Playmates toys are lazy!

[The Hedge]

When I first seen the toys for the new show I taught they were ok, but after seeing the He-man toys, I think Playmates took the easy way out. :sleep:
What I mean by that is, the new TMNT figures are basically rehashes of the old figures, with some facial changes and minor alterations.
The footsoldier is the best example, he looks the same as the old version, with some colour changes, and in my opinion looks crap.
The Shredders legs are to small, he should be taller than the Turtles, look at the new Skeletor figure, it looks so cool because it has all the right proportions.
Now don't get me wrong, I am really greatful that there is a new show and action figure line coming out, but I just feel Playmates could have made more of an effort.
Does anyone else feel the same?

[Greed]

The new toys are not that bad & the he-man toys are not that good the skeletor fig for Ex face is all messed up

[The Hedge]

Well Skeletor looked good in the pic I seen, maybe if I seen the figure up close I wouldn't be that impressed.
I think Raph is the best of the new TMNT figures, and in general I think the new figures are ok, but they could have been better.

[Greed]

Yeah they should make the new figs more articulated

[Raphael-sama]

They ARE more articulated. I can't dig out the quote, but Playmates has said that all the characters have the basic standards of articulation (knees, elbows, etc) They're not as simplified as the originals, don't worry.

[Greed]

I know about the new articulated points but I want more

[Eye of Sarnath]

Ya konw, there are only so many places on a toy that you can add joints to. If you think the He-Man figures are so great, go sing their praises on a He-Man fourm. They may just be rehashes, but they're GOOD rehashes. If you think you could do it better, I'd love to see (but I highly doubt you could). Besides, how can you make the Turtles look different without making them look TOO different? I could go into detail as to why Playmates did the best possible job, but I'm too lazy to type that much. Maybe some other time.

[PWDESAI]

they aren't rehashes, have u seen the old footsoldier? he was bent over and had long gorrila arms... the new motu are more of a rehash than the tmnt, the sculptors even said so

now don't go dissing playmates, their first boys toy line was the tmnt, the only other succesful toy line in my eyes are the simpsons, mattel has barbie, hot wheels, motu, harry potter... Mattel can afford big known sculptors from SPAWN. that's right the guys that make motu are ex spawn workers... they are know as the 4 horsemen, i acutally talked with them a few weeks ago. I think playmates is, was, and always will be the bizomb

[heintzvelvet]

I agree.
The new turtle toys ROCK!!! I also like the He-man ones, but they are total rehashes. all the new He-man toys look basically the same as the old ones, not necesarily he-man himself, but all the bad guys are pretty much the same! ESPSECIALLY Mer-man. he's exactly the same as the old.

and the new figures look nothing like the old ones! the old ones had rounder jawlines, and the shells were rounder as well. As for the foot soldiers, I have to agree with PWDESAI the old ones looked like Gorilla men. the new ones actually look like they could kick some ass!!

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/toys/2003/foot/footfront.jpg http://www.ninjaturtles.com/toys/1988/foot.jpg

WAY different!!

[Newton Gimmick]

Playmates has always made good TMNT figures. True the new He-Mans are awesome...But Playmates is built on the back of TMNT, don'tcha think they want to make good figures?

I love the new Foot, plus the Movie Foot Soldier is like a exact replica.

Not to mention all the new guys look good, the reason they look like they do is how they are drawn on the show!

I really liked the Next Mutation figures.

Playmates has always done pretty good by the turtles.

Except for things like adding bugs to characters, and making guys look a little wrong.....but overall good job Playmates.

[azure turtle]

Hmm... Personally, I really like how the new action figures look compared to the old ones... :ohwell:

[heintzvelvet]

I don't know if it sounded like I don't like the new Figs cause I LOVE them!
they are wicked, its true that playmates does the figures pretty much to the T of the shows characters. there are of course some things they've screwed up on... Leatherhead being one. He is so much tougher looking than the toy is. Splinter was always one I was dissapointed with, still liked it, but you know. same with Shredder. I thought he could have been done better.

Also, what I really wanted to see and still do, are Oroku Saki and Hamato Yoshi action figures. They had the mutation ones, but I mean real action figures. Same size as the rest. Also a Baxter Stockman toy - not as the FLY.

thats my rant!

YAY PLAYMATES!!!

[PWDESAI]

You know what i want to see?
i just watched the movie last night, and if they could make super detailed maybe not as posable to have more detail of the movie turtles and shredder and maybe tatsu, that would rock so much. Specialy shredder, i mean that red suit and his armor would look so cool on a super detailed toy

[Karpo_007]

But the shredder toy is mostly black and grey... I think we wont see the reddish shredder again...

[PWDESAI]

you misunderstood karpo, i was saying, if we ever got like a comic shop exclusive sorta thing, nothing to do with the cartoon or anything... i want a toy based of the movie of shredder

[Apple Cat]

I love the new Foot!

[Shellfox]

Ya konw, there are only so many places on a toy that you can add joints to.
every hold a Stan Winston Figure, there are a lot of points if your willing to put some time in, the TMNT may not be tring hard enough if they only give them the articulation of the old figs, or a little higher.
Yes I love the new looks, and hope the real toys are as good as they appear, but that doesn't always happen.
I want Shredder so much

[Eye of Sarnath]

Well, look at it this way. Now, suppose they decied to put ball joints at the knees. The Turtles have the pads on their knees, and how would you then put pads on top of a ball joint? Realistically, how would you do it? There are ways to do it, but it would be difficult, and, in the end, not really worth it. The Turtles are pyhsically different from humans, and this doubtless effects where thy decide to add articulation.

[Raphael-sama]

And besides, if you stick in too much, all over the place, eventually you're gonna have a toy that stands up for 2 seconds then falls flat on his or her face. Real fun.

-Badabing.

[Eye of Sarnath]

Amazing! :o What I just said has not been entirely lost upon the members of this fourm!

[Steel_Wings]

Ok..for starters..the new He-Man figures have a more anime style look to them..this goes ESPECALLY for Skeletor..No his face isn't messed up..He's just plain ol' ulgy

Second: I remeber some of the old TMNT toys actualy being able to stand on their own..Also from the pictures I saw..I doubt these are just re-hashes

[Shellfox]

seriously have you ever owned a Stan Winstom Figure, I just HAve the Realm of the Claws, and the points are amazing. 4 in each leg (main, upper thigh 360 heal, up/down foot), 3 in each arm(main, bicept, wrist), left/right Chest(F) up/down/left/right chest(M), and 360 for the heads(interchangable). and with the exception of the male chest, main arm and leg joins, neck and heel you can't tell there their. And it still stands fine as long as its on the base, but thats more due to the shape of the foot than the joints. Now if they could some of these hidden joints on on the guys they'd be perfect

[Eye of Sarnath]

I don't care about Stan Winston figures. We're talking about TMNT figures. Yes, I know there are figures with absolutely amazing artciulation out there, but my point is it wouldn't be realisic to put that in a Turtle figure. Now for Shredder, or the Foot, that's another subject...

[Shellfox]

I don't know sound reasonable, left/right wrist articulation at the band, so you don't see it, same way with the elbows like in the old figs. 360 Ball joints for the neak. Joint at the knee pad above or below. 360 joint at the foot. Really they'd intagreat they selves perfectly with the TMNT figures adding a good amout of possablity with play action