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Old 11-03-2017, 09:21 AM   #1581
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Which turtle fights off the entire Foot Clan making his way across the city until he's finally surrounded by all of them PLUS Shredder in the original comics?

Which turtle fights off dozens upon dozens of Foot ninjas until Shredder bests him and tosses him off a roof?

Leo is a bad ass in his own right and he's often overlooked at just how skilled he really is.

He's dedicated, disciplined, and supposed to be a tactician. As far as what a "ninja" is in pop culture, Leo is the one that most often offers that. The stealth entry, the sword fighting imagery. Yet he's also the antithesis of a ninja at the same time. He's honestly a samurai at heart more than the "anything goes" ninja. Honor, fealty and dedication to his family rather than a Shogun, there's the spirituality of the samurai in Leo. Just as a samurai lived their life ready to die for their master, Leo seems like he would be willing to sacrifice himself for his brothers without hesitation.

That dedication is what sets him apart. While Mikey often plays video games or watches TV, Raph would rather go and do his own thing, and Don is tinkering with machines, Leonardo dedicates himself to honing his skills to absolute perfection and nothing less will do. Because if they aren't honed to perfection, he will not be prepared to defend his family.

I'd actually like to see them expand on "samurai Leo" in having him practicing more of the traditions of samurai; learning archery, reading poetry, learning calligraphy. Things that seem unnecessary but the discipline itself is why they're necessary to him.

Hell, a samurai nature would be interesting to have him butt heads with Splinter, who is training them to be NINJA, who were masters of subterfuge, espionage, assassination, and any means necessary tactics. Having Leo struggle to reconcile the two would be an avenue to explore and offer more depth that most don't consider exploring.
Congratulations for not being the kind of person I was speaking about in the first place.

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I could totally see Casey as a homosexual. (I'm joking)
Are you kidding?
Everything Casey Jones has ever done in any continuity has been an over compensation for one thing or another.

That dude is in the closet so deep he might as well be in Narnia.
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A lot just get older and older and angrier and angrier, all the while waiting for the world to bend to their whim, never, ever really being satisfied with any of the "victories" achieved at large and wondering why no one outside of whatever construct bubble they've placed themself [sic] (look, I did it!) in wants to mess with them.
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:25 AM   #1582
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Are you kidding?
Everything Casey Jones has ever done in any continuity has been an over compensation for one thing or another.

That dude is in the closet so deep he might as well be in Narnia.
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:29 AM   #1583
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New TMNT cartoon theme-song leaked

leaked audio from the new music theme.

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Old 11-03-2017, 09:32 AM   #1584
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I think we're ready for a trans April O'Neil.
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:33 AM   #1585
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How do you know we haven't already had one?
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:56 AM   #1586
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Let's not beat around bush and drool on the sausages - it's time to make Turtles gay!!!
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:58 AM   #1587
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My thoughts are that if anything ... this series might not even catch on and then we'll just have a random one off within the whole TMNT lore. The marketing is going to be super heavy those first few months, but who knows ... it might drop off if the eyeballs aren't there.

Look at all the different Batman cartoons there have been. Some have been fun, some have been real ****. I mean ... look at this Joker.



Hopefully if it's not worth anyone's time, it'll fade away quietly.
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:59 AM   #1588
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Let's not beat around bush and drool on the sausages - it's time to make Turtles gay!!!
Hey, if thatís really an itch you need scratched thereís always Adventures #∞. O.o
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Old 11-03-2017, 11:25 AM   #1589
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My thoughts are that if anything ... this series might not even catch on and then we'll just have a random one off within the whole TMNT lore. The marketing is going to be super heavy those first few months, but who knows ... it might drop off if the eyeballs aren't there.

Look at all the different Batman cartoons there have been. Some have been fun, some have been real ****. I mean ... look at this Joker.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/..._Batman_01.jpg

Hopefully if it's not worth anyone's time, it'll fade away quietly.
I actually enjoyed "The Batman" series
If you want to talk about a crappy Batman series just looked at the last one that got canned in the middle of the first season
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:07 PM   #1590
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Let's not beat around bush and drool on the sausages - it's time to make Turtles gay!!!
Mike's already a hedonist to enjoy the pleasures of the flesh.

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I actually enjoyed "The Batman" series
If you want to talk about a crappy Batman series just looked at the last one that got canned in the middle of the first season
Beware the Bat was cool. It was a damn shame that got cut as quick as it did.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:07 PM   #1591
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Hold on, now, nothing says Uncle Ben didn't exist. They're just not blatantly in your face about it like showing Batman's origin every new film.

"When you can do the things that I can, but you don't, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you." - Peter Park in Civil War. That pretty much explains his wrestler to hero origin due to Ben's death.

In Homecoming, he tells Ned he can't let Aunt May find out he's Spider-Man, not after everything she's been through. What tragedy would that be if not losing her husband?

I'll agree changing MJ, Flash, and the standard Spidey suit being Iron Spider suit without looking like Iron Spider was all a bit too much, though.
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Uncle Ben did exist in Homecoming. Just because he isn't mentioned by name, that doesn't mean he didn't exist. It was done that way because audiences are no doubt sick of the same old thing.

I'm pretty sure he didn't exist. As May isn't sad at all & Peter's "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" has been replaced with "I want to be an Avenger". Plus Tony was essentially giving him Ben's speech during the Ferry incident "What if somebody died, that's on you if they do'

Ben is the ENTIRE reason why he became Spider-Man & he couldn't even get so much as a mention in Homecoming.

So yeah, my point still stands about these reboots becoming more & more removed from the original source material. And the same thing that happened with Homecoming & MOS, is happening with TMNT. They're missing the point of why things were they were. Leo is the leader for a REASON. Raph is the hothead rebel for a reason. You shouldn't just change key, established, ICONIC elements because "You wanna be fresh" It's stupid & contrived in my opinion.

@Cubed I don't want to see Leo go on a "journey" to become the Leo we all know & love when that's the way he was when he was fricking introduced!
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:13 PM   #1592
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I'm pretty sure he didn't exist. As May isn't sad at all & Peter's "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" has been replaced with "I want to be an Avenger". Plus Tony was essentially giving him Ben's speech during the Ferry incident "What if somebody died, that's on you if they do'

Ben is the ENTIRE reason why he became Spider-Man & he couldn't even get so much as a mention in Homecoming.
Uncle Ben definitely existed; Peter wore his suit to the homecoming dance
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:13 PM   #1593
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I know it's a late reply, but I don't think that April will be an African American in this series. The voice actor doesn't need to be the same skin tone as the character they're voicing. Take Cree Summer and Dave Fennoy for example.
Its already been confirmed April is African American


Also to everyone in this thread we still haven't seen any character designs or a trailer so

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Old 11-03-2017, 12:24 PM   #1594
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:32 PM   #1595
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^yes! this! and change their masks to rainbow!
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:32 PM   #1596
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Nick's Raph was probably my favorite version of the character. Perfect mix between the sarcasm of the original cartoon one and the anger of all the other ones. 2k3 Raph became too much of a parody of a meathead as the series progressed, and the other Raph's toe the line between the two. He had many great episodes and moments too, even if the writers did have him change into weird forms in a lot of episodes.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:36 PM   #1597
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Am I the only one who is gonna wait and see How Raph does as Leader and Leo does in his new role instead of getting Triggered and upset? Leo will probably be leader later in the show.
Yes, you are the only one that comes to a forum to tell us you are not going to have a discussion about a subject.

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I know it's a late reply, but I don't think that April will be an African American in this series. The voice actor doesn't need to be the same skin tone as the character they're voicing. Take Cree Summer and Dave Fennoy for example.
If she wasnt going to be now she has to be because it's everywhere that she is.

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How about making him latino?
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I actually would have rathered black Casey over black April, but oh well.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:37 PM   #1599
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Another thing to keep in mind too ... if this show is loved by a younger audience, it does help keep the brand profitable in Viacom's eyes and might keep motivation for making more retro merchandise for us older fans. Yeah, while the current show might not be something you're dying to watch all the time but at least the IP would still be thriving in a way.

Sorry ... just got a lot of thoughts coming to mind. I think the main thing for me is just to start seeing some designs now.
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Also if a TMNT incarnation bombs Nick/Viacom does bury it. Look at what happened to the Platinum Dunes movies, they basically canceled them and buried them six feet under.

It's not like Nick will keep something around if it doesn't work.
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