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Mouse
11-07-2002, 11:34 AM
Just finished viewing the new sneak peeks and it looks as though Baxter Stockman is now of the darker persuasion. I'm not being prejudice and I am not saying he can't be, but it just seems kinda weird. I was expecting a really crazed looking white man. I was fooled!

Like I said I am not being prejudicial against it, I just think it is different...refreshing but different. :D

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/2003/baxterturn.jpg

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 11:37 AM
Agreed mouse & don't worry bout that!
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What do yall think![/u]

Sorry! Couldn't draw it any better than that.

GreenWillow
11-07-2002, 11:48 AM
~Kids! Kids! Baxter Stockman always WAS African American! At least in the original Mirage books. It was the cartoons that turned him into a wimpy white guy who becomes a whiney fly. This is TOO cool!
The original Baxter is a force to be reconned with-- ok, he's psychotic, but he's a *dangerous* psychotic!

~GW

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 11:50 AM
Why isn't that working!!! my pic I made!

HorseTechie
11-07-2002, 12:32 PM
Ooo... they gots more sneak peeks up?! Heh-heh.. he looks so mad... after all Baxter was also the first Cyborg in TMNT existence too.

Karpo_007
11-07-2002, 12:33 PM
[quote="Mouse"]I'm not being prejudice and I am not saying he can't be, but it just seems kinda weird. I was expecting a really crazed looking white man. I was fooled!

Like I said I am not being prejudicial against it, I just think it is different...refreshing but different. :D

Baxter doesn't look weird, he looks just the way he should look.

Nickokapo
11-07-2002, 12:45 PM
He looks great, i like him better than the dork he was in the old toon! :D

Karpo_007
11-07-2002, 12:46 PM
Couldn't agree more.

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 01:00 PM
What do yall think of my pic?

Karpo_007
11-07-2002, 01:01 PM
Is it a running man or what?

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 01:03 PM
supposed to be a Xenomorph but it won't work unless I put those dumb dashes in.

GreenWillow
11-07-2002, 01:46 PM
~Yeah, I've noticed all the text aligns to the left side whether I space it over or not. But the Xenomorph looks cool with those dashes--kinda like he's running really fast now.
Maybe he's running from Baxter Stockman?

~GW

GreenWillow
11-07-2002, 01:48 PM
~Kids! Kids! Baxter Stockman always WAS African American! At least in the original Mirage books. It was the cartoons that turned him into a wimpy white guy who becomes a whiney fly. This is TOO cool!
The original Baxter is a force to be reckoned with-- ok, he's psychotic, but he's a *dangerous* psychotic!

~GW

HorseTechie
11-07-2002, 01:53 PM
In other words, another mad scientists bent on world domination, via the use of technology.

Nturtle
11-07-2002, 02:37 PM
cool!! I like his new look!!

Eye of Sarnath
11-07-2002, 03:26 PM
This is how Baxter's supposed to be. This is how I wanted him to be. This is how you should want him to be too. End of story.

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 03:30 PM
Will he turn into a fly in this 1?

Kameko
11-07-2002, 03:39 PM
I hope not. They played it out the first time. Be more creative this time around. Come up with something different!

Karpo_007
11-07-2002, 04:16 PM
Will he turn into a fly in this 1?

:lol: LMAO :lol:

Newton Gimmick
11-07-2002, 04:36 PM
White guy fly Baxter ruled.


Oh well, now that Laird has total say so, all the cool stuff from the old Toon is going the way of the Dodo.

Karpo_007
11-07-2002, 04:51 PM
The original cartoon Baxter was a wimp. This time we will get the real Baxter.

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 04:51 PM
As long as his creature form isn't ugly I'm ok!

Karpo_007
11-07-2002, 04:52 PM
There is no creature form :sweatdro: Might be a cyborg form much later tough...

Sparvid
11-07-2002, 05:00 PM
Oh well, now that Laird has total say so, all the cool stuff from the old Toon is going the way of the Dodo.:?: You don't think anything from the Mirage universe is cool?

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 05:02 PM
Mirage? What about Mirage? I saw 1 last week on my way to school!

Karpo_007
11-07-2002, 05:14 PM
You dont know what Mirage is.. Well it's the comic book publisher founded by Eastman and Laird. And they published the original TMNT comic book. You didnt know this?

Nturtle
11-07-2002, 05:46 PM
I would of liked Kevin eastman to be involved though, hes goofier!! :D

Karpo_007
11-07-2002, 05:52 PM
As he started with the heavy metal and didn't have time for TMNT he sold his share. Well we have to respect the choice he made.

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 06:14 PM
Sorry, I only read Spawn comics & The Maxx.

Couldn't ever find any Turtles comics but my older bro did at one time have a book & it was pretty cool.

Nturtle
11-07-2002, 06:18 PM
yeah, its too bad, maybe he will return to the turtles one day, I hope laird wasn't the one who decided on the new cartoon designs :dead:

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 06:20 PM
He who & who did he do the voice of?

Reznorite420
11-07-2002, 06:29 PM
Shouldn't this be in the New TMNT Discussion forum?

Spike The Xenomorph
11-07-2002, 06:57 PM
Not sure.

GreenWillow
11-07-2002, 08:28 PM
He who & who did he do the voice of?

~Are you asking who Peter Laird is? He didn't do any voices. He is the co-creator, along with Kevin Eastman, of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Those are the guys that first drew Baxter Stockman as an African American mad man. :P Among other things.
The new cartoon doesn't look like the old cartoon cuz the new cartoon is supposed to more closely follow the original black and white Ninja Turtle comic books which incidentally, was not written for children.
Peter Laird is also the guy who has begun publishing the newest black and white TMNT comic book with his friend, Jim Lawson. He's also the guy who is prolly almost entirely responsible for there even *being* a new cartoon series.
S'cuse me if I sound a bit testy. Been a long day.....

~GW

Reznorite420
11-07-2002, 09:04 PM
I can't seem to convince a few people at my school that TMNT didn't start out as a kid's thing. All they know of is the TV show...

Newton Gimmick
11-07-2002, 11:30 PM
Personally I think Eastman was forced out of the deal. He seems to respect alot of ideas of the turtles. That Laird doesn't. Not that Laird is ruining things, but if he has everything his way its just too much one sided.

Also, I like lots of stuff from the Mirage universe. Just not the black Baxter Stockman.

Nerdy Baxter was cool, cause he got pushed around so much, then ended up as a badass one he was the Fly. And hated everyone.

This guy is just another run of the mill mad scientist villian. Blah.

Oh well. I'm excited anyway to see how he's percieved.

azure turtle
11-08-2002, 12:13 AM
Woah! I love Baxter's new look! He's wicked! :evilgrin: Can't wait to see him in the toon... Especially when he unleashes the mousers. Heh heh...

Skeletoncrew
11-08-2002, 12:40 AM
I think all the villians look great! Saki and Shredder...mmmm-mmm! The Purple Dragons look like a force to be reckoned with as well!

Karpo_007
11-08-2002, 04:15 AM
I cant believe how someone likes the wimp Baxter over the real one... I mean Baxter was never ment to be a wimp..

egoing
11-08-2002, 07:16 AM
Those who wrote the CARTOON story bible changed Baxter's race and expanded the characters invovlment in the mythos, they also went a step further with the character had him mutated with a fly. I liked him as a fly but it's not part of the comic so it's jettisoned. I didn't get the real story of the turtles when i saw the cartoon in 1987. Hamato Yoshi isn't Splinter and while interesting in the 1987 cartoon it's not what the comic creators intended.

Karpo_007
11-08-2002, 07:40 AM
Well they changed the whole consept to more kid friendly. I liked the first season but after that the quality of the show went down.

GreenWillow
11-08-2002, 11:15 AM
Personally I think Eastman was forced out of the deal. He seems to respect alot of ideas of the turtles. That Laird doesn't. Not that Laird is ruining things, but if he has everything his way its just too much one sided.

~The only creative conflict that I'm aware of between Eastman and Laird was over Venus. There are conflicting stories about whether Kevin created her, or merely supported Saban's introduction. It's pretty certain though that NT:TNM would never have come into being unless Venus was included, so Peter's objections to her were drowned out. Since he now has sole ownership he has been able to remove Venus from the official universe.
And Kevin was not "forced" out. That much I know. I would guess that his selling out his share of the TMNT had to do with money...things like this most often do.
I don't see how Peter could be perceived as not respecting the idea of the TMNT since he co-created them...and is the one helping to return them to their original concept.

~GW

Karpo_007
11-08-2002, 11:30 AM
Eastman did not create venus, but was not so much against her than Laird. And the fact that they live in diffrent states and Eastman working with Heavy Metal, he sold his share. There was no forcing involved.

GreenWillow
11-08-2002, 12:30 PM
I dunno...there are conflicting stories and in at least one interview Kevin stated that he invented Venus. But sometimes Kevin's stories change...sorta. Don't get me wrong, I love him dearly, but I do know-- from personal experience-- that Kevin tends to tell people what they want to hear.

~GW

Karpo_007
11-08-2002, 12:38 PM
Maybe he invented her, but only because a girl turtle was an order from fox. And yeh i think that Venus was Eastman and Laird's biggest conflict.

Mouse
11-12-2002, 05:24 AM
so how exactly did fans take to Venus? i mean i've never seen Next Mutation, but could someone tell me why the show even came into being? then again it only lasted a season, so maybe i didn't miss much.

someone enlighten me, please?

Karpo_007
11-12-2002, 08:12 AM
They wanted todo live action series fox produced it, but the condition was that there will have to be a girl turtle. Even if there were no venus, the show wouldn't have been any better. Most of people(besides little kids) hated the show, but there are few who liked it.

Kali
11-12-2002, 09:09 AM
so how exactly did fans take to Venus?
Well, I wasn't in the fandom when the whole thing was going on, but I'm guessing a number of fans hated the idea of a female turtle from the very beginning. Before the show even started, when all they had was "we're doing a ninja turtles show with a girl turtle". Others thought the idea was okay and waited until they actually saw the show before hating it. Others are nuetral. And there are some, myself included, who think Venus was a good idea, and we all joined the Venus fan group on Yahoo!

Kameko
11-12-2002, 09:36 AM
Venus gets on my nerves to no end, but I think ths concept could have worked if ANYONE other than SABAN :x had been working on it.

Kali
11-12-2002, 09:54 AM
Yes, that's my opinion too. TMNT Letters and fan fic portrayals of her and the NM universe as a whole were far less annoying.

Spike The Xenomorph
11-12-2002, 12:37 PM
Venus gets on my nerves to no end, but I think ths concept could have worked if ANYONE other than SABAN :x had been working on it.

Who, Kameko?

Kameko
11-12-2002, 01:10 PM
Who? What do you mean?

Spike The Xenomorph
11-12-2002, 01:15 PM
go here for some fun:

http://www.freefungames.com/scripts/cyberpet_open.shtml

Venus & Saban, who are they?

Kameko
11-12-2002, 01:20 PM
*stupified stare @ Spike*

You.... don't.... know..... Man, you been livin' in a cave, or what???


SABAN= The moron who produced PowerRangers, VR Troopers, and, unfortunately, the short-lived live-action TMNT series, The Next Mutation.

VENUS= The female turtle (whom most ppl can't stand) That the aforementioned moron introduced in the short-lived live-action TMNT series, The Next Mutation.

Sparvid
11-12-2002, 02:03 PM
Well, I don't think I had heard anything about NM until I found the official site.

Mouse
11-12-2002, 02:05 PM
i wish i could have at least seen the next mutantion just once. i'd probably like it, then again I might have loathed it.

so who's to say??? :P

Kali
11-12-2002, 02:07 PM
They've got clips over at http://www.ninjaturtlesnetwork.com/TV/NextMutation/tnm.htm if anyone wants to give it a look.

Nickokapo
11-12-2002, 04:26 PM
go here for some fun:

http://www.freefungames.com/scripts/cyberpet_open.shtml

Venus & Saban, who are they?
Is that a pikachu?Looks more like a kirby =p
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/kikia1.html

Reznorite420
11-12-2002, 06:23 PM
Most of people(besides little kids) hated the show, but there are few who liked it.May God pity those non-kids that liked it....

Shellfox
11-16-2002, 05:58 PM
Well I like NT TNM, don't give me that look, for what it was it was good, I mean it came from the same company that does Power Rangers so expectations were'nt high. Personnaly I loved the concept of Venus, if not the real deal and some fan-Fics I've read with her in them were great, she can be made cool. Ok so the Hummer was a little of the top, the sound effects were over used, Wick- no comment. But It did give us Bone Steel, I love Bone Head, he is you of my favorite villians, simpley because hes not a villian, he just hunts. Of course you need to know I also watch Armada every new ep in the vain hope that the kids will be killed horibbly and skinned alive by megatron feed to Hot Shot, so my opinion may not be the best

HorseTechie
11-18-2002, 09:08 AM
*EDIT* Transformer topic has been moved to the General Discussion thread, as "Transformers".

*runs over the the Gen Dis thread to contribute*

Spike The Xenomorph
11-18-2002, 02:22 PM
Oh! Leo's niece is it? I thought she had a different name.

Ninja Tiptup
11-21-2002, 11:14 PM
This Baxter looks like a really ticked off Urkel. At least he wont be a fly.

Karpo_007
11-22-2002, 02:29 AM
Baxter looks exactly like he should. Sadly, same thing cannot be said for Shredder.

Anarchistguy
11-22-2002, 06:44 AM
Karpo, don't worry about The Shredder, I'm sure he'll be fine.
Anyway, I absolutely LOVE is new look.

Karpo_007
11-22-2002, 06:56 AM
I hoped he would have looked more like the original..

http://mail.edu.kitee.fi/~inaski/shredder2.jpg

Jephael
11-22-2002, 11:02 AM
This Baxter looks like a really ticked off Urkel. At least he wont be a fly.

LOL, That's what I keep saying. I could even see Jaleel White doing Stockman's voice!

Wingnut
11-23-2002, 10:07 AM
Wow that's a new look for 'fly guy'

Wingnut
11-23-2002, 10:17 AM
Karpo,if you've seen the new design for the action figures Shredd' isn't going to be the same but at least he's not going to be as bad as 'dragon lord' and venus.Casey jones isn't going to be masked anymore neither :( which i personally think sucks and it certaintly dosen't help the 'dark' side of the cartoon.People just think mask equals dark.But then again at least its not the next mutation all over again....THANK GOD

Kali
11-23-2002, 10:20 AM
They never said Casey wasn't going to be masked. He most likely will be in the cartoon. He just isn't masked in the preview style guide. He starts off as boarderline psychotic in the cartoon, that should say something for how they're handling this.

Nturtle
11-23-2002, 12:00 PM
yeah, he most likely will have a mask

Eye of Sarnath
11-23-2002, 12:24 PM
I don't know how you can possibly complain about Shredder. I think he looks awesome! 8)

Karpo_007
11-23-2002, 01:17 PM
He looks like a robo in heavy armor. Original Shredder was very agile. And I can say for sure that casey will use his mask when fighting.

Raphael-sama
11-23-2002, 01:28 PM
Yeah, but that Shredder got blown to little pieces in his first appearance. :wink: The new Shredd looks like he can take some punishment.

-Badabing.

Karpo_007
11-23-2002, 01:35 PM
Good point. Looks like this time Shredder will be a long time enemy.

Tokka-B
11-23-2002, 05:43 PM
Man, I hope Casey still is that "hockey player" that I remember, he was cool. I love shredder's new look and it is very appropriate because he sorta looked like the ultimate Shredder in TMNT 3 Manhattan Project for NES if you can remember still, lol, I loved that game... Baxter still looks like a nerd, just really pissed off, and I don't think race really matters, he is a nerd regardless. Steve Erkel would be the best voice for him, lmfao!!! I don't like the new look for April though, she looks kinda like a skater girl which pisses me off. I hope this becomes a mega-hit!!! Spread the news guys! :thyper:

Karpo_007
11-23-2002, 05:45 PM
Theres no way their going to have casey fight wothout his hockey mask. And I think april's ok, maybe little too young.

Jephael
11-23-2002, 05:49 PM
I agree with ya there, Karpo. She looks even young enough to be Casey's neice.

Shellfox
11-23-2002, 05:53 PM
Well shredder is going to be rich this time around so maybe they'll take a page from Iron Man and make the suit along those lines, a sorts Ninja Iron Man, he may be rich enough to do the job, and it would explane the eyes.

well I'm just throughing out ideas

Karpo_007
11-23-2002, 06:05 PM
Maybe the helmet has night vision or something :wink:

Apple Cat
11-23-2002, 07:19 PM
---hot link, delete this

Greed
11-23-2002, 07:29 PM
He looks kinda non human in that mask tho. But he is better than the Shredder in the old cartoon

Karpo_007
11-24-2002, 04:32 AM
Definetly better than old toon shredder. Still the armor looks too heavy, but I can get used to it.

MzTheInsomniac
11-24-2002, 10:39 AM
i know casey will have his maskm, as for shredder he looks more like a cyborg, but aside from that he looks awesome

Mouse
11-24-2002, 06:01 PM
the new shredder looks much more "futuristic" than the "'toon" Shredder.

Greed
11-24-2002, 06:37 PM
yeah I don't think he is sopposed to look futrarestic

Shellfox
11-24-2002, 06:44 PM
still say he has a sorta Iron-Man armor going on

Tokka-B
11-24-2002, 06:53 PM
He looks just like the super shredder in TMNT 3 NES, I wonder if he gets those powers, that would be amazing :eyemouth: :twink: :tsmile: :tsurpris:

Greed
11-24-2002, 07:02 PM
won't happen

Tokka-B
11-24-2002, 07:04 PM
Hey, don't be so pessimistic man, I am just trying to think of ideas, geez

HorseTechie
11-25-2002, 12:29 PM
He also reminds me of Galvatron... *notices the weird looks and scuttles away*

heretic888
11-25-2002, 12:30 PM
uhhhhhh yeah.

Shellfox
11-25-2002, 03:39 PM
He also reminds me of Galvatron... *notices the weird looks and scuttles away*

yeah a little in the head design

HorseTechie
11-26-2002, 01:24 PM
The helmet is the major trigger, with the three prong design, me thinks. :goofygri:

http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Cels/Galvatron1a.jpg

heretic888
11-26-2002, 02:42 PM
its SUPPOSED to be traditional battlefield-style samurai armor.... but more 'updated'.

Karpo_007
11-26-2002, 02:46 PM
Well original Shredder didn't have armor at all...

http://mail.edu.kitee.fi/~inaski/shredder.jpg

heretic888
11-26-2002, 02:49 PM
although obviosly fictitious, the original Shredder is wearing basically something like ninja guerilla warfare battle armor. It provides some protection and is intended to provide speed and mobility as well.

Karpo_007
11-26-2002, 02:53 PM
Well he has a robe of some sort, not very protective. Of course the blades on his arms provide some blocking ability. Im worried that new Shredder wont be as agile as the original one.

heretic888
11-26-2002, 03:01 PM
a trained ninja can move quite easily through that armor, i can assure you.

a robe or cape is mostly for concealment and/or ornamentation. it is unlikely he would wear it were he discovered in battle.

Karpo_007
11-26-2002, 03:03 PM
Well he came to Face the Turtles in that out fit.

And yeah, if he is agile in the New cartoon, im ok with the looks.

heretic888
11-26-2002, 03:08 PM
dont worry, im sure he will be.

Karpo_007
11-26-2002, 03:10 PM
Yeah. But as he seems to be pretty much out of the TMNT's reach, will there be many fights between them? Or will it be Hun most of the time.

HorseTechie
11-27-2002, 11:07 AM
*suddenly finds that amusing* Or maybe that's the reason there is no Turtles being KOed. Shredder can't make his attack on them cause he's unable to move! :lol:

Shredder: Nnnnngggghhhaaaaaa! *whispers to Hun* Come here and hold up my arm so I can sword fight... please!

I agree with Heretic though... I have no doubt the prooducers will make armored shredder lethal-quick.

heretic888
11-27-2002, 11:44 AM
that armor isnt as heavy as you think it is (particularly with modern technologies).

Karpo_007
11-27-2002, 12:45 PM
It just looks that way. Im sure it will be fine.

heretic888
11-27-2002, 12:46 PM
besides, its a cartoon!!! they can make him do whatever the hell they want!!

Karpo_007
11-27-2002, 12:50 PM
Yeah, But I still hope that he will be as agile as in the Mirage comics.

heretic888
11-27-2002, 12:58 PM
in the palldium rpg, Shredder's Physical Prowess (23) is almost as high as Mike's (24). thats pretty damn impressive.

Karpo_007
11-27-2002, 01:01 PM
In the first issue none of the TMNT were a match for him beofre they used the group attack. Of course at the end of Return to New york, Leo could do it by himself. I guess they had grown a lot in those few years.

heretic888
11-27-2002, 01:03 PM
only Mike and Leo could hurt him one on one in the first battle. Mike shoulder tackled him (probably knocking the wind outta him) and Leo cut him with his katana (they were only flesh wounds though).

remember that the four of them (espcially Mike and Leo) had spent that summer training their asses off.

Karpo_007
11-27-2002, 01:10 PM
Yeah. Don repaired the house and Raph fooled around with casey.

heretic888
11-27-2002, 01:17 PM
now you see why i said mike and leo were the best fighters???

Karpo_007
11-27-2002, 01:22 PM
Yeah I can see that. Still they say in the New cartoon profile that Raphael is the strongest. Of course that doesn't make him better fighter.

heretic888
11-27-2002, 01:26 PM
well, he was the strongest in the palladium rpg too. but that doesnt really amount to much... especially in a martial art that doesnt utilize overrt physical strength very much.

Eye of Sarnath
11-27-2002, 05:56 PM
Raph "fooled" around with Casey? Uhhh, is there something I don't know here?

Kali
11-27-2002, 10:41 PM
*snickers and fights the temptation to give out links*

Sparvid
11-28-2002, 05:27 AM
*is very grateful that you don't* :wink:

HorseTechie
11-29-2002, 01:05 PM
*nods, and boots thread back on topic* :evilgrin:

heretic888
11-30-2002, 01:07 PM
................ :o

HorseTechie
11-30-2002, 01:14 PM
And I thought I was bad with going 'there' when the Pallidium book sez that Don "gets off on gadgets and technology". :P

But anyhoo... with this obviously insidious line up of baddies for the new cartoon, as well as more established relationships between brothers and human friends, I think the show is gonna be quite promising. :D

heretic888
11-30-2002, 01:31 PM
Yes, I agree (about the show, not the 'get off on gadgets' thing).

Karpo_007
12-01-2002, 06:11 AM
I belive it will be good too. But again Playmates is funding it. NOT a good sign.

heretic888
12-01-2002, 10:16 AM
well, we'll see. i have a good feeling about this one.

Karpo_007
12-01-2002, 10:23 AM
Yeah me too. Atleast its based on Mirage this time.

Mouse
12-02-2002, 09:45 AM
i had no idea that my one topic would ever gain this many pages :o

azure turtle
12-02-2002, 09:04 PM
Didja ever hear about the infamous Glass Bowl thread? ;)

enigma-1
12-03-2002, 12:39 PM
I wouldn't worry too much. This sort of thing happens all the time. :P

Kameko
12-03-2002, 12:54 PM
'Glass bowl thread'?

What about "Machias'sPunishment/WeekFromHell/DiaDeLosMuertos"? :lol:

"When Threads Attack", on the next 'Maury'. :D

Machias Banshee
12-03-2002, 12:59 PM
:lol: Pretty dang close!

I remember (and archived) all the clone threads....heh, its cah-razee seeing how many threads got infected... :tangel:

Kameko
12-03-2002, 02:29 PM
:lol:

Lets see, we've got about 700 or so pages on the aforementioned series of threads....

Are there any longer?

azure turtle
12-03-2002, 07:35 PM
'Glass bowl thread'?

What about "Machias'sPunishment/WeekFromHell/DiaDeLosMuertos"? :lol:

"When Threads Attack", on the next 'Maury'. :D
Oh ya... But I thought my Glass Bowl thread was only gonna end up with six posts. I was wrong. :embarass:

HorseTechie
12-04-2002, 09:10 AM
*clears throat* However.. this thread now resides in the New Cartoon area... so... we can't be rattling too far off the top of new cartoon character updates. :wink:

*wonders if Berger will add any more sneak peeks*

Karpo_007
12-04-2002, 09:35 AM
He seems to be pretty busy with the Daily strips. But let's hope so.

Tokka-B
12-04-2002, 02:27 PM
It is basically one of those hidden rules about forums, any forums you go to there are bound to be thread drifts... :lol:

azure turtle
12-04-2002, 03:45 PM
Yeah, we're only human. We tend to go off-topic at times... :embarass:

Anywho, I'm anxious to see some actual clips of the show! I hope Dan will be posting the opening animation... Complete with the new theme. That would be awesome. :D

MzTheInsomniac
12-04-2002, 03:47 PM
or voice clips

Karpo_007
12-04-2002, 03:47 PM
But probably not going to happen. I belive that the intro wont bee seen unti the shoe premieres.

azure turtle
12-04-2002, 03:49 PM
Yeah... But I'm still crossing my fingers in hopes for any kind of clips! :D

MzTheInsomniac
12-04-2002, 03:51 PM
i agree, i wanna here how each turtle sounds

Karpo_007
12-04-2002, 03:53 PM
It would help if we knew the sound actors. I think I heard from somewhere that they would have started recording. But if the have, why don't they give the actor's names?

azure turtle
12-04-2002, 04:14 PM
I'm wondering the same thing, Karpo. Maybe that will be Dan's next sneak peek... A list of the voice actors. ;)

Mondo_Gecko
12-04-2002, 04:17 PM
I'm gonna wait until i actually see the show. To keep a surprise and unexpected feeling.

Shellfox
12-04-2002, 04:24 PM
I'd rather know now, honestly the level of hype surronding the show make me scared it'll be bad. So a little peak at something like the animation, voices, or a chuck of the scrip would set me at ease. It probly won't happen but it would help

Karpo_007
12-04-2002, 04:26 PM
The plot of the first episode is at www.foxbox.tv

Mondo_Gecko
12-04-2002, 04:26 PM
Yeah well i'm taking a hype vaction

Karpo_007
12-04-2002, 04:30 PM
Well there is very little that can go wrong. I have heard that the animation company is good, and the Plot definetly is good too.

Mondo_Gecko
12-04-2002, 04:32 PM
Maybe they'll have the Lech in an episode. That would seriously rock!!!

Sparvid
12-04-2002, 04:33 PM
:D

Shellfox
12-04-2002, 04:39 PM
The plot of the first episode is at www.foxbox.tv
Seen it, I'd rather see the production Scripts, you can say a shows good, but till I see something hard I don't totally trust them. I mean its not like they'd tell us if the show was bad before it premired,

Like I said I hope its good, but till I see hard fact I expect it to be bad, so I'm either really happy with it or I'm not dissapointed

Turtle X
12-04-2002, 05:49 PM
All Hale to The New Micheal Jackson....................... :goofygri:

Greed
12-04-2002, 06:12 PM
How about umm no

Turtle X
12-04-2002, 06:23 PM
Didnt think So lol, I wonder if he will return as a fly.

Greed
12-04-2002, 06:27 PM
no he will not because he dosen't become a fly in Mirage

Kali
12-04-2002, 06:32 PM
He becomes a robot, though.

Greed
12-04-2002, 08:17 PM
well I rather be robot than a fly

Mondo_Gecko
12-04-2002, 08:20 PM
i liked him as a fly.

BigThew
12-04-2002, 08:29 PM
me2 monda


we seem to be on the same page as a lot of things

i love the old cartoon and wish it would either be a continuation of the last

or almost exactally like the last, with same cahracters and stuff

but what can ya do, this new toon will kick ass

Mondo_Gecko
12-04-2002, 08:32 PM
Yeah we are. I want that as well a continiation, it would be awesome and could introduce new characters and new stories.

Jephael
12-04-2002, 09:11 PM
I'd love it if they did that, cause then people could submit their fanfiction to the show.

Mondo_Gecko
12-04-2002, 09:13 PM
That would rock. I'm thinking of writing fanficction

Karpo_007
12-05-2002, 06:22 AM
It wont be nothing like the original show. Original cartoon was boring, it had no continuity. Most people including the original Creators of TMNT Eastman and Laird has admitted it was boring. And now that Laird is in control of things, it wont ever become like the old show.

And to make one thing clear, as a Kid, i didnt think that the cartoon was boring, I liked it back then. But now that i have watched almost whole show in last months I must say that you can easily over grow it.

And as for the new show, No one knows will it be good or bad yet. Not until it premieres. What we do know is that Plot will be good and I have heard good things about the animators. what can go wrong?

MzTheInsomniac
12-05-2002, 05:16 PM
point well taken karpo

Mondo_Gecko
12-05-2002, 05:19 PM
I like continuity, strong characters and good stories and i'm sure the new show will be great. But I'll always like the Original Cartoon Far Better and i never find it boring.

Karpo_007
12-05-2002, 07:20 PM
When did you last watch it? I didnt find it boring as a kid neither. It was now that i watched the show again. Of course it isn't meant for older audience, you would need a kid to make a fair judgement.

FreshRazz
12-05-2002, 07:28 PM
I'm a kid at heart and I always watch the movies and cartoons! can't get enough of it! i think ill never grow up!

Jephael
12-05-2002, 07:32 PM
I think alot of us feel that way as well, and it's actually a good thing when you think about it.

Mondo_Gecko
12-05-2002, 07:32 PM
I Dunno It Must Be The Kid in me. I Love It.. The Best Cartoon Ever. When I was little i would watch the show and read the Archie comics it didn't get any better then that.

BigThew
12-05-2002, 09:35 PM
don't forget playing with the toys, wearing the clothes, readying the pop-up books or other books (besides the comics), eating offa some TMNT silverwear or plate or tv trays...

life was good

Mondo_Gecko
12-05-2002, 09:36 PM
Right I Forgot

My Life As A Kid........

TMNT