Institutions and the downfall of sanity

**Voltron** · 04-13-2003, 11:53 AM

I was thinking about my childhood the other day and how it was a living hell. All my life I've been bored with order and just wanted chaos and ultimate freedom from everything. I'm completely paranoid and my mental health is not that great. This can be documented in some of my early posts where I demanded that Leonardo stopped being a wuss and just cut some people down with his katanas.

What I've noticed is that other people with these traits have at least one of two things in common. They went to Catholic School or were in Boy Scouts.

My theory is that both of these places teach order and civil obedience so much that the mind loses all ability to give a damn about order and civil obedience. Most boy scouts I know are either goths or have the insatiable thrist to do malice and human blood. All catholic school kids I know are psychotic weirdos (including myself) and can hold conversations between at least 10 people all by themselves.

Anyone else notice this?

*Nickokapo* · 04-13-2003, 12:04 PM

Yeah that's quite understandable, that's why i wish most parents would take care of how they rase their children, how they are raised will affect how they are and of course might even bring them some mental problems in the future if done wrong

Then again it's hard to blame them, as there is no right way to raise someone and they probably wanted the best for you in the first place.
Psychologists and/or psychiatrians might be able to fix them...or might not (since i believe once you grow up im unsure you can change)...i have no idea since i havent gone to any of them yet

~~Reznorite420~~ · 04-13-2003, 12:55 PM

Hey now...I was in Boy Scouts for 7 years, yet I'm perfectly normal...hey, I just realized BS is short for Boy Scouts

Let me tell you my life story so that you'll know how I balanced out:

OK, my dad was still in the military (Air Force) when I was born. Add to that he's a Vietnam war veteran (he enlisted in the Navy right out of high school), the only values he knows of are the organized military discipline ones. He expected both me and my sister while we were growing up to:

-keep things neat and tidy with NO clutter whatsoever, any clutter and we'd get our butts blistered

-do things perfectly the first time without gaining experience first; the first time I ever mowed the lawn (10 years old), I kept going this way and that about a degree or so off. He chewed my head off as if I'd taken his car and drove drunk in it! See what I mean?

-not socialize with the "spoiled-rotten yuppies", as he so eloquently put it[/sarcasm], when in fact a lot of the kids I grew up with were just normal ones that had maybe a few things beyond the bare essentials, but nothing too fancy. I have him and that value to thank for me not developing the correct social skills that I REALLY need to get by in the school I go to now...

-like certain pop-cultural items according to what HE thought we should like, not us. I find that very ironic and hypocritical since he was a semi-hippie during the late 60s and early 70s, so he liked things against the conformity and what his dad (my grandpa, for the clueless) thought was immoral. My dad today doesn't like the idea that I listen to stuff such as Nine Inch Nails, Marylin Manson, and the like. Crazy.

Now, I'll bet you're asking, "OK, so you're saying you've balanced out in a way, yet what you've put so far is making us think that you've listened to your dad all this time." Well, let me finish...

Thankfully, the other parent of mine is just the exact opposite of the other. Why they even married is beyond me. On the other hand, my mom expected me and my sister to:

-live life our own way. Plain and simple. Her philosophy is that the more choices we make, the more we learn, and therefore we've turned out better than most of our peers.

And that's basically it. She never completely "shielded" anything from us, so therefore we have a better perception of reality and fantasy. Let me put it this way: I think it's a load of BS that parents today don't want their children exposed to certain scenes of violence/sex/language until they all of a sudden turn a certain age. I'm sorry, but that's not how it happens, people. You have to gradually expose them to that stuff in order for them to understand it. You can't just leave them in darkness and then out of nowhere shine the light on them at blinding intensity. You can't have them walk before they can crawl, figuratively speaking. Now I'm not saying everything is appropriate for all ages; I certainly wouldn't let a 5-year-old watch a Hustler Porno of the Month video at all. I'm just saying things like that aren't babysitters, just as long as they watch certain things WITH SUPERVISION, there's no problem with them watching it.

I'm rambling, so....

*Nickokapo* · 04-13-2003, 01:17 PM

Wow...i'd say something smart but it'd turn out to be stupid

well congrats achieving normalness

i dunno why voltron says being a boyscout can be bad for your mental health, it can't be that bad can it?

~~Tokka-B~~ · 04-13-2003, 03:01 PM

What was the point of this topic? I already know your crazy Voltron...no need for some big post about it...

*That Matt Guy* · 04-13-2003, 03:04 PM

You must be pretty young if you're parents care about what kind of music you listen to.

*Eye of Sarnath* · 04-13-2003, 04:14 PM

You know Voltron, that's so true it isn't even funny...

*Raven* · 04-13-2003, 04:18 PM

this thread sums up my hole life..................im crazy and I know it

~~Reznorite420~~ · 04-13-2003, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew138

You must be pretty young if you're parents care about what kind of music you listen to.

No, just have a parent that is more conservative than Bob Dole at a Baptist convention...

The weirdest part is that I don't even live the s**thead anymore, yet he still tells me what I can and cannot do. IE, the one nice thing he's done for me is give me his old car (which is still in pretty good condition) without asking me for a penny. Now, like I said, I don't live with him, but he's telling me what to do and what NOT to do with it. Um, dad, if you're reading this, not only do I not live with you, but it's MY car now AND I'm 18...

Yeah, that's a slap in the face to you, pop

**Voltron** · 04-13-2003, 06:00 PM

Tokka, I just felt that I needed to explain just a small part of why I'm a loon. There are many MANY other factors contributing to my mental ineptitude.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 04-13-2003, 06:04 PM

Alright, but do you hear voices? And are you a skitzo? Cause those are some major things that can cause craziness...

**Voltron** · 04-13-2003, 06:12 PM

Truthfully? I have conversations with myself. I don't mean just to be weird, but meaningful conversations. But they usually wind up ending in childless name calling, and me never wanting to speak to me again.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 04-13-2003, 06:19 PM

Alright...do you stay in your room a lot and don't like the public? Do you voices warn you of people who come to your house are bad even if they are only workers or something?

*That Matt Guy* · 04-13-2003, 06:26 PM

It sounds like Voltron lives a lonely, sheltered life.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 04-13-2003, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew138

It sounds like Voltron lives a lonely, sheltered life.

Yeah, makes me look like an extrovert...

~~Tokka-B~~ · 04-13-2003, 07:43 PM

No offense Voltron, but Matt is crazier than you...but don't let that worry you, you are still #6 in funniest people on the boards...

*Eye of Sarnath* · 04-13-2003, 08:40 PM

I have conversations with myself all the time. Mainly because I'm the only one who will listen.

I do know someone who claims that the voices in their head talk to them on a regular basis... strangely enough, they're also one of my best friends. Let's just say we have a lot in common (and no, not the voices, believe it or not, I'm comparitively normal).

Also, I have an irrational dislike of people in general, especially if they aren't me. Okay, yeah, I have a big ego, but I don't think that's a mental disorder...

04-13-2003, 11:53 AM	#1
Voltron McCheech Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,625	Institutions and the downfall of sanity I was thinking about my childhood the other day and how it was a living hell. All my life I've been bored with order and just wanted chaos and ultimate freedom from everything. I'm completely paranoid and my mental health is not that great. This can be documented in some of my early posts where I demanded that Leonardo stopped being a wuss and just cut some people down with his katanas. What I've noticed is that other people with these traits have at least one of two things in common. They went to Catholic School or were in Boy Scouts. My theory is that both of these places teach order and civil obedience so much that the mind loses all ability to give a damn about order and civil obedience. Most boy scouts I know are either goths or have the insatiable thrist to do malice and human blood. All catholic school kids I know are psychotic weirdos (including myself) and can hold conversations between at least 10 people all by themselves. Anyone else notice this?

04-13-2003, 04:14 PM	#7
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	You know Voltron, that's so true it isn't even funny... __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

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04-13-2003, 08:40 PM	#17
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	I have conversations with myself all the time. Mainly because I'm the only one who will listen. I do know someone who claims that the voices in their head talk to them on a regular basis... strangely enough, they're also one of my best friends. Let's just say we have a lot in common (and no, not the voices, believe it or not, I'm comparitively normal). Also, I have an irrational dislike of people in general, especially if they aren't me. Okay, yeah, I have a big ego, but I don't think that's a mental disorder... __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

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04-13-2003, 12:04 PM	#2
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,573	Yeah that's quite understandable, that's why i wish most parents would take care of how they rase their children, how they are raised will affect how they are and of course might even bring them some mental problems in the future if done wrong Then again it's hard to blame them, as there is no right way to raise someone and they probably wanted the best for you in the first place. Psychologists and/or psychiatrians might be able to fix them...or might not (since i believe once you grow up im unsure you can change)...i have no idea since i havent gone to any of them yet

04-13-2003, 12:55 PM	#3
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Hey now...I was in Boy Scouts for 7 years, yet I'm perfectly normal...hey, I just realized BS is short for Boy Scouts Let me tell you my life story so that you'll know how I balanced out: OK, my dad was still in the military (Air Force) when I was born. Add to that he's a Vietnam war veteran (he enlisted in the Navy right out of high school), the only values he knows of are the organized military discipline ones. He expected both me and my sister while we were growing up to: -keep things neat and tidy with NO clutter whatsoever, any clutter and we'd get our butts blistered -do things perfectly the first time without gaining experience first; the first time I ever mowed the lawn (10 years old), I kept going this way and that about a degree or so off. He chewed my head off as if I'd taken his car and drove drunk in it! See what I mean? -not socialize with the "spoiled-rotten yuppies", as he so eloquently put it[/sarcasm], when in fact a lot of the kids I grew up with were just normal ones that had maybe a few things beyond the bare essentials, but nothing too fancy. I have him and that value to thank for me not developing the correct social skills that I REALLY need to get by in the school I go to now... -like certain pop-cultural items according to what HE thought we should like, not us. I find that very ironic and hypocritical since he was a semi-hippie during the late 60s and early 70s, so he liked things against the conformity and what his dad (my grandpa, for the clueless) thought was immoral. My dad today doesn't like the idea that I listen to stuff such as Nine Inch Nails, Marylin Manson, and the like. Crazy. Now, I'll bet you're asking, "OK, so you're saying you've balanced out in a way, yet what you've put so far is making us think that you've listened to your dad all this time." Well, let me finish... Thankfully, the other parent of mine is just the exact opposite of the other. Why they even married is beyond me. On the other hand, my mom expected me and my sister to: -live life our own way. Plain and simple. Her philosophy is that the more choices we make, the more we learn, and therefore we've turned out better than most of our peers. And that's basically it. She never completely "shielded" anything from us, so therefore we have a better perception of reality and fantasy. Let me put it this way: I think it's a load of BS that parents today don't want their children exposed to certain scenes of violence/sex/language until they all of a sudden turn a certain age. I'm sorry, but that's not how it happens, people. You have to gradually expose them to that stuff in order for them to understand it. You can't just leave them in darkness and then out of nowhere shine the light on them at blinding intensity. You can't have them walk before they can crawl, figuratively speaking. Now I'm not saying everything is appropriate for all ages; I certainly wouldn't let a 5-year-old watch a Hustler Porno of the Month video at all. I'm just saying things like that aren't babysitters, just as long as they watch certain things WITH SUPERVISION, there's no problem with them watching it. I'm rambling, so....

04-13-2003, 01:17 PM	#4
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,573	Wow...i'd say something smart but it'd turn out to be stupid well congrats achieving normalness i dunno why voltron says being a boyscout can be bad for your mental health, it can't be that bad can it?

04-13-2003, 03:01 PM	#5
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	What was the point of this topic? I already know your crazy Voltron...no need for some big post about it...

04-13-2003, 03:04 PM	#6
That Matt Guy TROO KVLT Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: There Posts: 5,769	You must be pretty young if you're parents care about what kind of music you listen to.

04-13-2003, 06:00 PM	#10
Voltron McCheech Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,625	Tokka, I just felt that I needed to explain just a small part of why I'm a loon. There are many MANY other factors contributing to my mental ineptitude.

04-13-2003, 06:04 PM	#11
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Alright, but do you hear voices? And are you a skitzo? Cause those are some major things that can cause craziness...

04-13-2003, 06:12 PM	#12
Voltron McCheech Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,625	Truthfully? I have conversations with myself. I don't mean just to be weird, but meaningful conversations. But they usually wind up ending in childless name calling, and me never wanting to speak to me again.

04-13-2003, 06:19 PM	#13
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Alright...do you stay in your room a lot and don't like the public? Do you voices warn you of people who come to your house are bad even if they are only workers or something?

04-13-2003, 06:26 PM	#14
That Matt Guy TROO KVLT Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: There Posts: 5,769	It sounds like Voltron lives a lonely, sheltered life.

04-13-2003, 07:43 PM	#16
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	No offense Voltron, but Matt is crazier than you...but don't let that worry you, you are still #6 in funniest people on the boards...