Dissappointing Bit about Tournament Fighters game... [Archive]

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

08-14-2004, 03:04 PM

One thing i don't understand in the SNES version of Tournament Fighters is why they didn't have all the main characters like Bebop, Rocksteady, Baxter, Casey Jones and even Splinter weren't in it.

But in 2 of the levels, do you realise that Bebop, Rocksteady, Baxter the fly and Casey Jones are in the background cheering the fighters but you can't select them as players or nothing. Odd, that it was mainly very minor villains or heroes with only the 4 turtle's and Shredder as the regular's. I thought it just teases you that them are in it.

In the mega drive one, it's the same story but no shredder in it, but with April and Casey Jones. Krang is one of the bosses in it, but you can't play him!!!

On the other hand, a most playable game with very good graphics for the SNES one.

DrSpengler

08-15-2004, 12:10 AM

It's an awesome game, but I agree. More mainstream characters would've been nice. And since I own a SNES and not a Genesis, I never got to play as my favorite character, Casey. :(

Anyone have a pic of what he looked like in the game or what his moves were like?

Some of the new characters were pretty lame. Like that Japanese chick, "Asuka"(?). It seems in fighting games all female characters are pretty much the same. They all move super fast and kick a lot.

And I was soarly disappointed with the Rat King's appearance. Purple Spandex?!

Kiddo Cabbusses

08-19-2004, 02:06 PM

I would probably believe that they thought adding more characters would break the game balance, or that there wasn't enough room for them after what they already had.

Karai

08-19-2004, 10:42 PM

You have to remember too that the 16-bit generation systems could only store so much data because they operated on cartridges. They were very limited in terms of the size of the games back then.

Interestingly, and perhaps ironically enough, Casey Jones is a playable character on the NES version of Tournament Fighters.

Although I agree, the SNES version was probably the best of the three.

TalonMC

08-21-2004, 02:24 PM

TMNT:TF for SNES is my all time fave TMNT video game. As for the character selection, I always kinda thought the character selection (for the SNES version at least) was partially based on City At War... with Rat King and Karai being the "bosses" for the story. As for Aska (who is an awesome character), I always figured she was the game version of Karai's daughter from the comic. The game doesn't include any of the CAW storyline, of course. It's just how I've always looked at the game. And I still play it to this very day and it's always a good time!

-MC

DrSpengler

08-21-2004, 06:20 PM

So as long as we've got a TF conversation going...

What character does everyone prefer to play with? I'm partial to Cyber Shredder, myself. Plus he can repel Leo's stupid attack he stole from Jubei.

Karai

08-21-2004, 07:32 PM

I'm most familiar with the SNES version, as that's the one I usually play. I think my favorite character to use is Chrome Dome, mostly because of his Dhalsim-esque ability to extend his limbs, and I love his ultimate attack, The Chrome Bomb. And he electrocutes people. Wee.

Hyper Metal Sonic

08-23-2004, 06:45 PM

Anyone find the Genesis version to be really WEIRD?

It's like some 16-year old built the game and intended it to be released as shareware or something. It seems so low quality.

Whereas the SNES version looks and feels like a SF2 clone.

Karai

08-23-2004, 07:29 PM

Yeah, the Genesis version is REALLY freaky. I'm surprised it's got the same name. I'm not sure what it is about it either.

Jonatello

08-23-2004, 09:01 PM

the Genesis version is horrible

NeoBix

08-23-2004, 10:48 PM

DrSpengler

08-24-2004, 10:20 AM

Genesis loses against SNES in general, not just with Tournament Fighters. lol... SNES beat Genesis really bad in the old 16 bit console wars of the early to mid 90s.

why do you think Sega isn't even manufacturing home consoles nowadays? Their Dreamcast sunk like the Titanic.

Genesis was a huge success, partially due to Sonic the Hedgehog and uncut Mortal Kombat.

Genesis was their last big console success, though. The failure of the Dreamcast isn't what killed them, it was the consecutive failures of the 32X, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Game Gear, and the Nomad. Dreamcast was just the final mistake.

But it's no big deal. They're still producing their best games from a third party status. And now that they've joined with Namco and Nintendo to form the "Triforce", we may even see Sonic in the next Smash Bros installment. Big maybe, though.

Serp

08-24-2004, 11:39 AM

How could you say that about the Dreamcast!!! I love Dreamcast!!! :(
it had the best Fighting games...but that another subject :lol:

I kind of like the more obscure characters and Aska AKA Hippie ninja girl was cool to me!!!

Chrome Dome I remember from the episode "Night of the Rouges" only he was Silver not Bronze and he was about 8 feet tall.

Wingnut was cool and I really like his stage "Thnder Dome!!!

I know little about Armagon and War

Cyber Shredder was cool even though I dont know what was so Cyber about him.

Ratking is pathetically easy (I mean what you get beefed up for nothing!!!)

Karai made the most kick ass boss, She was challengeing very!!!

Mike is Top Teir in that game though so was Don but Leo was way low Teir.

Karai

08-24-2004, 12:05 PM

Just one more note about the Dreamcast (because my boyfriend would want me to come up to its defense) and then I'll get back on topic, I promise. :wink: I think it was a console ahead of its time and would have done better to be released closer to the PS2 and X-Box's release dates. I think it's an exceptional system, but was doomed to suffer circumastances beyond its control. Just poor marketing on Sega's part.

And with that, I'll return you to your regularly scheduled topic discussion.

Midnight_Tanuki

08-26-2004, 08:45 AM

Armaggon is a shark from the future and at one time he fought against merdude and michelangelo.

War is one of the four horsemen, employed by Null to destroy the world

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

08-28-2004, 06:42 PM

I've played both Genesis and SNES versions and really the genesis graphics are real patchy-looking, wheras they are colourful and gorgeous looking on the SNES.

Ninjatron

08-30-2004, 08:48 PM

Flying Butt Attack!

http://www.sykografix.com/articles/article8/index.html

Sayonara.

Karai

08-30-2004, 08:55 PM

Flying Butt Attack!
http://wolfatropolis.com/images/askaflyingbutt.jpg
PH33R!

I've played both Genesis and SNES versions and really the genesis graphics are real patchy-looking, wheras they are colourful and gorgeous looking on the SNES.
I thought that was pretty interesting. - It used to be that people usually commented on how much better the Genesis graphics looked than the SNES... I mean, in general, for most other games. Tournament Fighters, it would seem, is the exception.

Jonatello

08-30-2004, 09:07 PM

It used to be that people usually commented on how much better the Genesis graphics looked than the SNES... I mean, in general, for most other games.

wasn't it always the other way around? I mean the SNES did come out after the Genesis and it does display 4 times as many colors as the Genesis

Karai

08-30-2004, 09:13 PM

wasn't it always the other way around? I mean the SNES did come out after the Genesis and it does display 4 times as many colors as the Genesis
The SNES did display a greater number of colors, giving games a brighter look. But I think in terms of actual detail and sprite movement, the Genesis was considered superior. I could be wrong though, they battled back and forth with each other depending on which games you were analyzing.

Jonatello

08-30-2004, 09:15 PM

IMO the SNES always had better graphics. I can't find any Genesis game that looks as good as this:

http://www.fantasyanime.com/mana/som2shots-main.htm

Karai

08-30-2004, 09:22 PM

IMO the SNES always had better graphics. I can't find any Genesis game that looks as good as this:

http://www.fantasyanime.com/mana/som2shots-main.htm
Heh, yeah, leave it to Square to raise the bar. :D I've always found the SNES graphics more asthetically pleasing, so when something was released for each of the 16-bit consoles, I would pick up the SNES version.

NeoBix

08-30-2004, 09:28 PM

Yeah... there was a very heated battle between the Super Nintendo and the Sega Genesis a long time ago.

There was actually a lot of controversy about the Sega Genesis' graphics, and their integrity. I remember a long time ago when there was an article in a video game magazine which debunked the Genesis' "Blast" processor. Sega supposedly used to promote the Genesis by saying that it had a Blast processor, which, according to them, was a chip inside of the system that made Sonic the Hedgehog go so fast.

He's going so fast, he's just one big blue blur!! Look at him go, mom! It's gotta be the BLAST processor doing that! Wrong. It's called animated sprites.

The Super Nintendo was superior to the Sega Genesis in sound, animation, graphical detail, and more.

If you don't believe me, compare screenshots of Mortal Kombat 2 on the Sega Genesis to the screenshots of Mortal Kombat 2 on Super Nintendo. God, the Genesis version is AWEFUL! Whereas, the Super Nintendo version is an incredible port, looking almost as good as the actual arcade version!

Midnight_Tanuki

08-31-2004, 08:32 AM

but the gensis version had blood as opposed to... rainbow drool?

Jonatello

08-31-2004, 03:28 PM

the SNES version of Mortal Kombat 2 did have blood. It was Mortal Kombat 1 that didn't have blood

Karai

08-31-2004, 04:37 PM

the SNES version of Mortal Kombat 2 did have blood. It was Mortal Kombat 1 that didn't have blood
And I believe it was with that game that most of the heated arguments over the superiority of one system to the other really started to come up. Kids used to tease me at school because I only had an SNES back then. Somehow my not being able to play the "real" version made me inferior to them. :roll:

NeoBix

08-31-2004, 08:45 PM

LOL... yeah, well, a lot of immature kids who knew NOTHING about video game superiority back then would boast that Genesis was a better system because Mortal Kombat 1 had BLOOD but MK 1 on the SNES did not have blood at all...

Then along comes Mortal Kombat 2 on SNES, which has crisp clear sharp beautiful graphics with TONS of blood and it blows the Genesis version out of the water..

Demonfox38

09-01-2004, 01:23 PM

XD Not to get too far off what y'alls are talking about, but I still have to laugh about the Genesis version of TMNT:TF. The game is on crack, a'ight? :lol: Anyone else find it mildly irritating that they forgot to put the game on harder modes and the lame excuse they gave us for not fighting the final boss? Karai's clone? Yeah, right!

And all those planets! Aggh, too many weird flashing colors!!! MY EYES!

SNES just was the best, hands down. It tried to keep to the cartoon, yet it did have some classy looking sprites! Kind of wish they didn't have so many obscure characters in there, but they weren't detracting from the fun of it. 1P mode was fun, too.

Take a wild guess who I was good at. (Hint: Look at my siggy!)

NeoBix

09-01-2004, 02:41 PM

those screen shots of Secret of Mana 2 are very nice, but you need to keep in mind that the people here in America actually NEVER had that game on their Super Nintendos... Secret of Mana 2 was only released in Japan under a different, Japanese title (Seiken Densetsu 3 or something like that).

And, I could be mistaken, but I believe that the Super Famicom (which is the Japanese version of the Super Nintendo) actually had a little bit more superior hardware inside of it than the Super Nintendo had, so it could boast greater games with greater design and graphics than our Super Nintendo here in the USA could.

That's one of the reasons that those screenshots of Secret of Mana 2 look go beautiful. However, if you still want to see some equally beautiful screenshots of Super Nintendo games, go check out some screenshots of the game Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, or Breath of Fire 2. Those are jaw-dropping.

Jonatello

09-01-2004, 04:58 PM

actually, the Super Famicom's hardware is the exact same as the Super Nintendo. You can even play Super Famicom games on the Super Nintendo by pulling out the 2 plastic tabs where the cartridge goes (that way the SF game will fit in the SNES).

Karai

09-01-2004, 05:01 PM

XD Not to get too far off what y'alls are talking about, but I still have to laugh about the Genesis version of TMNT:TF. The game is on crack, a'ight?
Actually, you were completely on-topic. It's the rest of us who are straying off-topic with this system spec talk. :lol:

NeoBix

09-02-2004, 12:12 AM

Actually, Jonatello, you are right about that, sir, and I apologize. I stand corrected! :D

Jet-ski_Ninja

09-08-2004, 05:37 PM

Tournment Fighters wasn't very good. :tthumbsd:

JDavis

09-08-2004, 05:45 PM

Tournment Fighters wasn't very good. :tthumbsd:

Could you be more specific with that opinion? The NES Tournament Fighters, SNES Tournament Fighters, and Genesis Tournament Fighters were three VERY completely different games. The Genesis version was horrible, the NES one wasn't bad, and the SNES one was the best, IMO.