Super Hero turtles? (Warning a Big Image!) [Archive]

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 06:48 AM

There hasn't been a new topic in here for awhile so I decided to bring back the subject. Now you can clearly tell they are turtles, but what's with the letters?

http://mail.edu.kitee.fi/~inaski/tmnt7.jpg

Are they THE turtles?

Nturtle

11-24-2002, 07:19 AM

they better not be beause they look preety stupid :dead:

Apple Cat

11-24-2002, 08:50 AM

---delete this

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 09:15 AM

Yeah E is electricity, but what is G?

Kali

11-24-2002, 09:17 AM

Ugh. Okay, a few years ago I lost my trust in Laird's judgement. When he decided to bring the Turtles back, I was willing to trust him again. But if he ends up turning the Turtles into permanent super heroes without a VERY GOOD explaination, I'm gonna go back to not liking him.

I'm still hoping it's a in-comic storyline about marketing the Turtles like the media did with the Utroms.

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 09:19 AM

Ugh. Okay, a few years ago I lost my trust in Laird's judgement

Why was that?

Greed

11-24-2002, 09:20 AM

I don't like this look there all Fantastic 4 ish

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 09:22 AM

Yeah Im not fond of the idea either...

Tokka-B

11-24-2002, 10:05 AM

Well, it is pretty obvious why they look different, they are like super heroes in the UK version which this is, and in the U.S they are Ninjas, Heroes and ninjas clearly look different if you hadn't known... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 10:08 AM

LOL! :lol: Good one!

Kali

11-24-2002, 10:22 AM

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed. They've teased us with covers before. Mike falling, (making us think they were going the way of Image,) Karai reappearing, (acting like she was going to bring back the war with the Foot,) Splinter appearing in the crosshairs of a riflescope, (like he was going to be taken out.) They do it on purpose. As much as we hate teasers and cliffhangers, we love them just as much.

But if Laird takes away the ninja aspect of the Turtles, there are going to be lots of unhappy fans.

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 10:26 AM

Im sure he knows this. I like to think that it's a joke of some sort.

Tokka-B

11-24-2002, 10:27 AM

Wait, I think i'm lost, what is the picture of again??? :-?

MzTheInsomniac

11-24-2002, 10:29 AM

where do u find these covers anyways? :-?

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 10:30 AM

Cover of TMNT #7 Pencilled by Peter Laird, Painted by by Michael Dooney.

MzTheInsomniac

11-24-2002, 10:32 AM

i know that but where do u get these images?

Jephael

11-24-2002, 10:35 AM

Odds are, it'll be like some kinda dream sequence somebody has like the dreams everyone was having in Volume 2, #1.

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 10:42 AM

where do u find these covers anyways? :-?

I found this from Blast from the past page.

MzTheInsomniac

11-24-2002, 10:45 AM

i need to look at the blast from the past page more often then

Kali

11-24-2002, 11:00 AM

Blast From The Past?!? o.O *goes to check* I just checked that today! And I was certain it wasn't there when I checked the page last week.

Jephael

11-24-2002, 11:08 AM

The latest one is Blast #62 (http://www.planetracers.com/blast/blast62.html), and the pic is right under the one of Doctor Dome (which BTW was a prop for the unused scene at the end of the first TMNT film)

Shellfox

11-24-2002, 11:47 AM

what kind of power is melting? Maybe theres more to it, but given the pic he got robbed

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 12:34 PM

Blast From The Past?!? o.O *goes to check* I just checked that today! And I was certain it wasn't there when I checked the page last week.

I think so too. I chekked it again today, and there it was.

Sparvid

11-24-2002, 02:46 PM

:-? :-? :-?

Have I missed some info somewhere? I mean, I haven't seen anything that suggests that this will be something "permanent"...

And I think it looks like a F on the electro-turtle :P

Karpo_007

11-24-2002, 02:48 PM

Yeah, we all hope it's not permanent. And the letter is clearly E.

Nickokapo

11-24-2002, 05:17 PM

Wow!
They look so...
sooooooo...
...
Stupid! :D
I like it, i wonder if they'll really become super heroes or it'll be a different thing :ohwell:
The letters might be the first letter of their superhero names.

Greed

11-24-2002, 05:21 PM

yeah thats it there evil super hero clone things

Jephael

11-24-2002, 05:25 PM

I can't help but wonder which is which in that pic. I'm kinda guessing though that Mike's the one with the electrical powers and Don's the one with a G on his belt (the cape and cowl also remind me of the Dark Turtle in the toon)

Nickokapo

11-24-2002, 05:34 PM

My guess is:
Leo: the turtle with the melting arms :P
don: the turtle with the mask and the 'G' in the belt
mike: the turtle with the electrical powers and the 'F' or 'E' in the belt
raph: the hulk-ish turtle
Or they could be the turtle's evil supertwins like slash said!Who knows! :P

Greed

11-24-2002, 05:49 PM

I think the muscle one is Leonardo because of the shirt but then again it would be for mirage so color wouldn't matter because they all were red masks & brown pads

Nickokapo

11-24-2002, 05:52 PM

I thought about that too, specially because of the shirt's color...but since it's mirage that might not have anything to do...i just thought that kind of powers would fit raph more :P but he might be leo

Greed

11-24-2002, 05:56 PM

maybe the one melting isn't really melting maybe he lkie the marvel villain Sand Man I don't know just a guess

Nickokapo

11-24-2002, 06:05 PM

Yeah, he can't be melting or else his hands would last him like 3 minutes :P i just said that just to give a description or something...maybe he has glue-like powers :D

Tokka-B

11-24-2002, 06:24 PM

Who even cares?? This is from the UK show, right? :roll: :roll:

Kali

11-24-2002, 06:27 PM

No, it's the cover for the next issue of the US comic.

Tokka-B

11-24-2002, 06:31 PM

Oh oops, sorry guys for the insults!! :sick: :( Then it does have an important purpose to be argued about! :wink:

Kali

11-24-2002, 06:39 PM

Not really that important. They just like argueing. :lol:

Greed

11-24-2002, 06:43 PM

to be honest the picture gives me mixed amotions

Nturtle

11-24-2002, 07:03 PM

I'm sorry but if they make the turtles into super heros next thing you know I'll have Peter Larid's head on a stick!!! :evil:

Greed

11-24-2002, 07:25 PM

not if I beet you to it

Kali

11-24-2002, 07:30 PM

Can I have dibs on the rest of his body? *holds up a lighter* :evilgrin:

Greed

11-24-2002, 07:35 PM

what good is a fire with out fuel duhhhh

Tokka-B

11-24-2002, 07:43 PM

azure turtle

11-24-2002, 07:44 PM

Heh... I'm not going to pass judgement 'til I read the issue first. Don't judge a book by its cover. ;)

Greed

11-24-2002, 07:45 PM

stay out of this you vilents hater

Tokka-B

11-24-2002, 07:47 PM

Hey, at least he has a good point Slash... :lol:

Nturtle

11-24-2002, 07:47 PM

Ok, sorry guys but this is getting way out of hand...We are already claiming dibs on his body parts just because we think they look like superheroes, sheesh, that's a little cruel to the guy who started it all, no?

guilty as charged!! :P

I think kali is right, the covers recently have all been ways to get people intrested, like tiny cliffhangers. Hopefully this is another

azure turtle

11-24-2002, 07:50 PM

stay out of this you vilents hater
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, including me. :razz: You don't see me jumping on your back now, do you?

Kali

11-24-2002, 07:57 PM

And we were just JOKING! We're not gonna hunt down Laird. As a reader I know how annoying and upsetting teasers can be. But as a writer and would-be comic artist, I know how pleasurable it is to annoy and upset my readers strictly for shock value.

Greed

11-24-2002, 07:59 PM

joking right :trolleye:

Jephael

11-25-2002, 06:36 AM

Another thing too: If you've read the letters section of Vol.4 #5, you'd know that Peter Laird doesn't tolerate people bitching and complaining about his book.

Kali

11-25-2002, 08:29 AM

*opens her mouth to do a bit more bitching and complaining but thinks better of it* Well, he should learn that it comes with the territory. Honestly, a grown man whining about a few bad letters...

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 08:38 AM

But his going to get more of them if the TMNT will stay that way. And the one turtle isn't melting, he clearly has power of water.

Nickokapo

11-25-2002, 09:12 AM

Water powers!sweet!
He doesn't have to get up from bed at 3 am to get a glass of water! 8)

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 11:20 AM

Im not still feeling too good about ths... But there is no reason we shouldn't trust that Laird knows what's best for his comic. I mean, Does he have any reason to ruin it?

Nickokapo

11-25-2002, 11:23 AM

I dunno...maybe they're not even going to become superheroes, or will go back to normal after some time...i thought splinter was gonna die when i saw the cover of that other comic of vol 4, can't remember which one, but he didn't, so who knows

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 11:25 AM

Yeah I hope it's just a teaser.

HorseTechie

11-25-2002, 11:34 AM

Well.. there may be one of those pics at Laird's blast from the past, but thie one opening this thread was gotten from http://mail.edu.kitee.fi/~inaski/tmnt7.jpg

BUt I also agree... I'm not a big fan of superhereos. Batman, Xmen, and DareDevil are about as far as I will go.. all the rest just annoy me. But I think they are also doing another gag for the covers. Surely Laird will not make them permanent superheroes, would he? :-?

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 11:38 AM

I didnt want to link to the Blast from the past page so I uploaded to my own web space. The inaski part, My name Ilpo Naski.

And I like Batman, Spiderman and JLA but the Super Hero thing wouldn't work with TMNT.

heretic888

11-25-2002, 12:18 PM

well, you never know.....

HorseTechie

11-25-2002, 12:21 PM

I didnt want to link to the Blast from the past page so I uploaded to my own web space. The inaski part, My name Ilpo Naski.

Ahhh.. then why not just supply the URL to Laird image from his site, rather than image linking it in? *shrug* Just a way so peeps would know where it's coming from. :P

heretic888

11-25-2002, 12:26 PM

geez, have a lil' faith in dah man. I mean he DID co-create the characters, so he knows whats best i think.

HorseTechie

11-25-2002, 12:27 PM

Whoo.. whaaa..? :-?

heretic888

11-25-2002, 12:28 PM

poo.

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 01:17 PM

I think he is talking about Peter Laird. And I agree, I can't believe he would change the TMNT so drasticly.

heretic888

11-25-2002, 01:23 PM

damn skippy.

Kali

11-25-2002, 01:33 PM

I agree, Laird wouldn't change his concept of TMNT. But remember, he didn't create it alone. There are aspects of TMNT that left with Kevin Eastman, that we probably won't see again in the comics. I'm still seein some of Laird's behavior concerning his "takeover" all the TMNT as a bit childish, but that's my opinion.

heretic888

11-25-2002, 01:36 PM

if the tmnt were gonna go 'superpowered' i'd like to see something like the proposal for the fourth tmnt movie.... or some kinda ninja-related powers or esp.... and not goofy costumed 'justice shall prevail!!' nonsense.

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 01:38 PM

Wel he didn't actually take over the TMNT rights, They lived far from each other, Eastman was giving his time to Heavy Metal, Of course there was some diffrences, Next mutation probably was the biggest one. Of course I have also heard that Laird didn't like Body count. So maybe the TMNT wont be overly Violent in the future.

heretic888

11-25-2002, 01:52 PM

well, the tmnt have NEVER been psycho-violent like they were in Body Count. they are violent and occasionally curse, but it was kinda extreme in body Count. Laird will prolly keep it like it was in the original comics.

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 01:55 PM

Yeah. I have alwasy thinked that he wrote most of the original stories.

Kali

11-25-2002, 01:57 PM

I know Laird didn't takeover the rights to TMNT forcefully. But I can't help but get this image of him sitting in Mirage Studios (or whatever it's called,) laughing manically, saying, "Now I can do things MY way! And no one can stop me! Bwahahahaha!"

*ahem* Yeah.

heretic888

11-25-2002, 01:58 PM

oh no!! its diabolical evil Pete!!!!!!!! :o

yeah, i think Laird wrote a lotta the general plotlines... but Eastman fleshed out the characters a lot... and it shows.

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 02:02 PM

In some comic I read about the proces of making a TMNT comic. First Pete wrote the story, Then Kevin did thumbnails, then they both pencilled and inked half of it.

And personally, If Laird's way is like the original comics and less like Bodycount im ok with it. This will change if this Super hero thing will be permanent.

heretic888

11-25-2002, 02:04 PM

yeah, but i think Eastman was resposible for fleshing out a lotta the characters. read stories where kevin helps another writer out and this shows. the tmnt in the new comic just seem very..... bland. i hope pete improves this. i mean, the overall plot is really, really good... but the characters themselves are sorta being bland.

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 02:06 PM

Of course it wont ever be as good as the first volume, but it is ok. It's still TMNT and has the same feeling. But still it's little diffrent.

heretic888

11-25-2002, 02:10 PM

making the tmnt 'public' is interesting.... i wonder where this is gonna go and what kinda character growth will result.

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 02:15 PM

Yeah. I hope the Volume 4 sells well enough, So it wont get cancelled like the 2:nd volume.

heretic888

11-25-2002, 02:16 PM

oh, i dont think we have to worry about that. the first two issues sold out if i remember correctly.

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 02:17 PM

I know. I hope the sales continue that way.

Eye of Sarnath

11-25-2002, 02:30 PM

Woah... freaky. I leave for a couple of minutes and when I come back, the TMNT have superpowers.

Karpo_007

11-25-2002, 02:38 PM

We don't know whats behind that thing yet..

Nturtle

11-25-2002, 03:16 PM

hopefully they won't!!

Shellfox

11-25-2002, 03:26 PM

Watch the whole comic be someones dream

Jephael

11-25-2002, 03:28 PM

That's what I'm guessing. I mean if you look at it this way, That might actually what Jay might expect the turtles to be before he meets them.

tekcop

11-25-2002, 07:00 PM

Shellfox

11-25-2002, 07:27 PM

Who says you can't be a ninja and have super powers?

Tokka-B

11-25-2002, 07:34 PM

Maybe this is simply a comic to attract European customers? They call them heroes there anyway... :-?

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 06:51 AM

Three reasons why I'm not worried about this:
1) There will a new cartoon, toys, games, etc. and it'd be extremely stupid to change the comic turtles now.
2) Peter loves these characters.
3) They're the Teenage Muntant Ninja Turtles.

And Karpo, you earlier on this thread you said that Pete designed the cover. Are you sure? I thought Jim designed all but the first one.

Oh ok you are probably right. As i said, I am buing the new vloume, but not reading it yet. I have MANY volume 1 and 2 comics to go before I can start really reading it. I only read Volume 4 #1 before i made this decision and I know Laird pencilled that one. So I tought he would do them all.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 09:10 AM

Well, in a way, the turtles already have what some people would consider as 'superpowers'.

In the last issue of Vol. 4, Michelangelo fought blinded QUITE skillfully. In issue 5 of volume 1, all four turtles demonstrated they could go into a meditative trance-like state without the need to breathe oxygen. 9mm bullets bounce off their shells without affect. In issue 4 of volume 1, Raphael demonstrated he has the skill and power to literally cave in a steel door with a single kick. In issue 42 (i believe) of volume 1, all four turtles demonstrated strong intuitive/psychic capacities, especially Donatello.... in this issue, it was also revealed that illusions do not work on the turtles.

Most of the turtles' 'powers' seem to be psychic in nature, thus far.

Granted, all of this does not go as far as making the turtles 'superheros' but its just an indication its not as far from the characters as you may believe.......

HorseTechie

11-26-2002, 01:22 PM

Heh.. I was wondering about this once on the level of the Xmen. They are humans who have unique powers that are otherwise super-human. So in a sense, it's a farce to call them mutants. Whereas, a true mutant is a genetic anomaly, like the TMNT.

Hence... superhumans can be mutant, but can mutants be superhuman? Naah...

I also think the TMNT are super just being who they are. They don't hafta take on even wierder powers and wear funky spandex tights too... :tsweatdr:

heretic888

11-26-2002, 02:45 PM

yes, i would think a turtle having human-level intelligence and anatomy is pretty damn 'super' in itself.

but, the turtles more esoteric 'ninja powers' provide all the superpowers they need (although granted ANY human studying ninpo could acquire them as well......)

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 02:49 PM

Actually after that HT's comment, the "Turtles in tights" sounds like a inside joke... I mean the TMNT was originally created as a parody of Traditional Super Hero comics.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 02:50 PM

its probably a big joke Laird is thinking up for us.....

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 02:51 PM

Sure sounds like it.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 03:00 PM

maybe its some kinda publicity stunt the Ultroms put the TMNT up to.....

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 03:04 PM

Heh We'l see.

azure turtle

11-26-2002, 11:03 PM

Now that I think about it... The weird costumes remind me of the Archies comics, when the Turtles were forced to wrestle on Stump Asteroid. They wore strange costumes for the wrestling match... Afterwards, all of them except Raphael got rid of the costumes. Maybe the Turtles are going to be doing something that will temporarily require strange costumes??

Jephael

11-26-2002, 11:44 PM

Right but judging from the pic, the turtles themselves are changed physically. One's got some kinda clay power, his brother next to him is bulked up and the one infront has electrical energy.