View Full Version : Why wasnt Krang in the Movie?
dmbturtle
07-28-2004, 01:50 PM
IF THE MOVIE WAS based somewhat on the cartoon, I mean it was and it wasnt but the pizza...april being a reporter.. why couldnt they go the cartoon route with krang and the technodrome? when i was little someone (friend in school) saw it and told me krang was in it.. they lied and i was so upset lol.. i think that would have been much much cooler
Jephael
07-28-2004, 01:55 PM
They were going to make Prof. Perry and the other TGRI folks turn out to be Utroms in the sequal, just like Mr. Mortu and the TCRI folks are Utroms in the current series. The only thing is, I don't think the director much cared for that idea.
Zelda
07-28-2004, 02:12 PM
dude, if they had turned out to be Utroms they could've made a really awesome next movie isntead of 3 as it was... (not that it was horrible XD I still have it memorized! But could've been better).
WEll in the first movie they made the series closer to the comics. I heard that jordan perry in the 2nd movie was going to open his stomach and reveal to be a utrom, but it was cut. The utrom would not have been krang.
Jephael
07-28-2004, 05:07 PM
Yea, that's basically what I mentioned before.
Anarky
07-28-2004, 06:17 PM
I could imagine, that, besides it was more likely to see Utroms, Krang would have been very difficult to make. I mean, if you imagine Krang in real life you'd certainly wouldn't imagine a compact pink ball with eyes...
Coola Yagami
07-28-2004, 09:57 PM
the cartoon was more popular than the comics back then. kids would be wondering what the hell Krang was doing in some geeky guy's stomach and why wasn't he working for shredder.
Krangfan
07-29-2004, 12:00 AM
That would've been neat, and yes, Krang would have looked awesome! I mean, they had the Jim Henson Creature Shop working on the first two movies, they can do anything :wink: :D :)
Shreddette
07-29-2004, 12:13 AM
I agree, I wanted Krang to be in the first movie too and was very disappointed it wasn't more true to the Old Toon.
A Jim Henson Krang would rawk.
Leonardo_the_sword_master
07-29-2004, 12:18 AM
thats sucks that the Utroms where spose to be in the 2nd movie and it wasn't, well if they make a second movie i guess it'll have Utroms.
Anarky
07-29-2004, 05:01 AM
the cartoon was more popular than the comics back then. kids would be wondering what the hell Krang was doing in some geeky guy's stomach and why wasn't he working for shredder.
wasn't shredder working for Krang?
ZariusTwo
07-29-2004, 10:12 AM
the cartoon was more popular than the comics back then. kids would be wondering what the hell Krang was doing in some geeky guy's stomach and why wasn't he working for shredder.
wasn't shredder working for Krang?
No, Shredder was working WITH Krang
Anarky
07-29-2004, 12:58 PM
wasn't shredder the one that carried out EVERY single stupid plan of Krang? Plus: In the german version Shredder refers to Krang as "sie" which is a polite form to refer to somebody.
ZariusTwo
07-29-2004, 03:43 PM
wasn't shredder the one that carried out EVERY single stupid plan of Krang? Plus: In the german version Shredder refers to Krang as "sie" which is a polite form to refer to somebody.
Oh come on, ALL dubs of an original cartoon are never faithful
Anarky
07-29-2004, 03:44 PM
Dang, I hoped you wouldn't come up with that point... :D
Krang wasn't in the movie because the animatronics for the turtles were trying enough. It was a revolutionary movie effect at the time and to add a talking brain to four humanoid turtles and a rat would over-balance the movie budget. New Line most likely didn't want to take any chances.
Tetsu Deinonychus
07-30-2004, 01:06 AM
Plus, the first movie is based more on the original comics which did not have Krang.
Buslady
07-30-2004, 05:57 PM
The movie was never based on the cartoon, only similarities were the pizza thing and color bandanas...that's it.
Krang never existed in the comics(mirage).....
thank god krang wasn't in it...
Tetsu Deinonychus
07-30-2004, 08:34 PM
The movie was never based on the cartoon, only similarities were the pizza thing and color bandanas...that's it.
Krang never existed in the comics(mirage).....
thank god krang wasn't in it...Right, and I'm awlfully glad Krang wasn't in the movie too :nod: (as much as he did ROCK the Archie Comic though :wink: )
The movie was never based on the cartoon, only similarities were the pizza thing and color bandanas...that's it.
Krang never existed in the comics(mirage).....
thank god krang wasn't in it...Right, and I'm awlfully glad Krang wasn't in the movie too :nod: (as much as he did ROCK the Archie Comic though :wink: )
But as far as you mentioning similarities, April was a reporter just like the cartoon in the movies, except it was for channel 6 and not 3.
As far as you mentioning, krang not being in the comics. The utroms in the new cartoon, based from the comics, did not have names except mortu and one utrom was named krang, but that was probably not in the comics. They should have named the utrom in the 2nd movie, if they had shown it, Krang because the cartoon was airing at the time.
Tetsu Deinonychus
07-31-2004, 12:07 AM
Maybe, but no Utroms were in the first movie, and April's reporter job from the cartoon was used because otherwise they'd have to work Baxter and the Mousers into the movie.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
07-31-2004, 04:56 PM
When i first saw the 1st Turtle's movie, i was dissapointed that there was no Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady, and i could'nt understand why as i didn't know about the comics.
I thought rather avidly and excitedly, that if a second movie came along, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady would be the bad guys. Ithought that Shredder getting squashed in the crusher was suppoesed to make way for the other 3 in the second way.
Then, at one point, i thought, yeah, maybe it's one major villain at a time, so they can make more movies, that would create more money at the cinema's. So i thought it was gonna be Bebop and Rocksteady in the second one ( as they're inseparable) and Krang and the Technodrome in the third one.
But no, instead of Bebop and Rocksteady, they invent 2 new mutants Tokka and Rahzar which struck me as strange.
The 1st was referring back to the comics as it was only Shredder and the Foot who were allies, and that's why the movie was much more darker than the cartoon.
The third movie was so under-whelming though, that they should've broke with the comics thing and brought in Krang and the Technodrome which would've been an explosive sequel.
On the other hand, can you imagine how big the budget would have to be, for Krang and the giant Technodrome, trying to conquer the whole world?
Orochi Chimera
08-01-2004, 01:42 PM
He should have been in the movie. It would have been interesting to see him either way either as a detailed animatronic puppet or completely computer generated.
I thought it would have been better to include Krang in the third movie. In another thread I stated that TMNT 3 could've been great if Krang was in it. Instead of the Feudal Japan timeslip, Krang could have invaded Earth, resurrected Shredder from the pier, and created two new mutant animals: Bebop and Rocksteady. Prof. Perry would be revealed to be an Utrom and help the turtles capture Krang, who would be revealed as a renegade Utrom.
And Casey would come back too, to make up for his unnecessary absence in TMNT 2.
Anyway, that's just my opinion.
Mike Bock
08-03-2004, 04:14 PM
I really hate TMNT 3, I was really expecting to see Krang or Bebop and Rocksteady. Back then the Turtles were pouplar cause of the Toon,we can't deny that, so whay not make a third movie based more on the toon than in the comic?! :tcry: I also wanted to see Shredder coming back in the third movie which I didn't see. :tdead:
I don't think Krang would have been a difficult thing to animate back then,maybe Bebop or Rocksteady but not Krang he is a small pink brain thing.LOL Not too over the budget IMO.
Shreddette
08-03-2004, 04:23 PM
I don't think Krang would have been a difficult thing to animate back then,maybe Bebop or Rocksteady but not Krang he is a small pink brain thing.LOL Not too over the budget IMO.
I agree. Krang is so small compared to the other characters, the animatronics/puppetry would have been a breeze compared to the turtles and the other mutant characters.
To this day I'll never understand why they did it the way they did. It would have been much more fun if it had Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady. That's the audience they were going for first, is it not? The ones brought up on the old Toon?
I wanted to see the Technodrome, maybe an underground module, and I totally wanted to see Shredder more the way he was in the toon, which would only be possible with Krang in the picture.
Hmph.
Ninja Turtl3 : RaphaeL
08-03-2004, 05:02 PM
thats sucks that the Utroms where spose to be in the 2nd movie and it wasn't, well if they make a second movie i guess it'll have Utroms.
um there is a second movie... and a 3rd one where the F*** have you been?
Really. Oy gavalt.
And BTW, that avatar of yours is friggin' creepy.
Spitfire
08-03-2004, 06:26 PM
Blah the 3rd movie was awful. the only person who could pull off Krang would be Jim henson.....
Mike Bock
08-04-2004, 02:01 AM
The third movie was awful indeed,it needed some mutants and Shredder !!
I was sooo dissapointed when I saw this movie back then. :cry:
Bug-Eyed Earl
08-04-2004, 11:43 PM
The whole reason that Krang and the rest aren't used in th enew series is because of rights issues; I wonder if the mvie only had the rights to adapt a comic. Now, April being a reporter, the colored masks, the love for pizza, etc- those came from the cartoon. but those are concepts, not actual characters. They were probably put there to give the kids who watched some familiarity.
So it's simply possible they only had the rights to the Mirage comics. Notice that April's boss was different than the boss in the cartoon? That might be one sign.
Mike Bock
08-04-2004, 11:56 PM
Who has the rights for the classic characters from the toon this days?
ZariusTwo
08-05-2004, 10:29 AM
The whole reason that Krang and the rest aren't used in th enew series is because of rights issues.
It does'nt matter if it's because of rights or not, what the original cartoon series fascists can't seem to comprehend is that Laird DOES...NOT...GIVE...ONE...FLIPPING...TOSS ABOUT KRANG, ROCKSTEADY, BEBOP, THE TECHNODROME etc
They were never part of HIS story arc, the movie was created to follow the MIRAGE comics specifically, that's why it remains Pete's favourate film, that's why it stuck two fingers up at the audience that knew nothing about the comics.
The movie was for the fans of the comic, nothing more, nothing less, the new cartoon is a new re-telling of the comics for not only fans of the comics, but new fans as well, it will never feature any original series concepts outside of in-joke references.
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