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Brodie
02-20-2005, 12:14 PM
I saw this last night, I was in a pissed off mood, and this made it better. Well, it made an attempt to make it better.

I think it was the state of mind I was in that made me a little slower to get where the film was going. But I dug it. It's, by far, one of my favorite comic book movies. But then again, I'm one of those cats who would sooner watch The Punisher than Spider-Man with that bitch Tobey McGuire.

Reeves is good in this, more so than he is in the Matrix and Point Break.

And the kid from Even Stevens, I figured it'd be a stupid idea to have him in the movie. But he was a good addition.

From now on I'm gonna watch The Matrix movies and pretend I'm watching a bad version of Constantine.

If you haven't seen it, make sure you stay after the credits, because Voltron and I both missed the 'real' ending.

愛
02-20-2005, 12:20 PM
Voltron and I saw this last night. I was impressed to a certain extent, but I thought there was a lack in amount of demons. Reeves acted quite well in this movie, better than I expected.

And I guess we did miss the real ending. Bastards. I have to start waiting for the credits to end from now on.

cqb101
02-20-2005, 01:03 PM
I saw this friday night. I went in expecting a total ass of a movie and I came out pleasently surprised. It was probably Reeves' best performance, which isn't say much, but he didn't ruin the movie for me like I thought he would. I definately give this film a thumbs up.

Barkworm
02-20-2005, 01:08 PM
I haven't read any of the comics but I heard the movie Constantine doesn't have a lot in common with the original one. What's with that?

Brodie
02-20-2005, 01:17 PM
Well, the Spider-Man movie wasnt like the comics, in the sense that Peter Parker isnt a *** in the comics.

Barkworm
02-20-2005, 01:20 PM
Hey, the original Lee/Ditko Spidey was. :lol:

raphael_is_cool
02-20-2005, 01:21 PM
Well, the Spider-Man movie wasnt like the comics, in the sense that Peter Parker isnt a *** in the comics.

Obviously never read the ultimate spiderman ones, hehe. And yes, I know the films don't follow that incarnation

But yeah Tobey Maguire is awful and I don't really like the first one. Too cheesy, predictable and not too interesting. I'd give the second a chance only because friends heap lots of praise on it...although none own it on dvd...

On topic. I know nothing of the Constantine comics but the film sounded interesting enough

Voltron
02-20-2005, 01:44 PM
I liked it. Wasn't spectacular, but it was good. I liked how Constantine resolved everything at the end of the film. Verrry clever.

IceFlash78
02-20-2005, 07:08 PM
I saw Constantine on Friday night. I liked it! It had frightening moments and nice humor. The concept was extremely interesting, and I liked Keanu Reeves in this character. However, it was ALMOST too werid to be good, but after thinking about it, I have to say it was welldone. Definately going to buy the movie when it comes out on DVD.

I went to a site that discussed the movie, and it was littered with posts of comic fanboys who practially ripped the movie to shreds (mind you.. they hadn't EVEN seen the movie yet, only the preview), and their biggest complaints were:

1) Keanu Reeves IS NOT CONSTANTINE
2) Constantine is supposed to be this British guy who uses his wits to outsmart his enemies, not his guns, instead, we have this American guy (changed from British because apparently Keanu can't do a British accent) who uses weapons to fight his enemies...

They really pissed me off, they were so closedmined about the movie that they refused to give it a try, clamoring that the film RUINED Hellblazer and would go down as the worse comic book movie in history... :roll: No offense you guys, but people who expect EVERY DETAIL to be captured perfectly on the screen annoy me (is thinking of a friend who hates the third harry potter movie for the same reason) Personally, I haven't read the comic book, but hearing from their complaints, I felt that Constantine CAPTURED the spirit and the mood of the comics, which is important, and who knows.. this movie might produce more readers of the comics.

And about Spiderman.. what exactly do you not like about it? I loved the two movies, and i like Tobey Maquire as spiderman.. he didn't come off as a "***" to me...

Spitfire
02-20-2005, 08:00 PM
I just saw this movie today. It was nice to see another comic book movie that wasnt targeted at the MTV generation of teenagers who only like watching long drug out fight scenes with techno music blarreing in the backround. It seemed a little long but other then that it was actually really entertaining. I might buy it when it comes out. I never read Hell Blazer but I knew some of the characters. The influencer from Hell "I forgot his name" Was in Spawn for awhile and I think his character is the same one used in Dogma. I also liked the fallen angel, poor old Gab.
And The Worst Comic book movie ever is Lady Death :ohwell:

Brodie
02-20-2005, 09:04 PM
And about Spiderman.. what exactly do you not like about it? I loved the two movies, and i like Tobey Maquire as spiderman.. he didn't come off as a "***" to me...

Tobey McGuire just isn't Peter Parker Spider-Man. Peter Parker is funny....Tobey isn't. Spidey has emotion.....Tobey is monotonic. He has one expressoion on his face. and its this:

:|

IceFlash78
02-20-2005, 11:06 PM
Tobey McGuire just isn't Peter Parker Spider-Man. Peter Parker is funny....Tobey isn't. Spidey has emotion.....Tobey is monotonic. He has one expressoion on his face. and its this:

:|


Ahh.... guess I really should start buying/reading those spiderman comics.... seems like I'm missing alot :lol:

Anyways.. back to topic.. Yeah.. I was extremely surprised at the length of Constantine.. everytime i thought "Oh.. so this is the end then?" the movie just went on and on! Not that it was a bad thing.. I was surprised in a good way.

EZweasel
02-21-2005, 07:13 AM
it was a decent little movie..nothing great. I mean it doesn't realy compare to the beter super hero movies like Spiderman & hellboy.

Tony Danza
02-21-2005, 10:13 PM
Tobey McGuire just isn't Peter Parker Spider-Man. Peter Parker is funny....Tobey isn't. Spidey has emotion.....Tobey is monotonic. He has one expressoion on his face. and its this:

:|
You are 100% correct. I dont see how that could be argued against, but in his deffence I do belive he made a few more facial expressions in the 2nd movie compared to the origional.

Much like Jack Nicholson should have played as doctor octopus, right Voltron?

Voltron
02-21-2005, 11:42 PM
NO! You still can't name one damn good reason for Nicholson to play Octopus! One day I'm just going to nail you with a golf cart.

But I agree, McGuire is a pretty lousy Spider-Man. I guess I can see him playing the role of Highschool Peter Parker, where he's an unimportant nobody, but I've always been more of a fan of the cocky, older Peter Parker who show's his ego through sarcasm and subtle insults. McGuire just doesn't have that oomph to do it, you know?

ZodiacAngel
02-23-2005, 02:48 PM
I saw Constantine a few hours ago and I really liked it. The only problem I had with it was that the movie was a little drawn out in some places, but other than that it was fine.

damnhooligan
02-23-2005, 05:02 PM
Just got back from the theater. The movie seemed potentially forgettable, but entertaining nevertheless. Unfortunately, the sound at the theater must have been wonky because I couldn't hear or comprehend most of the non-yelling dialogue. I filled the lulls with my own MST3K-esque dialogue, complete with Crow and Servo handpuppets. Good times!

raphael_is_cool
02-23-2005, 06:09 PM
I filled the lulls with my own MST3K-esque dialogue, complete with Crow and Servo handpuppets. Good times!

And that makes a forgettable film? Wowsers :P

the Dark Knight
02-25-2005, 11:10 PM
Yeah, Constantine was pretty forgettable. A few decent moments, but overall, nothing great. The humoruous moments either weren't funny, or they were barely funny. The scares were predictable. It was kinda hard to keep up with the rules of the film, considering they kept changeing every scene, and Keanu Reeves having to describe it to us in his raspy, whispering voice wasn't all that helpful. To me, Keanu Reeves was good in 3 movies: the Matrix, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, and Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey.
However, I thaught the film did show signs of creativity, and when Constantine flipped off the Devil or whoever towards the end, that was actually funny.

And about Toby Maguire. I think he's a good actor. He's more of a subtle actor, letting his emotions show through his eyes, which to me, you can see more emotion through his eyes than any smile or frown could convey.

Kid Icarus
02-25-2005, 11:29 PM
You can't see jack doggypoo on Tobeys face, peroid. The boy can't act. Not to mention they're trying to make Spider-man in to these epic grand storys... when they're not like that. X-Men? Sure. Superman? Go for it.

Aunt May was the only belivable character in either of the Spider-Man movies. It's amazing that she manages to squeeze emotion outta the flat writing.

Brodie
02-25-2005, 11:39 PM
Trunks...I love you...

Demented Utrom
02-25-2005, 11:53 PM
If a Studo makes a comic book movie they should follow the comic.Instead of making up their own stuff for it.

ZariusTwo
02-26-2005, 12:05 AM
Spider-Man 2>Lord of the Rings

Barkworm
02-26-2005, 01:06 AM
Why the hell do you have to compare everything to LotR? Since you know that about 90% of the people here love those movies it's nothing but trolling.

Kid Icarus
02-26-2005, 01:14 AM
Trunks...I love you...
:lol:

What can I say? Sometimes my brain kicks in and I say something worth saying. This post, is a prime example of one of those times my brain stays off ;).

Anyway, I've also got a personal problem with Spiderman 2. I work at Burger King... and I worked there durring the SM2 promotion. We'd been losing people left and right when that started, so we were REALLY understaffed. :dead:

Barkworm
02-26-2005, 01:24 AM
I always thought Tobey was a good Spidey but I full-heartedly hate Kirsten Dunst.

Spitfire
02-26-2005, 04:39 AM
I always thought Tobey was a good Spidey but I full-heartedly hate Kirsten Dunst.
Ditto that...she annoyed me even in Interview With a Vampire

Dane E5R
02-26-2005, 06:38 AM
Man, some of you people simply vex me. I couldn't understand how anyone could ever hate Lord of the Rings. And the Spider-Man movies are marvelous.

Brodie
02-26-2005, 09:16 AM
Marvelous....That a pun?

I like the Spider-Man movies......just not McGuire.

ZariusTwo
02-26-2005, 11:59 AM
Why the hell do you have to compare everything to LotR? Since you know that about 90% of the people here love those movies it's nothing but trolling.

It's opinion.

I'm a novel purist, the movies suck, too much was changed etc, etc, suffice to say, I'm not one of the sheep that got deluded into thinking those films were the second coming of Jesus.

It's opinion. Deal with it.

愛
02-26-2005, 12:04 PM
Yet you can never deal with an opinion.

This is so off-topic. Back to the actual Constantine film, please.

ZariusTwo
02-26-2005, 12:13 PM
Saw the movie through "other means", where are all the Matrix comparisons coming from on other forums?

If anything, Hellblazer is probably part of what Inspired the Warchowskies anyway (them being comic fans in the first place)

Barkworm
02-26-2005, 12:26 PM
It's opinion.

I'm a novel purist, the movies suck, too much was changed etc, etc, suffice to say, I'm not one of the sheep that got deluded into thinking those films were the second coming of Jesus.

It's opinion. Deal with it.
Saying "I don't like the movies" is an opinion. Saying "X is better than LotR" in a thread that is completely unrelated to LotR is trolling (and it happened more than once). It's a fact that most people here love the movies and you're aware of that. Yet you're trying to provoke everyone by making these posts. Just stop.
And now back on topic.

ZariusTwo
02-26-2005, 01:11 PM
It's a fact that most people here love the movies and you're aware of that. Yet you're trying to provoke everyone by making these posts. Just stop.

Don't put words in my mouth, I was'nt "provoking" anybody, if anything, someone calling Tobey Macguire a "***" had the potentinal to provoke a LOT of people in diffetent manners, I did'nt see that as an offense myself, but it was the first off-topic post IN here, I'm not the only person who chose to add to what I thought was a BREIF off-topic debate, so don't you dare single me out because you love Lord of the Rings.

It's their own fault if they allow themselves to be provoked, the thread was already off-topic, I added to it in a SMALL measure, nothing more, nothing less

This is'nt a LOR site, if you want to yank Jackson's chain without anyone offering a different opinion, go to another forum.

I had dropped this argument anyway, something you have yet to do.

Voltron
02-26-2005, 01:14 PM
Ok, let's all cool down now...

ZariusTwo
02-26-2005, 01:19 PM
Spider-Man actually has been given huge, huge, dark storylines like that in EVERY media form, the 90's cartoon balanced it with the classic Spidy, but even IT got ridiculous at times (fortunatly, it ended before it could get really stupid, like "The Spider-Wars")