Ninja Turtles 2: B.N Dont wanna play as just turtles?

[Spitfire]

Check this out! http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/teenagemutantninjaturtles2/screenindex.html
You dont have to play as just the turtles

[Doppleganger]

Holy cow! It looks like you can play as Splinter, Casey, Karai, and I don't know who the metal samurai is. I wonder if they'll have Traximus and Zog as unlockable characters.

[raphael_is_cool]

Yeah they're unlockable it says. That other guy is Slasharuu apparently (whoever he is)

[XERO]

Uh, where am I?

CONSPIRACY! :x

[Ninja Tiptup]

Awesome about being able to be more than the turtles. But their mention that the arcade game includes different music saddens me greatly. That music kicked shell. No original TMNT theme for us. :cry:

[Spitfire]

Aw that sucks about the music change
Anyways with all these different characters unlockable I cant wait to play this game. And it looks like you get to fight Ultimate Ninja :D

[Karai]

*dies* AWESOME! More character-ness! Wow, and I thought I'd had enough when I unlocked Splinter mode in the first game.

And I'm really pysched about the TMNT II: Arcade Game inclusion, wonky music and all.

[cqb101]

I'm glad you can play as Casey again, but Karai!? Hell ya!

[Demonfox38]

Yes! *drums on desk* Heh heh, I'm going to have a fun session w/ my sister & boyfriend when this comes out. (Probably going to be Leo/Raph/Splinter . . .or possibly Casey. My sister likes Casey.)

BTW, anyone look at the little numbers above the player's heads? Looks like we may have 4-player on our hands! :D

[cqb101]

Yes! *drums on desk* Heh heh, I'm going to have a fun session w/ my sister & boyfriend when this comes out. (Probably going to be Leo/Raph/Splinter . . .or possibly Casey. My sister likes Casey.)

BTW, anyone look at the little numbers above the player's heads? Looks like we may have 4-player on our hands! :D

It was announced from the start that it would be 4 player.

[Demonfox38]

Mmm. Didn't hear about that. :lol: Probably should read Gamespot or IGN more. Maybe not IGN.

Cool to see the Ultimate Ninja in action, too.

[FireFly]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/KINGOFNOD5/920738_20040820_screen010.jpg
who is this unkown warrior is this new guy for the game or will he be in the show

[Ecto Jedi]

HOLY BOSSA NOVA!!!

I'm not usually one prone to overstatement, but I think it's safe to say that these screens are ten times better than the ones at IGN we've already all seen...Holy smokes, I'm salivating over these pics! I think it's time to get excited --- looks very promising indeed.

This may be the one we've been waiting for.

[Mobius One]

Wow, this is so awesome. I hope you can play as the four Elite, also, cause thatd be neat, and also, I hope Casey can switch his weapons in this game like the Turtlebot could in the last...like from golf club to two bats or something like that. Thatd be really cool.

[Spitfire]

Yeah I just had to share these when I saw them!
Im wondering who this new guy is too and whats up with that Ninja Doll looking thing by the life bar

[Turtlesman 100]

so you can play as one person, and them pick your team is that right

[Hyper Metal Sonic]

By the way, has anyone seen the new videos?

HOLY CRAP THEY DON"T SAY THE SAME THING EVERY 2 SECONDS.

[Spitfire]

Yeah you wull be able to play as a team of 4 even with just 1 person
Hey Sonic could you link us to the videos? I havnt found or seen them yet
Thanks ^_^

[NeoBix]

I wonder what type of licensing ordeal would prevent Konami from using their own original arcade music and voices in the home console version of the game.

Of course, ridiculous legal matters like this are puzzled over all the time, but it still interests me for some reason.

[Spitfire]

Didnt Konami make the orgnial games? And Laird owns like all the rights anyways so I mean its not like they cant use it. Im postive he would have given them permission unless he said no because he wants to forget the old show

[NeoBix]

Spitfire... has Laird stated before that he wants to forget the old show or that he hates it or anything?

And yeah... Konami did make the old arcade games, both of them, so that's why it perplexes me even more.

A lot of hardcore veteran fans of TMNT are going to be disappointed about the music and voice changes. Although, the screen shots of the arcade translation look beautiful, which is a definite plus.

[Spitfire]

Spitfire... has Laird stated before that he wants to forget the old show or that he hates it or anything?

And yeah... Konami did make the old arcade games, both of them, so that's why it perplexes me even more.

A lot of hardcore veteran fans of TMNT are going to be disappointed about the music and voice changes. Although, the screen shots of the arcade translation look beautiful, which is a definite plus.
I dont think Laird wants to forget the old show either(Though he seemed pissed that the turtles would fight during the day in the old show alot) thats just the only reason I can see them changeing it
That or little kid fans of the new show will be like 'What happened to their voices their different"

[NeoBix]

Almost makes me sick to my stomach to think that they would change the music and voices to appease newcomer fans of the new TMNT series.

Spurning the continuity and originality of the vintage arcade games because of something like that is ludicrous.

[Spitfire]

To be honest I think thats the cold hard truth sadly

[NeoBix]

if that is the truth, that SUCKS!

by the way Spitfire... what and who is that a picture of in your Avatar?

[Spitfire]

Yeah I adgree I think the kids need to deal with the old turtles!
The guy in my avy is the singer of Dimmu Borgir. Their a metal band from Europe. That is a short gif taken from their newest music video

[tOkKa]

-->> N.B. , ..according to what we saw at Stan Sakai's panel in San Diego last month.. you should also be able to play as that lil' rabbit friend of yours..
http://www.schwarzerturm.de/Serien/Usagi/usagi_01.jpg

[cqb101]

I really wanna know who that new ninja dude character person is.....I hope we get a figure of him, too.

[Hyper Metal Sonic]

When you go to http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/teenagemutantninjaturtles2/preview_6105416.html a little video will play on the page. It's not very big and very detailed, but you'll get the idea of the fact that they make more "oof" noises rather than "suck on my sword!" or stupid stuff.

[Ecto Jedi]

Well all hope may not be lost...They won't have the exact music from the old arcade, but maybe there's a chance they'll create some new "old-school" stuff?

Just a thought here, but maybe it's the exact original compositions from the arcade they can't use...But perhaps they'll create some new stuff using the old toon music and everything??

[Spitfire]

When you go to http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/teenagemutantninjaturtles2/preview_6105416.html a little video will play on the page. It's not very big and very detailed, but you'll get the idea of the fact that they make more "oof" noises rather than "suck on my sword!" or stupid stuff.
Holy crap! That looks awesome!!!! Thanks for posting that! I love the idea of switching between 4 characters thats sooooooo cool! This will be the turtles game we all have waited for

[zkarlette]

Cant wait for that game to come out :D I loved the first one and this one looks even better :)

[FireFly]

Wow, this is so awesome. I hope you can play as the four Elite, also, cause thatd be neat, and also, I hope Casey can switch his weapons in this game like the Turtlebot could in the last...like from golf club to two bats or something like that. Thatd be really cool.

wait the turtlebot can chance his weapons how

[Demented Utrom]

The Boss Fight music was created by Konami was is not in the Arcade remake so was the Technodrome music.Konami owns the rights to the Arcade games not Stupid Artisan Entertainment who should sued for holding onto the rights.When the origional creator actually owns the rights to everything Ninja Turtles related.

[cqb101]

The Boss Fight music was created by Konami was is not in the Arcade remake so was the Technodrome music.Konami owns the rights to the Arcade games not Stupid Artisan Entertainment who should sued for holding onto the rights.When the origional creator actually owns the rights to everything Ninja Turtles related.

English, please.

[Mobius One]

I think that they couldn't use the old music and voices because Mirage doesn't own the rights to the old show and the theme song from the old show, that company MWS owns it, so that might be why.

[Ecto Jedi]

Whatever the case may be, I hope they don't fill the remake with tunes from the new show...Gosh-darn it, we old fans deserve to hear the old show theme!

And I hope they at least try to make the tunes sound 16-bit...It'd be a bit wierd playing the arcade and having new, digital-quality music that wouldn't fit.

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Oh, no.

By replacing the arcade game soundtracks... I hope they don't mean the WHOLE THING.

I can understand the classic TMNT theme, probably being owned by Mirakami-Wolf-Swenson, or Pizza Power...

But God, replacing some of Konami's original mixes, like "Fire! We gotta get April out!" "Alleycat Blues", and "Bury my Shell at Wounded Knee".... That'll stink like all heck! ;-; I hope Konami can at least keep SOME tunes in!

[Ecto Jedi]

Okay, whoa...Isn't it just the original TMNT arcade that's unlockable?

"Bury my Shell at Wounded Knee" and "Alleycat" blues were from TMNT: Turtles in Time...

[Jonatello]

Almost makes me sick to my stomach to think that they would change the music and voices to appease newcomer fans of the new TMNT series.

Spurning the continuity and originality of the vintage arcade games because of something like that is ludicrous.

They didn't change the music and voices to appease newcomer fans. It's probably because Fred Wolf Films own the rights to the old show and NOT Mirage or Konami.

[Spitfire]

Yeah he owns rights to the old show but not the games which though have the same characters in them arent under the same copyright as the old show. Plus something like that only lasts for 10 years before you have to renew it and why would he want to renew it? To put the show on DVD?

[Jonatello]

From the TMNT website:

Why isn't there more info about the original TMNT cartoon on this site?

The rights for the original TMNT cartoon show are owned by the animation studio Fred Wolf Films. Mirage does not own any rights to reproduce images, sound files or movie files from the cartoon show on our site. Sorry!

If Mirage can't use them on their site, then Konami certainly can't use them in their games.

[NeoBix]

the intricacies of legal systems... *sigh*

tis a shame that such a classic game has to be literally degraded due to such complexities as this crap...

[Jonatello]

I hear ya NeoBix.

[Stefano]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/KINGOFNOD5/920738_20040820_screen010.jpg
who is this unkown warrior is this new guy for the game or will he be in the show

he reminds me of the boss in the second ninja turtle game for the regular nintendo. You are in like an asian home where white tigers attack. This boss loses his head and it shoots rays at you. anyone know what im taking about

[Spitfire]

I emailed the company
Heres my Email
Your company owns the rights to the original Ninja Turtles TV Show! Because of this Konami cant use the original music or voices in the new Ninja Turtles game. In the new game you will be able to unlock the old arcade games as a bonus and now because of your company they have to add new music and voices. I think this is outrageous. You should allow Konami to use the original music and voices in the game. You did not create turtles and I find it rather childish for you to hold onto it like your company is almost 10 years after the show has ended. To please the fans of the show allow Konami to use the original music and voices or you have officially lost my business and the business of every turtle’s fan

Thank you for your time

I suggest you all email them as well if you want to fix this problem
[email protected]

[NeoBix]

Good call Spitfire! Will do!

[Ecto Jedi]

Hey Stefano, yeah I know what you're talking about...But I really doubt it's actually him. Nice coincidence though...

[Jonatello]

you know Spitfire, I might send an e-mail as well. Hell, lets all send e-mails!

[Spitfire]

Hey Stefano, yeah I know what you're talking about...But I really doubt it's actually him. Nice coincidence though...
If enough people send in emails Im pretty sure Fred Wolf will hear about it
And please all do send in emails

[Sumo Snorlax]

This game looks so cool. I loved the first GameCube TMNT and this looks to be even better.


And even though nobody remembers me... I'm back.

[moonfog]

ok so is the bonus game going to be remade (as in new look turtles in arcade style) or is it going to be the fully original arcade mode (making them more archie-like) with the voices of the new toon? i wouldnt like that...

[Hyper Metal Sonic]

The whole e-mailing Fred Wolf thing is a nice idea, but the game is probably too far into development for them to change it. Just accept what you get and be glad you get that much.

[Spitfire]

Im happy with what Im getting but maybe it might help. Some games have been changed as early as a week before its release

[NeoBix]

Spitfire has a point... little rays of hope can do great things.

Hey, Hyper Metal Sonic... that girl in your avatar pic is really cute. Can I get her name and number?

Or would I have to ask Mario or Luigi to get it for me? :P

[Spitfire]

She actually kinda scares me :|

[NeoBix]

lol spitfire!

come on dude... you know there are few things sexier in this world than a cute chick with a mushroom on her head and mario on her shirt

[Spitfire]

Hahah I could name about 100 but I dont have the time

[NeoBix]

yea true, I could too probably.. what the hell am I talkin bout lol