Best 88 Season episode?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I haven't the 88 Season for quite a while, so i voted for what was my most memorable episode, which usually the better ones, that stick in you're mind. Don't think anybody's done this poll before. Lets see a lot of votes so we can get a clear picture of the best, the ok, and worst episodes of the season.

It was between Mean Machines, Case of The Killer Pizzas, Enter the Fly, Curse of Evil Eye or Return of the Technodrome.

I just had to go for Return of the Technodrome! I think it's likely it will come out tops!!! :D

[Barkworm]

I voted for "Enter: The Fly" spontaneously. I got that ep together with "Case of the Killer Pizzas" on VHS for X-Mas 1990 (I was almost 8 ) and was already scared when I saw that it had a "12 years and over" rating. :lol:
The episode was pretty violent for the old series with Krang trying to kill Baxter and April being poisoned.

[Shreddette]

I love Curse of the Evil Eye.

Shredder showed some pretty cool moves and fearlessness (especially since he had no helmet!) in that show, especially after the turtles got their asses kicked so easily by Baxters blob monster!

[MrPliggins]

If I had to say the worst, I would say "New York's Shiniest". I'm not too fond of robot cops. Or turtle-shaped fireworks.

[Barkworm]

If I had to say the worst, I would say "New York's Shiniest". I'm not too fond of robot cops. Or turtle-shaped fireworks.
I loved REX 1. :D

[DrSpengler]

Hmmm...

A tie between Enter the Fly and Case of the Killer Pizzas. Those aree two episodes I remember quite fondly from about 10 or more years ago.

I saw Return of the Shredder and New York's Shiniest recently. I thought Return of the Shredder was pretty good (especially with Peter "Optimus Prime" Cullen as the voice of the leader of the Crooked Ninja Turtle Gang :) ). New York's Shiniest...not so much.

[Utrom]

I loved this season! I have every episode on tape, and like all of them.

But if I had to choose one, I would have to pick "Return of the Technodrome" because it had everything you could ask for in a TMNT episode and a RED Krang!

[Orochi Chimera]

It would be hard for me to pick only one episode. I remember some better than others.

[Spitfire]

Case of the killer pizzas! I dont remember many of the other ones but that one was the best. Why does eveyone like Return of the technodrome so much? Im postive Ive seen it maybe I havnt :(

[KROW]

I loved them all. But the ones that really stand out for me is "Return of The Shredder", "The Incredible Shrinking Turtles", and "Enter: The Fly".

[Leonardo_the_sword_master]

Enter: the fly was really good. thats my favorite one so far in 88.

[Kazari]

I hated Baxter as the fly so I picked "Curse of the Evil Eye" I always loved the music in the episode especially when they have to battle all the monsters that Baxter creates with the helmet.

[GK Punk]

Killer Pizzas was always one of my favorite episodes, and still is today.

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REturn of the TECHNODROME IS BY FAR my most fav season 88 ep. THAT EP IS # ONE WITH ME so far. IT was the best with all the action, being one with the technodrome returning and backround music etc. Return of the fly is MY 2nd FAV BECAUSE IT WAS A LANDMARK EP AND THAT KRANG EXECUTED KRANG BECAUSE HE SAW NO USE FOR A HUMAN and bebop and rocksteady are back,.

[Leonardo_the_sword_master]

Killer Pizzas was always one of my favorite episodes, and still is today.

yeah Killer pizzas is my second favorite in 88, Ener: the fly and Killer pizzas are the only ones i ahve seen for 88.

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Killer Pizzas was always one of my favorite episodes, and still is today.

yeah Killer pizzas is my second favorite in 88, Ener: the fly and Killer pizzas are the only ones i ahve seen for 88.

Killer Pizzas was probably my 4th fav. My 3rd fav was either curse of the evil eye or mean machines. I quized 10 people not too long ago about who turned into a fly and they said baxter and 2 of them mentioned the killer pizzas ep. That ep is one of the best though of season 88 and was like the title of a horror movie. I wish I had it on tape since now that is the only ep of season 2 I do not have on tape and I have seen the ep many times.

[Leonardo_the_sword_master]

Killer Pizzas was always one of my favorite episodes, and still is today.

yeah Killer pizzas is my second favorite in 88, Ener: the fly and Killer pizzas are the only ones i ahve seen for 88.

Killer Pizzas was probably my 4th fav. My 3rd fav was either curse of the evil eye or mean machines. I quized 10 people not too long ago about who turned into a fly and they said baxter and 2 of them mentioned the killer pizzas ep. That ep is one of the best though of season 88 and was like the title of a horror movie. I wish I had it on tape since now that is the only ep of season 2 I do not have on tape and I have seen the ep many times.

i ahve the tape has epasodes in 88 and it has Enter the fly and killer pizzas.

[Kazari]

Yeah I like Killer Pizzas but I dont love it! LOL I like "Invasion of the Turtle Snatchers" and "Night of the Dark Turtle" those are my 2 favorite over all TMNT old show episode pre red sky!

[Jephael]

"Invasion of the Punk Frogs" was always a favorite of mine, though I sorta wish they only had 2 or 3 frogs instead of 4.

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"Invasion of the Punk Frogs" was always a favorite of mine, though I sorta wish they only had 2 or 3 frogs instead of 4.

But there are 4 turtles and having two frogs would make them more easily beaten, so having 4 frogs is just right because of having 4 on 4.

Correction: for the poll the title catwoman from dimension X is wrong. it is catwoman from Channel 6.

by the way www.epguides.com say that NEw york's shiniest, Spliner No more and Teengers from Dimension X aired after return of the technodrome. THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!! and I recording of season 2 eps( the tape label is 1988-1989) and the order of my eps on that tape are REturn of the shredder, Incredible shrinking turtles, It came from benieth these sewers (the one with the plant), the mean machines, curse of the eye, (I know Killer Pizzas airs after curse of the eye and before enter the fly, BUT I DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT, HAVE IT ON THE TAPE), Enter the fly, Invasion of the punk Frogs, Catwoman from Channel 6, return of the technodrome, NEwyork's shinest, Splinter No More and TEenagers from Dimension X. But who knows when that was recorded since the tape says 1988-1989, it could have been after the first airings.

[Kazari]

I never did like the frogs LOL

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I never did like the frogs LOL


well the frogs were okey, that they were a bunch of a whinny little woosies and easiler fell for shredder's tricks in their first ep, when shredder said who the enemy was. They only appeared in a few others. they appeared in leatherhead:terror of the swamp.

[Kazari]

and in the Mutant Hunter episode. And Napoleon: Colossus of the Swamp. Well not all of them but one or the other!

[MrPliggins]

The worst frogs episode IMO was Big Bug Blunder. I didn't like this episode except for the short Metalhead cameo :)
The frogs didn't bother me much in Invasion of the Punk Frogs, but they really brought down later episodes like "Leatherhead Terror of the Swamp" (a farfetched episode anyway, i guess)...

[Kazari]

I liked Big Blunder but I didn't like any episodes that didnt have Barry Gordon playing the voice of Don

[DrSpengler]

I'm just wondering why they never had the Punk Frogs try to eat Baxter. It would've been a far better send-off than "locking him away in another dimension...again".

[GK Punk]

I'm just wondering why they never had the Punk Frogs try to eat Baxter. It would've been a far better send-off than "locking him away in another dimension...again".

Heh, wouldn't that have been completly awesome?

[Coola Yagami]

I wonder why they were called Punk Frogs to begin with... They dress like tourists and talk like Gomer Pyle....

[Kazari]

LOL I would love to see them try to eat Baxter! But were they in any episodes where Baxter was present as the fly? I can't really remember! I know that Genghis was in Big Bug Blunder and was trying to eat the giant fly.

[DrSpengler]

I wonder why they were called Punk Frogs to begin with... They dress like tourists and talk like Gomer Pyle....

"PYLE!"

"Shazam!"

[KROW]

I wonder why they were called Punk Frogs to begin with... They dress like tourists and talk like Gomer Pyle....


Maybe that's what punks from Florida look like. AND sound like.

[Kazari]

Way too much on the southern dialect :P

[Jephael]

DONATELLO: "Fellas, this southern courtesy is abit much."
RAPHAEL: "Yea, it'll be the de-ath of me!"

[KROW]

Heh. Weren't they from SOUTH Florida? :lol:

[Kazari]

Oh yeah! LOL

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LOL I would love to see them try to eat Baxter! But were they in any episodes where Baxter was present as the fly? I can't really remember! I know that Genghis was in Big Bug Blunder and was trying to eat the giant fly.

That would have been funny. KEEP LOCKING HIM INTO A DIMENSION WOULD NOT GUARENTEE HE IS GONE SINE HE KEPT GETTING OUT, but the spider in bye bye fly attacked him.

[DrSpengler]

That would have been funny. KEEP LOCKING HIM INTO A DIMENSION WOULD NOT GUARENTEE HE IS GONE SINE HE KEPT GETTING OUT, but the spider in bye bye fly attacked him.

Which he somehow miraculously survived.

What bugged me (for every laugh I hear I shall kill you) is that the Turtles never ONCE tried to help Baxter. The toss-him-away-into-a-random-dimension strategy was all they ever used.

I thinkt he episode was "Landlord of the Flies", Donatello says "keep him busy, guys" then comes back with a portable dimensional gateway generator and just blasts him into another dimension.

Don: You're spending the 7th inning stretch IN ANOTHER DIMENSION!!!

Raph: How come he gets all the good lines?

Baxter: Noooooo!

The only reason I'm bringing up that line of dialogue is because I actually rememebr it froma decade ago and this may be my only cahcne to write it.

Anyway, aren't the Turtles pretty heartless? I mean, [i[killing[/i] the poor guy is one thing, but zapping him to some crazy dimension? That has GOT to suck. I mean, just look at some of the dimensions he got blasted to? There was the one inhabited by giant spiders (how he survived, I don't know) and then the worst one, the blue dimension that was pretty much just a 10' X 10' box (how he didn't starve to death, I don't know). I'm sure there were others, but that's all I remember.

Jesus, getting eaten by the Punk Frogs would've been a favor.

[Kazari]

True but they know Baxter is evil, why would they help him?

[DrSpengler]

True but they know Baxter is evil, why would they help him?

But he wasn't evil. Not at first.

He was just a down-on-his-luck scientist with a brilliant invention to exterminate the city's rat problem. But no one would buy the Mousers or pay him any respect until Shredder came along. So he built the Mouser Mother-Computer for him, not knowing he was an evil overlord (though the mutants and weaponry should've been a top-off). He just thought he had "A real thing about rats". He goes home and Shredder orders the Foot Soldiers to kill him. No witnesses. The TMNT "save" him and then tie him to a poll and cross-examine him. Raph even puts his sai to Baxter's throat. They then call the police and Baxter gets taken to an asylum where he goes completely nuts. Probably because the doctor's keep telling him "There are no such things as giant turtles" when he really saw them. Then Shredder comes and breaks him free but doesn't give him much of an option about teaming up. It all ends with Krang ordering his executiona nd Baxter getting mutated into a fly monster. All Baxter wanted was revenge on both Shredder and the TMNT for turning him into a monster.

If you think about it, Baxter's predicament is partly the fault of the TMNT. He was always kind of an "innocent victim". He just wanted someone to respect his work. Instead he gets driven insane, mutated into a freak and locked away in another dimension for all eternity.

Life's funny like that, right?

[Kazari]

True and he DID go crazy! LOL

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That would have been funny. KEEP LOCKING HIM INTO A DIMENSION WOULD NOT GUARENTEE HE IS GONE SINE HE KEPT GETTING OUT, but the spider in bye bye fly attacked him.

Which he somehow miraculously survived.

What bugged me (for every laugh I hear I shall kill you) is that the Turtles never ONCE tried to help Baxter. The toss-him-away-into-a-random-dimension strategy was all they ever used.

I thinkt he episode was "Landlord of the Flies", Donatello says "keep him busy, guys" then comes back with a portable dimensional gateway generator and just blasts him into another dimension.

Don: You're spending the 7th inning stretch IN ANOTHER DIMENSION!!!

Raph: How come he gets all the good lines?

Baxter: Noooooo!

The only reason I'm bringing up that line of dialogue is because I actually rememebr it froma decade ago and this may be my only cahcne to write it.

Anyway, aren't the Turtles pretty heartless? I mean, [i[killing[/i] the poor guy is one thing, but zapping him to some crazy dimension? That has GOT to suck. I mean, just look at some of the dimensions he got blasted to? There was the one inhabited by giant spiders (how he survived, I don't know) and then the worst one, the blue dimension that was pretty much just a 10' X 10' box (how he didn't starve to death, I don't know). I'm sure there were others, but that's all I remember.

Jesus, getting eaten by the Punk Frogs would've been a favor.

I NEVER SAW REVENGE OF THE FLY, but I READ THE EPISODE REVIEWS OF IT FROM www.ninjaturtles.com and they could have used the retromutegen ray to turn baxter back, and then baxter would have been sent to the asylum again, except under more secure lockup. Enter the fly was his last appearance as a human.

[Kazari]

Yeah true true but at the time I am not sure if Don had that ray yet or not. I know he has the antimutagen ray in Red Sky but you never saw Baxter in Red Sky

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Now back to the season 2 most fav ep, what was all of your most favorite eps of the eye of sarnoth saga, mine was curse of the eye because of the battle in taj mahal and baxter trying to betray shredder adn that wimpy blodget trying to get the helmet after vernon fired him for having the newsvan go into the water. I had seen the incredible shrinking turtles ep hundreds of times.

[Kazari]

I hated Blodget or whatever his name was! He was soo annnoooying!! I like the monsters at the end that Baxter creates and you get to see Shredder's head without the full helmet!

[MrPliggins]

Turning him into a fly really messed up his mind. Shredder easily can convince Baxter of anything. I don't think he was evil, but when he became a fly he was more gullible to evil notions put forth by Shredder.

The Frogs and Baxter never met, but that would have been one interesting episode. I wonder what that episode would be called.

[Kazari]

I am not sure I can just bust out laughing seeing the frogs chase Baxter.

[MrPliggins]

Yeah Curse of the Evil Eye is cool too...I personally like the nifty gun Baxter has that shoots out arms. But Baxter looks like a goofball with Shredder's helmet on. Face it, you have to be wearing the armor too for it to look cool.

Blodgett is a little weird, yeah. He kinda reminded me of the nerdy dude from Ghostbusters. Funny, at the end, he gets his job back, but we never see him again!

[Kazari]

Yeah I couldn't stand him!
Almost as bad as that guy in the episode "Name that Toon."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Return of the Technodrome my first best.

Then my second best is Case of the Killer Pizzas. Good idea about aliens breaking out of eggs when the pizzas getting cooked. :D

3rd fav is between Eye of Sarnov and Enter the Fly. Season 88 was clever, having it's own mini series of 3 or 4 episodes within it about the eye of Sarnov!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Enter the Fly actually featured the twin towers in New York. The cartoon didn't usually show actual New York landmarks that often.

[Jet-ski_Ninja]

Return of the TEchnodrome it's the best one! :tthumbsu: :khappy: :shredder: :thumbsup: :tsmile:

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Enter the Fly actually featured the twin towers in New York. The cartoon didn't usually show actual New York landmarks that often.


If they showed enter the fly 3 years ago they would have had to cut out the twin towers.

Good thing they showed the ep back in 1988 and last in 1996(which was when the series was taken off USA)

[JDavis]

Well, the WTC towers were also involved in the season one episode "Hotrodding Teenagers From Dimension X", as the Technodrome was parked under the twin towers when they opened the portal to Dimension X.

[Jephael]

Oh, and who can't forget that scene in "The Big Blowout" when Krang used the antenna from the south tower to open that super-sized dimensional portal?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I would say "Enter the Fly" for what was a pretty shocking twist by standards of the cartoon, all around good character interactions, and a really kickass battle at the end with pretty high stakes behind it (April being close to death).

Your past has come to haunt you, Cylons.

[Wesley]

I went with “The Mean Machines”. I always loved the part where the Turtles face off against the machines at the construction site and my current signature is taken from this episode.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I would say "Enter the Fly" for what was a pretty shocking twist by standards of the cartoon, all around good character interactions, and a really kickass battle at the end with pretty high stakes behind it (April being close to death).

Your past has come to haunt you, Cylons.

Hilarious. Not my posts, but the other Raph/Attack my account got merged with when I came back.

I may not have been original back then, but I know the difference between "its" and "it's". #grammarnazi

[CyberCubed]

I may not have been original back then, but I know the difference between "its" and "it's". #grammarnazi

But this thread is from 2004, did you know that back then? You must have still been in High School back then.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

But this thread is from 2004, did you know that back then? You must have still been in High School back then.

Believe me, pal, I've known the difference between "its and it's" and "your and you're" since fvcking grade school. That's some basic sh!t.

[MikeandRaph87]

Holy high school days, Batman.:tcool:

While the Punk Frogs are my favorite allies I would argue that Enter: The Fly had a little of everything that made the 1987 cartoon so great. It also had real stakes involved.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Hilarious. Not my posts, but the other Raph/Attack my account got merged with when I came back.

I may not have been original back then, but I know the difference between "its" and "it's". #grammarnazi

Or perhaps that fun loving guy from the distant past is actually Cylon's alter ego, buried deep inside the mind of that big man who's too grown for the original cartoon (and doesn't make spelling errors).

Maybe the snap of a finger could bring out the old Cylons, who knows.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Or perhaps that fun loving guy from the distant past is actually Cylon's alter ego, buried deep inside the mind of that big man who's too grown for the original cartoon (and doesn't make spelling errors).

Maybe the snap of a finger could bring out the old Cylons, who knows.

Eh, believe what you will.

[pferreira]

Difficult choices as there are a number of really strong ones here. I think Invasion of the Punk Frogs is great with the whole Shredder setting up both TMNT and his mutants a great twist but Enter: The Fly is definitely the best well written. The finale I almost chose as well. But seriously, why did a good number of people go for Case of the Killer Pizzas? I remember it being one of the worst from that season.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

But seriously, why did a good number of people go for Case of the Killer Pizzas? I remember it being one of the worst from that season.

I think that can be attributed to the premise of the episode which is absurd, yet alot of fun.

Also, Shredder and the turtles actually team up in that episode which I think almost never happened.

[Prowler]

Wow this thread is old.

As a kid I loved the Eye of Sarnoth arc. Shame that, at the end, it turned out to be meaningless. But the arc looks strange when you look at the series as a whole. Maybe the writers expected to do more mini-arcs like that? The first season was also one mini-arc. And then you have Return of Shredder and right afterwards a 4 episode arc. I guess it was a good strategy because it hooked viewers to the show early on?

As for the poll... I'm gonan vote for Return of the Technodrome. It had a very show finale vibe to it and also a very Star Wars vibe to it as well. That moment where Splinter stops on his tracks and tells the Turtles he sense Shredder and also Shredder doing the same thing to Bebop, Rocksteady and the foot soldiers... it fascinated me when I was a kid. It added a lot of tension to the thing.

Difficult choices as there are a number of really strong ones here. I think Invasion of the Punk Frogs is great with the whole Shredder setting up both TMNT and his mutants a great twist but Enter: The Fly is definitely the best well written. The finale I almost chose as well. But seriously, why did a good number of people go for Case of the Killer Pizzas? I remember it being one of the worst from that season.

I think that can be attributed to the premise of the episode which is absurd, yet alot of fun.

Also, Shredder and the turtles actually team up in that episode which I think almost never happened.
It's a very iconic episode. And its premise is absurd but yet pretty creative. Also, the Turtles loved pizza, so it made sense to pull something like that. One of the most memorable episodes of the series, no doubt.

[pferreira]

I think that can be attributed to the premise of the episode which is absurd, yet alot of fun.Strangely when I think of Season 2 it's one episode I most likely forget exists. Absurd was never in TMNT's favour though as they sometimes took it too far yet some fans think Cowabunga Shredhead is one of the series best episodes when I consider it one of the worst because it's just so stupid. :lol:

It's those kinds of episodes that give ammunition to the FW haters but oh well. :P