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Old 03-08-2020, 10:52 PM   #61
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Agreed but what's the rights issues?
WB has distribution rights, Nick/Viacom owns the property, and Orange Sky Golden Harvest owns the film. Apparently it's difficult getting all three to agree on anything?

There's also a lawsuit that was filed by the screenwriters against (I think) Golden Harvest, saying they were never paid their proper residuals. That old chestnut. I'm not sure if that would inhibit any media release, but nothing would shock me at this point.

Expectation for a proper release is low but hope is high. I never thought we would have kickass 1:4 scale Henson figures, but here we are.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:34 PM   #62
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WB has distribution rights, Nick/Viacom owns the property, and Orange Sky Golden Harvest owns the film. Apparently it's difficult getting all three to agree on anything?

There's also a lawsuit that was filed by the screenwriters against (I think) Golden Harvest, saying they were never paid their proper residuals. That old chestnut. I'm not sure if that would inhibit any media release, but nothing would shock me at this point.

Expectation for a proper release is low but hope is high. I never thought we would have kickass 1:4 scale Henson figures, but here we are.
I have to wonder how the films managed to get a release on blu-ray some years back with all the stuff you listed. I guess was agreed in the end.
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Old 03-25-2020, 03:53 PM   #63
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I have to wonder how the films managed to get a release on blu-ray some years back with all the stuff you listed. I guess was agreed in the end.
WB has distribution rights in the US, meaning they can release the film on physical and digital markets with little problem.

I'm fairly certain they are the biggest holdout on special features. Several years ago, a German release included a director's commentary and the alternate ending, so it is possible to work with Golden Harvest, who owns the film and its materials. (I don't believe Paramount/Nick is a major roadblock regarding these films, but I could be wrong.) WB is no longer generous in adding special features to their catalog release and I've seen little evidence to suggest they are willing to do so here.

The extended cut everyone (including Kevin Eastman and Steve Barron) is wanting has an additional obstacle. From what I understand, the negatives featuring the cut footage are missing and the scenes only exist on a workprint VHS tape. Granted, the footage can still be included as deleted scenes or they could include the entire workprint cut as a special feature, much like The 'Burbs a few years back. But once again, WB has to be willing to do it.

But I do wonder how much of a nightmare it would be for a licensing company like Shout Factory to handle the film. This is all speculation, but I'm assuming they'd not only have to navigate their way around complicated rights stuff with various levels of approval from WB, Golden Harvest, and Paramount/Nick, but also The Jim Henson Creature Shop if they want to use their b-roll footage.

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Old 03-25-2020, 05:32 PM   #64
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I have to wonder how the films managed to get a release on blu-ray some years back with all the stuff you listed. I guess was agreed in the end.
The Blu-ray was originally released before the Nick buyout, so maybe that has something to do with it? All subsequent releases have been reprints of the same disc.

Like fbomb said, it's all speculation.

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From what I understand, the negatives featuring the cut footage are missing and the scenes only exist on a workprint VHS tape.
Just out of curiosity, what's your source on the film elements thing?

Personally, I'm 110% down with getting the VHS version. The way The Burbs handled it was fantastic.

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Old 03-26-2020, 10:08 AM   #65
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just out of curiosity, what's your source on the film elements thing?
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/due...ute/e/55292600

It was mentioned by Kevin Eastman in his interview with the Ninja Turtle Minute podcast. About 14 minutes in, he discusses the complications of doing an extended cut and mentions that the raw materials needed to do it have been "lost or destroyed."

Last night, I decided to purchase a PDF of the script from ScriptFly. I'm not sure how current events will effect when I receive it, but I figured it was worth a shot. I'm currently planning an article on the deleted scenes, a companion piece to a retrospective I'm writing for the film's 30th anniversary. Hopefully, it pans out.

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Old 03-26-2020, 10:43 AM   #66
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https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/due...ute/e/55292600

It was mentioned by Kevin Eastman in his interview with the Ninja Turtle Minute podcast. About 14 minutes in, he discusses the complications of doing an extended cut and mentions that the raw materials needed to do it have been "lot or destroyed."

Last night, I decided to purchase a PDF of the script from ScriptFly. I'm not sure how current events will effect when I receive it, but I figured it was worth a shot. I'm currently planning an article on the deleted scenes, a companion piece to a retrospective I'm writing for the film's 30th anniversary. Hopefully, it pans out.
Thanks! I don't think I've heard that podcast.

...and cancel that order, dude!

https://www.docdroid.net/hIrNXMH/tmnt-6-5-89-scan.pdf
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Old 03-26-2020, 11:10 AM   #67
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Thanks! I don't think I've heard that podcast.
They also interviewed Steve Barron and John Du Prez. I highly recommend both episodes, but especially the Du Prez episode.

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https://www.docdroid.net/hIrNXMH/tmnt-6-5-89-scan.pdf
OMG, thank you! I've been looking for the full thing for a while.
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If films like The Wizard can get a 4K remaster there's no reason in the world TMNT can't. There's way more market for the later. There just needs to be a will somewhere in the chain that controls these things. I hope it's there, or will surface shortly.
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:38 PM   #69
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If films like The Wizard can get a 4K remaster there's no reason in the world TMNT can't. There's way more market for the later. There just needs to be a will somewhere in the chain that controls these things. I hope it's there, or will surface shortly.
That was through a licensing deal with Shout Factory. Had Universal released it themselves, it would've probably been an upscale without special features. Companies like Shout and Arrow treat films better than the studios that own them. I'm praying one of them gets their hand on the TMNT films.
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That was through a licensing deal with Shout Factory. Had Universal released it themselves, it would've probably been an upscale without special features. Companies like Shout and Arrow treat films better than the studios that own them. I'm praying one of them gets their hand on the TMNT films.
One can but dream ...
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