Do you think it's possible to have a dead Splinter ?in a TMNT show?

*Ninturtle* · 07-16-2015, 05:42 AM

Do you guys think it's possible to see a dead Splinter on a TMNT show?I know Ciro wanted to have Splinter dead in the new show and have him return through flash backs of his teachings. Do you think any one would be aloud to do anything like that with approval of the company they work for? Or what conditions would need to happen for this to be approved?

Zak The Neutrino · 07-16-2015, 07:22 AM

I think the only way they could do it is if he was dead before the show starts telling the story.

Look at how much heat Hasbro took in the 80's for killing Prime in the movie. That was the 80's when the world wasn't so sensitive.

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 07-16-2015, 07:35 AM

It could work if done right.

That's pretty much my answer to most things in shows/movies.

Splinter the boss · 07-16-2015, 07:58 AM

Possibly, I can imagine that. But what about wisdom ? Where will the turtles draw wisdom from ? I understand they could remember his teachings, but a time would come when they need specific wisdom.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 07-16-2015, 08:02 AM

While not mentioned, it's easy to understand it already happened in the future of 1987 cartoon's "Once Upon a Time Machine"

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-16-2015, 08:28 AM

I don't see any show aimed at a young audience going that route.

*GoldMutant* · 07-16-2015, 08:41 AM

Depends on your age route. If for younger kids, that could be impossible unless they want a tone similar to Digimon Tamers where they killed quite a few characters or even Batman: TAS. However, if it aimed for a more teen demographic or young adult demographic, I see it happening. I'd be interested in seeing a main character truly killed.

*Icebot* · 07-16-2015, 10:45 AM

Splinter actually was dead in the 2003 episode Same As It Never Was and it was mentioned.

*neatoman* · 07-16-2015, 01:01 PM

Maybe? If the plan is for the show to be short, then I could see that.

*IndigoErth* · 07-16-2015, 01:10 PM

I could see a series aimed at older teens and adults where the Turtles are likewise now adults - say mid-20s, or 30s to catch them up with the age of their franchise - and the duration of the series covers some years of their lives after Splinter is gone. If he has died of old age (or however), then set the stage by opening the series just as his funeral is ending and we follow the brothers as they try to go on with their lives without him. Obviously lots of flashbacks and prob there in spirit via dreams or meditation at times.

Now if you want to straight out kill him in an episode and see it... well, good luck. I don't see that happening too easily.

mikey22 · 07-16-2015, 02:20 PM

itd be great for a splintleress season

if not a season maybe a 5 part mini series something like the xmen series where most of them died w/ the gambit assasin series

*THGhost* · 07-16-2015, 02:40 PM

Absolutely. There's been several instances where the Turtles thought he was dead, so why not make it so sometime? Maybe not right now in the Nick series, but later on or in the next incarnation. It could be rather interesting to see how the the Turtles and co. react to losing their Sensei.

*Powder* · 07-16-2015, 05:19 PM

I don't see anyone giving that the OK, be it for the inappropriate nature of death in a children's series, or due to his iconic status as a character.

*sdp* · 07-16-2015, 05:59 PM

Of course it could happen, I honestly don't undrestand why anyone would say it's not possible besides their own personal feelings about it. Viacom wouldn't care about it. Of course children can take it, it's happened in many other cartoons. This isn't killing one of the four turtles or April.

Now of course they wouldn't kill on screen Splinter in a fight, or even after a big fight. It'd be more subtle most likely because of "old age" or some disease.

*Shark_Blade* · 07-16-2015, 06:06 PM

Nah, too boring.

It's pretty lame in Mirage where Splinter died, it's a downer Splinter died in 2k3 (Same as it never was), it's pretty boring when Splinter was presumed dead in 2k12.

So no.

CharmedSerenity · 07-16-2015, 06:10 PM

With all this talk of Splinter dying, out of curiosity who else reads MNT Gaiden?

*shuriken* · 07-16-2015, 06:19 PM

Read it to a pooint. Stopped reading after Mikey got in that fight with the elite gaurd

*Powder* · 07-16-2015, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharmedSerenity

With all this talk of Splinter dying, out of curiosity who else reads MNT Gaiden?

Let's keep this to canon discussion & not trope-heavy fan projects...

CharmedSerenity · 07-17-2015, 12:29 PM

sorry guys

jenna · 07-17-2015, 02:37 PM

I think it would make for really interesting storytelling. There's a lot that could be explored in the turtles' relationships with each other and Splinter if the story were to open at the point of grief.

07-16-2015, 05:42 AM	#1
Ninturtle Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2014 Location: Earth Posts: 1,534	Do you think it's possible to have a dead Splinter ?in a TMNT show? Do you guys think it's possible to see a dead Splinter on a TMNT show?I know Ciro wanted to have Splinter dead in the new show and have him return through flash backs of his teachings. Do you think any one would be aloud to do anything like that with approval of the company they work for? Or what conditions would need to happen for this to be approved?

07-16-2015, 07:35 AM	#3
Whatswiththeheadbands? The Weed of Crime Join Date: May 2013 Location: The Shadow's Sanctum Posts: 3,006	It could work if done right. That's pretty much my answer to most things in shows/movies. __________________ Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of Men? The Shadow knows...

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Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,169	While not mentioned, it's easy to understand it already happened in the future of 1987 cartoon's "Once Upon a Time Machine" Last edited by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan; 07-16-2015 at 09:00 AM.

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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I don't see any show aimed at a young audience going that route. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

07-16-2015, 10:45 AM	#8
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,193	Splinter actually was dead in the 2003 episode Same As It Never Was and it was mentioned. __________________ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Icebot7/videos Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Icebot251

07-16-2015, 07:22 AM	#2
Zak The Neutrino Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: WI Posts: 654	I think the only way they could do it is if he was dead before the show starts telling the story. Look at how much heat Hasbro took in the 80's for killing Prime in the movie. That was the 80's when the world wasn't so sensitive.

07-16-2015, 07:58 AM	#4
Splinter the boss Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Posts: 937	Possibly, I can imagine that. But what about wisdom ? Where will the turtles draw wisdom from ? I understand they could remember his teachings, but a time would come when they need specific wisdom.

07-16-2015, 08:41 AM	#7
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	Depends on your age route. If for younger kids, that could be impossible unless they want a tone similar to Digimon Tamers where they killed quite a few characters or even Batman: TAS. However, if it aimed for a more teen demographic or young adult demographic, I see it happening. I'd be interested in seeing a main character truly killed.

07-16-2015, 01:10 PM	#10
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 15,285	I could see a series aimed at older teens and adults where the Turtles are likewise now adults - say mid-20s, or 30s to catch them up with the age of their franchise - and the duration of the series covers some years of their lives after Splinter is gone. If he has died of old age (or however), then set the stage by opening the series just as his funeral is ending and we follow the brothers as they try to go on with their lives without him. Obviously lots of flashbacks and prob there in spirit via dreams or meditation at times. Now if you want to straight out kill him in an episode and see it... well, good luck. I don't see that happening too easily.

07-16-2015, 02:20 PM	#11
mikey22 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: IL Posts: 620	itd be great for a splintleress season if not a season maybe a 5 part mini series something like the xmen series where most of them died w/ the gambit assasin series

07-16-2015, 02:40 PM	#12
THGhost Puppet Master Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: UK Posts: 2,825	Absolutely. There's been several instances where the Turtles thought he was dead, so why not make it so sometime? Maybe not right now in the Nick series, but later on or in the next incarnation. It could be rather interesting to see how the the Turtles and co. react to losing their Sensei. __________________ - - - 1990 > OotS > TMNT 2014 > Turtles Forever > TMNT III > SotO > TMNT 2007 "Can't we all just get along?" - pennydreadful "...bitchy people are what make fan forums insufferable when they don't need to be." - B-Man "Act like freakin' adults for goodness sake." - Jester "Tough guys with tiny voices." - Commenter 42

07-16-2015, 05:19 PM	#13
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,815	I don't see anyone giving that the OK, be it for the inappropriate nature of death in a children's series, or due to his iconic status as a character. __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

07-16-2015, 05:59 PM	#14
sdp Megan Fox = April Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 9,999	Of course it could happen, I honestly don't undrestand why anyone would say it's not possible besides their own personal feelings about it. Viacom wouldn't care about it. Of course children can take it, it's happened in many other cartoons. This isn't killing one of the four turtles or April. Now of course they wouldn't kill on screen Splinter in a fight, or even after a big fight. It'd be more subtle most likely because of "old age" or some disease. __________________ *Bye* *TMNT !!! I'm unaliving tonight* Click to join The Drome Discord server

07-16-2015, 06:06 PM	#15
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,902	Nah, too boring. It's pretty lame in Mirage where Splinter died, it's a downer Splinter died in 2k3 (Same as it never was), it's pretty boring when Splinter was presumed dead in 2k12. So no.

07-16-2015, 06:10 PM	#16
CharmedSerenity Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In front of her computer Posts: 1,335	With all this talk of Splinter dying, out of curiosity who else reads MNT Gaiden? __________________ Favorite incarnations: 2k3 animated series, 2014 & 2016 movies and the IDW comics.

07-16-2015, 06:19 PM	#17
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Read it to a pooint. Stopped reading after Mikey got in that fight with the elite gaurd __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

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CharmedSerenity Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In front of her computer Posts: 1,335	sorry guys __________________ Favorite incarnations: 2k3 animated series, 2014 & 2016 movies and the IDW comics.

07-17-2015, 02:37 PM	#20
jenna Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,190	I think it would make for really interesting storytelling. There's a lot that could be explored in the turtles' relationships with each other and Splinter if the story were to open at the point of grief. __________________ 2k3 Don: That's not a trans-dimensional portal stick. That's... a flashlight! OT Don: It was a flashlight, but with a little rewiring and a lot more positive thinking, it'll soon be a trans-dimensional portal stick. Now hand me that hammer. 2k3 Don: This is a wrench.