Season 4

[nimrod]

So after finishing the Season 2 Part 1 disk a week or so back, I watched some episodes from the Season 4 disk (Tale of Hamato Yoshi and basically the 3-part good Genes story). I realized how great the stories in season 4 were. They were also doing some heavy planning for the Lost season then as you could tell in these episodes although at the time we had no clue what was going on. I've seen all the Lost Season episodes but I'm still re-watching them on tv. These seem to lack something special that season 4 had and I can't really put my finger on it. Maybe it's just because season 4 deals alot more with stories personal to the turtles( anrgy Leo, monster-Don, Yoshi, etc) and not saving the world. I guess I like the smaller stories better. I still like the Lost season alot though and it is still 10 times better than FF. Just some of my thoughts. Anybody else care to comment?

[Sage Ninja]

I agree with you on season four, I enjoyed this season the best out of all of them because of the deeply personal issues the turtles where facing. And not just the turtles but the villans and secondary characters too like Karai and her take over of the Shredder role and her quest for vengence, Hun and him becoming his own villan and raising the purple dragons from petty street thugs to a sophisticated crime syndicate, and Baxter given some back ground and made into a sympathatic character with a tragic back ground, as well as Casey and his issues with Hun and his involvment with his father's death. Season four was a season with alot of meat and patatoes and not just the salad. This season was bold, in some ways bad (like trying to be a R-rated movie on a kids station) but in most ways bold and intense and mature that was ball bustingly good. With strong continuity that led right up to the events in season five.

I'm enjoying season five so far but you are right that it has a sort of surrealness to it that seems a bit detached from the turtles personally as characters. I think that this in part is due to the small mumber of episodes in season five, so it has less time to felsh out and get personal with the turtles and the new characters it introduced and seemed some and couldn't take it's time like season four could in terms of story-telling and showing deeper nusances to it. Season five seems very event driven (so far) that is only 12 episodes long and I think the writers where concentrating on connecting the dots and getting all the angles to the plot fleshed out to tell the story reather than delving into the turtles or acolytes. Had this been a longer season with more time to take its time and develop the characters and their back grounds and how each other the turtles felt and grew with the training and the events presented to them we might have gotten something was more personal to the turtles like season four was. But then I haven't see all of season five yet and so far I'm enjoying it so it might see more that make me enjoy it even more so I'll have to wait and see.

[maryshine]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I agree with you on season four, I enjoyed this season the best out of all of them because of the deeply personal issues the turtles where facing. And not just the turtles but the villans and secondary characters too like Karai and her take over of the Shredder role and her quest for vengence, Hun and him becoming his own villan and raising the purple dragons from petty street thugs to a sophisticated crime syndicate, and Baxter given some back ground and made into a sympathatic character with a tragic back ground, as well as Casey and his issues with Hun and his involvment with his father's death. Season four was a season with alot of meat and patatoes and not just the salad. This season was bold, in some ways bad (like trying to be a R-rated movie on a kids station) but in most ways bold and intense and mature that was ball bustingly good. With strong continuity that led right up to the events in season five.

I'm enjoying season five so far but you are right that it has a sort of surrealness to it that seems a bit detached from the turtles personally as characters. I think that this in part is due to the small mumber of episodes in season five, so it has less time to felsh out and get personal with the turtles and the new characters it introduced and seemed some and couldn't take it's time like season four could in terms of story-telling and showing deeper nusances to it. Season five seems very event driven (so far) that is only 12 episodes long and I think the writers where concentrating on connecting the dots and getting all the angles to the plot fleshed out to tell the story reather than delving into the turtles or acolytes. Had this been a longer season with more time to take its time and develop the characters and their back grounds and how each other the turtles felt and grew with the training and the events presented to them we might have gotten something was more personal to the turtles like season four was. But then I haven't see all of season five yet and so far I'm enjoying it so it might see more that make me enjoy it even more so I'll have to wait and see.

Seaon four is my faviorite, though I do like the lost season as well. I just hope in the next season we see some more Karai and Leo action.

[nimrod]

I guess it all goes back to characterization and personal conflict (with just about all the characters). The lost season episodes don't seem to have as much personal conflict but instead focus on the group conflict. I still can't wait to get the Lost Season DVD and re-watch these episodes.

I do hope the new season goes back at least to some more serious episodes (compared to FF). If not, at least we got 5 great season's on TMNT to watch.

[VaughnMichael]

hmm what's see what I have to say on the matter especially Leo and karai.

Yep, that about covers it.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

hmm what's see what I have to say on the matter especially Leo and karai.

Yep, that about covers it.

Amen.

Karai/Chaplin sex FTW

[odupianist]

I think season four (and five too) ended the Leo/Karai thing, but who knows. I agree Zarius sex FTW.

[maryshine]

Originally Posted by nimrod

I do hope the new season goes back at least to some more serious episodes (compared to FF). If not, at least we got 5 great season's on TMNT to watch.

I agree. I'll be upset if season 7 isn't serious!

[maryshine]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

hmm what's see what I have to say on the matter especially Leo and karai.

Yep, that about covers it.

LOL! Most likely, yeah. But hey, I can still hope right?

[Jelly Bean]

Originally Posted by maryshine

I agree. I'll be upset if season 7 isn't serious!

so will I! I loved the show when it was serious and mature. I have some friends from my class that I watch the show with and they where mad when the show changed. Although I did enjoy some aspects of the change it felt to weird for me at times.