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07-15-2020, 12:43 PM | #1 |
Overlord
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Do you feel the CG still holds up in 2020?
The first season was designed around late 2011/early 2012 for a 2012 debut. If you have the show in HD, how do you feel the CG holds up in 2020? As we know the show itself looked better as it went on (Seasons 3+ looked better CG-wise than the first two seasons), but do you think the CG holds up?
I worry the show might look very dated in a few years time and become difficult to rewatch. I guess the cartoony art style helps it since it's not done in realistic art. |
07-15-2020, 01:16 PM | #2 |
Emperor
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The CGI does not hold up. I rewatched season 1 in 2017 and felt it was pretty primitive looking, that was a mere 5 years after it debuted. So no, the CGI does indeed not hold up now wither, aged really poorly really quickly. Even aside from being kind of weak now, there are aspects to the animation that were always questionable. Any liquid that appears seems to behave like thick gravy, there's always a surprising lack of background characters and the backgrounds themselves tend to be reused way too often so it'll come across like NYC consists of a single block. In fairness, this is budgeted more like a cheap toy commercial (which is kind of why this show exists in the first place, to market a toyline) rather than genuine entertainment, it was never going to age gracefully.
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07-15-2020, 02:20 PM | #3 |
Stone Warrior
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I think it holds up fine. Sure, in the beginning the animation wasn't quite as good, which led to things like a conspicuously empty New York, but in terms of the other things, the cartoon is stylized enough that the shortcomings are hidden and it still looks great. It's sort of like the Jimmy Neutron cartoon, which you would think would looke terrible now, but actually looks okay, again due to the styilization. The 2012 show still has detailed character models, fluid action, and proper lip syncing, with animation that only gets better and more detailed as the show goes on, which is especially evident in the fight scenes.
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07-15-2020, 02:38 PM | #4 |
Team Blue Boy
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It's fine... the show isn't that old at all and technologically speaking, 3D animation for cartoons hasn't exactly changed that much between then and now. Being a cartoon, the only thing there is to not hold up over time in the relative near future is just from future shifts in the typical look and animation style of those sorts of cartoons. But even then it's artistic decisions and cost. Good luck getting more detailed looking "kid" series without it costing a lot more.
The early part of this one doesn't feel as fluid in animation, but... art style and cost as well, given that the same technology is already long capable of realistic 3D. edit: Come to think of it... maybe the success of that series and its merchandise sales allowed it the funds to put more money into it and smooth out the animation and afford the increased render time after that first season. Hmm. Last edited by IndigoErth; 07-15-2020 at 04:38 PM. |
07-15-2020, 03:56 PM | #5 |
Mad Scientist
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It only ended in 2017 (though you refer to the early seasons). The show still works for me, later seasons look a little better but I think they were more limited to what they could do early on (even having long hair on Karai and April) The random extra humans could look dull (Kirby for example) but I didn't care so much about them, I liked the look of a number of characters and there are some impressive fight scenes in the show. Maybe give it a few more years before I look again and ask that question.
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07-15-2020, 04:46 PM | #6 |
Megan Fox = April
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It was never amazing CG, the cartoony style works and for the most part it holds up, human characters are the ones that will suffer the most of course. I don't think it looks much worse than it did when it first started airing.
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07-15-2020, 04:53 PM | #7 |
Team Blue Boy
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Plastic looking 3D hair always bugs me a little, but what has to go into more realistic hair in that medium would have taken an oversized bite of budget then it reasonably needed to.
Heck, better development of hair in it isn't even all that old either. Disney's Tangled for example, if I recall correctly, the advancements within 3D for what they wanted and needed for that film didn't even exist yet so they had to invent it themselves. Which is awesome, because companies with money to do it are always able to bring those advances to 3D/CGI in general. But Tangled came out in 2010, only two years before TMNT 2012 premiered. Not that plug-ins didn't exist for hair already to an extent, but it was still improving not that long before the time 2012 was itself in the development stage. Hopefully it will eventually become easier and cheaper to do so maybe a future 3D show, were another to exist, might be able to spruce that up a little and avoid looking so plastic. |
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