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Old 11-10-2017, 11:01 PM   #81
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I admit it's a fairly well-crafted statement, if you're inclined to buy it. It's a typically narcissistic "I'm trying to sound sincere but still think I can get away with it" non-apology, which only confirms he hasn't learned much here. But let's be real -- he's been confronted with this several times in the past, for years now, so nobody should buy the idea that he's just NOW realizing the scope of what he did. I want to hope the rest of his statement is true, that he's legitimately remorseful and wants to change, but I don't buy for one second that he didn't realize the impact of his actions long before now, and he's actively dismissed and avoided dealing with it until he had no choice. So to hell with him.

It sucks, I'd been a pretty big fan both of his work and other comics' work that he's promoted and helped release, so it's massively disappointing to see who he really is. All of his current projects have fallen apart over this already. If his career's over, he deserves it.
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:07 PM   #82
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The thing about apologies is you can never do enough, people will always criticize whether you own it or not, no matter how you choose your words people will flip them. It seems the best way to handle the situation is to not say anything about it.
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:08 PM   #83
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Ratner has always been a disgusting piece of crap. His behaviour has been talked about openly for years. It's just sad it's taken this long for any of it to stick, and that so many victims were made to fear speaking out for so long.
Yeah, Ratner doesn't surprise me. Actually, half of the people drug forward are about who we expected. Singer's had allegations shadowing him for a while before it finally blew up. Louis C.K. surprised some people, but there were rumors and anecdotes floating around for a while, the people he harassed just didn't want to go on the record for the usual reasons.

I didn't expect Kevin Spacey, though, but there may have been rumblings about his behavior I just hadn't heard about for whatever reason.
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:08 PM   #84
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Damn. Who is next? .
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:31 PM   #85
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Lock him up! LOCK THEM ALL UP.
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Old 11-11-2017, 12:03 AM   #86
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Or to say:

I failed miserably.
I'm sorry.
I have learned from my mistakes and won't do that again.

It's not rocket science.
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Old 11-11-2017, 12:37 AM   #87
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George Takei accused of sexually assaulting model



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Old 11-11-2017, 12:40 AM   #88
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Old 11-11-2017, 12:58 AM   #89
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This one surprises me.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:33 AM   #90
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But...he's gay.

So he wasn't gay back in 1981? I thought being homosexual wasn't a choice? Or so I'm told?
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:45 AM   #91
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But...he's gay.

So he wasn't gay back in 1981? I thought being homosexual wasn't a choice? Or so I'm told?
Can you read, Cubed? The accuser was a man.

Also do we need a new topic for every one of these accusations? I mean fuggin' Ratner and C.K. even get two of their own. It's gonna keep happening so much that there's gonna be nothing else in here.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:47 AM   #92
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Oh, the thread title said, "model" so I assumed it was a female.

I mean...are there male models?
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Oh, the thread title said, "model" so I assumed it was a female.

I mean...are there male models?
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Old 11-11-2017, 02:02 AM   #94
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Oh, the thread title said, "model" so I assumed it was a female.

I mean...are there male models?
Er.... Cubed?
I'm guessing you are joking but just in case... the guys on the billboards advertising cologne, the guys in the department store brochures modelling the clothes?

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Er.... Cubed?
I'm guessing you are joking, you know, the guys on the billboards advertising cologne, the guys in the department store brochures modelling the clothes?
The horror of situation, that he might be NOT joking.
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Old 11-11-2017, 08:44 AM   #96
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The thing about apologies is you can never do enough, people will always criticize whether you own it or not, no matter how you choose your words people will flip them. It seems the best way to handle the situation is to not say anything about it.
That's because there's no way to apologize at this point. He's spent years dodging these questions and actively trying to cover them up with the help of his manager. His "apology" rings totally hollow because his actions prove what his real priorities are: to protect himself and let his victims live with the consequences of his actions.

If he meant what he said, he would have said it years ago when the questions started. That says it all.
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Think of all he could accomplish if he wasn't feigning ignorance online all day.
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:43 AM   #98
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There's no evidence this occured, not saying it couldn't have happened but I wont take it as truth unless there's evidence to support it.
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Old 11-11-2017, 12:13 PM   #99
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There's no evidence this occured, not saying it couldn't have happened but I wont take it as truth unless there's evidence to support it.
I wish this was a rule of thumb for every situation. These days, media report of allegation equates to fact of public opinion.
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Old 11-11-2017, 12:46 PM   #100
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I can see both sides of this story being true.
The man in question feeling victimized, while George believing he had consent.

Consent should be something that's relatively clear cut and well defined in theory, but in practice it's far less so.

That's one of the reasons I'm a big fan and supporter of the whole Yes means Yes movement. (ie: that the default answer to an unanswered question is No.)
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