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Doesn't bother me 88 84.62%
It's kind of stupid 10 9.62%
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:31 PM   #1
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What do you think about different skin-colored TMNT?

Let's forget the bandanna color debate, that's a separate matter. But when I think about it, I think the different skin-colored TMNT that seems to be being pushed as the norm is even more ridiculous and insulting to one's intelligence than that whole matter.

Red-earred sliders don't have different skin colors. And even if there were, if these guys are supposed to be brothers, from the same Mama Turtle...? I think in IDW they're supposed to be sea turtles but even with those I'm pretty sure there's no disparity within a single batch of eggs.

It's like literally, even factoring out the always-asinine letters on the belts thing (and nothing is more insulting than having the letters on the belts AND different skin colors), TPTB are telling you, "We don't trust you to be able to recognize which Turtle is which because of the weapons they're carrying, or their body types, or even their individualized rainbow bandanna colors... we need to give them different skin colors so you can really, really tell them apart."
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:59 PM   #2
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Uh-huh, why do have such a problem with trying to make them seem less like clones of each other? Can't you accept that most people get confused by four visually identical characters? There's a reason Ben Reilly dyed his hair and Evil Spock had a beard.

As for the skin colors, they're mutants. Who cares if red-earred sliders don't have different skin colors in real-life, they don't really resemble that species after the mutation. They're not always red-earred sliders either, in the IDW series they're sea turtles and in the 4Kids cartoon it appears they were tortoises.
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:01 PM   #3
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Or to give them more personality? I like the newer designs where they're pretty different-looking. I don't think it's hand-holding.
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:31 PM   #4
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I doubt it was designed to make it easier to tell them apart in comics and film as much as making the toys look as different as possible so that people were more likely to buy all four of them.

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Old 07-26-2015, 04:31 PM   #5
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I've always been a fan of it. I like the red-masked Playmates-skinned look. Best of both worlds IMO.
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:33 PM   #6
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It kinda is a little bit hand-holding. Like Andrew said, it is kind of pandering. There's logically no reason at all they'd be different colors. Whether people like it or not isn't the issue. The point he's making is that realistically, it makes no sense at all, especially IF they're supposed to all be related.

It kinda doesn't bother me, but it's definitely a little odd. Anything, ever, where it's like, "So, why'd they do that?" "Eh, no reason. Just Looks Cool." I kinda hate that. I get annoyed by anything that can't justify itself. "Why's Batman have a thousand piped seams all over his costume now, even in places there wouldn't logically be seams?" "Eh, just looks cool." "Why'd that one wrestler do like 6 flips when he jumped off the top rope onto the other guy, why didn't he just drop an elbow on his sternum?" "Eh, just looks cool." I hate that sh*t. Not always, like, violently, but it's like, at least have a reason for things beyond "Why not?"

In this case I kind of don't care and I can live with it, but it's not how I personally would have done it. I always picture them the same color by default as there's no reason at all that they wouldn't be.
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:34 PM   #7
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The skin tones don't bother me, I mean they are mutants so I don't expect them to be 100% similar to any species of turtle. The initials on the their belt buckles was like a kiddy super hero thing that I don't expect to see outside of the original cartoon. I do like seeing them with individual gear but I wasn't a fan of the costumes they all had in the 2014 movie, it was too busy for me.
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Or to give them more personality?
The color of one's skin denotes personality? That sounds pretty racist.
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The color of one's skin denotes personality? That sounds pretty racist.
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Old 07-26-2015, 05:28 PM   #10
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The color of one's skin denotes personality? That sounds pretty racist.
We're talking about cartoon mutant turtles written by not-the-best writers*. It's not a new concept.



*To clarify, I thought this was the 2k3 cartoon thread. I do not think the comics are poorly written. Sorry Paul&IDW stafflurkers. :p

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Old 07-26-2015, 05:37 PM   #11
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You know, Hulk Hogan has pretty dark skin himself...
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I think that's why George Foreman's still his friend and forgave him.
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I think that's why George Foreman's still his friend and forgave him.
Now that's racist. :-X

(I had to look that up, actually. HH dropped a racial slur in a podcast and now WWE cut their ties with him? I'm surprised I didn't hear more about it.)


Getting back on topic, the turtles don't really look much like any specific turtle species to begin with so that argument against color variations doesn't really hold water. I've heard some version are based on based on RES, but have none of their features, aside from the physical turtle-y ones (Not to mention that I'm pretty sure there is some color variation among RES). I still think the best canon rational is that the mutagen has all sorts of weird properties that would mess with how they look.
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I usually excel at extremely dated jokes and references, so I figured I'd be topical for a change.
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Old 07-26-2015, 06:45 PM   #16
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I like that the Turtles have different skin color, cause y'know what. Turtles do have different skin color, it may not be as apparent for someone who's not used to seeing turtles often, but they do. Markings, color, size, shape, it's all unique.

One of my favorite designs have different skin color and body build on the Turtles, and that's the OotS version off the Turtles, not only that, but they also have more proper turtle markings which I'm a huge fan off. As they are supposed to be Red-Eared Sliders, which are not a very "mundane" colored turtle, they can be quite colorful in their youth.

And the vintage Playmates skin color paired up with the red masks is a very solid look too. I'm a sucker for Don's dark olive, almost brown skin color.
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Old 07-26-2015, 07:01 PM   #17
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Personally, I don't like how each turtle has a drastically different skin tone than the other three. Or even when Mikey and Raph are darker green, and Leo and Don are lighter green.

I've always assumed four baby turtles from the same mother turtle, and these guys are TURTLES, not kittens. They should look pretty much the same.

And as a little kid, I was always confused by how Don was brown not green. I'd never seen any brown-skinned turtles. At least the other three were shades of green...
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The thing I always wonder is do we really know that the Turtles were from the same clutch of eggs? I mean they're pet shop turtles. Born and breed on a turtle farm. Can we say with certainty they all came from the same mama slider?
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The thing I always wonder is do we really know that the Turtles were from the same clutch of eggs? I mean they're pet shop turtles. Born and breed on a turtle farm. Can we say with certainty they all came from the same mama slider?
Not really, because we do only first see them in a pet shop glass bowl.

But again, they are all the same breed of turtle. And turtles don't have the genetic diversity or cosmetic diversity or whatever the hell gives you a litter of kittens all black and white, calico, orange tabby, everything under the sun all from one mama.
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It doesn't bother me. I have a different skin tone then my 3 siblings and the 4 of us come from the same 2 parents...so why can't 4 mutant turtles whose father is a mutant rat have different skin tones?
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