boyfriend being killed. A little later Vulture kidnapped Aunt May, the twist being that he only takes her somewhere where he can apologize for killing him.
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Cheers for the info! I think I found it: Amazing Spiderman Vol 1 #224
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Yep, that's the issue. I highly recommend Stern's run if you can get your hands on it.
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:56 AM   #615
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Yes, and it is followed up on in Amazing Spider-Man #336 while the fallout happens in a bittersweet Spectacular Spider-Man#187.
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Dude, I get that but my point is that it's an approach that maybe they thought on one hand it doesn't make sense for a sister to be a few generations older than the other. But filling me in with the above context, totally understand with what you are saying.

Technically they are not biologically related. Ben was Peter's dad's brother. May was aunt by marriage. But yes the age difference was sort of a big part of the comics. And she wasn't ALWAYS old. People forget that.....


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Aunt May had a little-known boyfriend I think in the late '80s to '90s. They lived in a nursing home. I haven't read the issue itself but Vulture apparently visited the home (since in the comics he's old as dirt) and shenanigans ensued, resulting in May's boyfriend being killed. A little later Vulture kidnapped Aunt May, the twist being that he only takes her somewhere where he can apologize for killing him.

She did indeed and it was a great story. This is one of the very instances in the comics I was referring to. May being in danger from villains going after Spidey, along with various other risks of her knowing his secret, were some of the main reasons he never told her. Including her age and health.


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Cheers for the info! I think I found it: Amazing Spiderman Vol 1 #224

I've read this one and it was very good. There is a lot of great material in the early comics. Even as far as the infamous AS-M #350 issue with Harry's drug-related death. They really need to dig into some of those older stories for the movies.


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Yes, and it is followed up on in Amazing Spider-Man #336 while the fallout happens in a bittersweet Spectacular Spider-Man#187.
I second this.
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I'm willing to bet 60% of the people who watched this movie have never picked up a Spiderman comic in their life, so I don't think they care what Aunt May was like in the 60's-early 2000's.
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Yeah. Ironically I bet these same people are the ones saying how great it is that this Spidey is the one "closest to the comics" because he's a fun-lovin' kid in high school played by an age-appropriate actor. Peter was only in high school for three years out of his decades-long history.
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Yeah. Ironically I bet these same people are the ones saying how great it is that this Spidey is the one "closest to the comics" because he's a fun-lovin' kid in high school played by an age-appropriate actor. Peter was only in high school for three years out of his decades-long history.
But his core personality is mostly the same. I think this movie felt like Spider-Man's character.
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Tom Holland was great. I'm glad he looks young too. It's hard to believe he's 21 years old in real life. He certainly doesn't look it. I would have assumed he was 18-19 at most.
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