Saki is a refined and successful "businessman [Archive]

Lanagirl

11-26-2002, 09:22 AM

:o :evilgrin: 8) I feel so happy as if i won 100 million dollars!!! I wish i won. lol. this overview is fantastic, i didn't expect they would give the details about the show. They say that 26 episodes-are only min. I'm sure it's our new hope. I bet the show will be super and unusual. I wonder how old Saki is there,who is this new Hun?
I just don't get how Shred can be a businessman :lol: He is the sweetest criminal but a businessman.... How do you think, how shredder will look like in the new episodes... as a businessman,he should wear his suit(it means we'll be able to see his face more often) and as the dearest shred-he should wear the metal mask and armor,shouldn't he?
I wonder where did Bebop and Rocksteady go? What happened to Krang,to the technodrome,to robots? They can't pretend that they did not exist.
:wink:
Express your feelings,guys
what do you expect? what do you think? what else have you heard about the show?

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 09:27 AM

There are pictures how Shredder and Saki will look at the official page. And he was kin of "business man" in the original TMNT, of course now he is a much bigger one. And Bebop and Rocksteady will never exist in that TMNT universe.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan

11-26-2002, 09:28 AM

I am trying to keep an open mind. It seems that a lot of people are coming together to give us an awesome TMNT product. The only thing that awaits us now is whether the fan base will be there when the new cartoon debuts. And, perhaps, it will be. But how long will it stay?

It will be hard to judge the cartoon by the first episode alone. The show hasn't been given enough time to build up steam yet. But the second episode (or even the third) should give us a pretty clear idea on whether or not the show will be a hit.

I am intrigued by several developments (namely this new Shredder, Hun, the new Baxter, April's new look); pretty much anything that wasn't the old cartoon. I am interested in knowing which direction the show will take.

Until then, we can only wait (and hope!) that things turn out okay.

"Didn't think I could say it, didja?" - Michaelangelo, from "It Came from Beneath the Sewers"

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 09:40 AM

Baxter looks exactly like he should look. Not some wimpy nerd. The shredder, the armor looks too heavy, but other than that i think it will be ok. April is younger this time around, but sha has been described as "Big sister" Im not worried.

Mondo_Gecko

11-26-2002, 09:58 AM

They have to have Bebop & Rocksteady in one episode and Krang and the Technodrome too. I'll be so upset if they don't

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 10:24 AM

Then you'l be upset.

Mondo_Gecko

11-26-2002, 10:32 AM

Karpo tell me though you did like Bebop & Rocksteady right?

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 10:59 AM

They were ok in the first season. Stupid, yeah byt they could still fight for themself. After first season that changed. The were week idiots who couldn't fight. And the new show is based in original TMNT so they won appear in it.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 11:12 AM

thank buddha for that.

Kameko

11-26-2002, 11:15 AM

thank buddha for that.

:lol:

raphael90

11-26-2002, 11:20 AM

Bebop and Rocksteady were some of my favorite characters! I thought they were even cooler before Shredder mutated them...they provided great comedy relief on the evil guys side. They were pretty wussy at times.

Mondo_Gecko

11-26-2002, 11:36 AM

Yeah i loved Bebop & Rocksteady the new cartoon won't b ethe same without them.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 11:54 AM

i think that's the point. its not SUPPOSED to be the same. its based on an entirely different 'universe'.

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 12:26 PM

Yeah i loved Bebop & Rocksteady the new cartoon won't b ethe same without them.

Excatly. And thats what's good about it.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 12:36 PM

damn skippy

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 12:46 PM

IF you please would let me know what the h*ll are you talking about? Whos skippy? :-? :wink:

heretic888

11-26-2002, 12:57 PM

its American slang. it basically means 'damn straight' or 'hell yeah'.

Lanagirl

11-26-2002, 01:10 PM

:o You say that there are pictures showing how Saki and Shred will look like in the show. Can you give us the address? I'd like to look at them. where can i find such kind of information?
PS:I wonder if there is any love in this cartoon between our heroes?
If the show is based on comics then :roll: it is not for the kids :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
oh those russians lol
always feel lack of love... :goofygri:

heretic888

11-26-2002, 01:16 PM

its at ninjaturtles.com

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 01:19 PM

You didn't know? The pictures have been there for few weeks.

Joos_Valgaeren

11-26-2002, 01:21 PM

you can find these images at www.ninjaturtles.com, just click on the "SNEAK PEEK PREVIEW" link at the top of the page

i have to admire the producers for attempting to try something new with new characters, and a totally different approach...however, and thats a big however, Rocksteady,Bebop,Krang,the Technodrome and maybe some of our secondary characters from the old series, such as Leatherhead,the Rat King and Slash, etc, will make some cameo appearance.

it'll be a shame if they dont, in a retro sense,

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 01:25 PM

Actually they are not doing really nothing new, they will make it more like original TMNT. The first cartoon didn't even try to do that.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 01:28 PM

no, they wont.

listen. the new tmnt animated series is based VERY STRONGLY on the original black and white indie Mirage tmnt comic book series of the mid-80's. why? because that's how Laird wanted it and he wants to keep the various tmnt media as close to the 'real' characters as possible.... although compromises are made (such as with Mike's character).

Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, and the Technodrome will NOT be in the show at all. Neither will Slash (they categorically stated the four TMNT will be the only mutant turtles in the entire series).

However, since the Rat King and Leatherhead were originally Mirage characters, they MIGHT (and probably will) be in the show.

Just dont expect a rehash of the old cartoon. its dead and gone.

Mondo_Gecko

11-26-2002, 01:31 PM

I was reading the overview, i saw it before but never bothered to read it. The Vehicles sound cool, the toys should be even better, ut i will mi ss the Turtle Van though.

But Shredder as a buisnessman sounds stupid he was never one to begin with. It sounds like a rip of Kingpin from Spider-Man.

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 01:31 PM

Yeah it's time to move on, and i hope they will do it right this time. The original cartoon had it's moments, but This cartoon has potential to be a great one. Lets' hope for the best.

Joos_Valgaeren

11-26-2002, 01:34 PM

here here

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 01:36 PM

heretic888

11-26-2002, 01:40 PM

in the palladium TMNT rpg, they describe Saki's 'business' career in more detail.....

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 01:43 PM

Maybe I should look in to that someday...

heretic888

11-26-2002, 01:47 PM

it gives you many interesting insights into the characters, with profiles on the TMNT, April, Casey, Splinter, Shredder, the Foot, Baxter, and a typical TCRI alien.

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 01:48 PM

I will try to find a copy somewhere. Could be intresting.

tekcop

11-26-2002, 02:39 PM

But Shredder as a buisnessman sounds stupid he was never one to begin with. It sounds like a rip of Kingpin from Spider-Man.

I like Shredder being a buisiness man. It could playout kind of like Daredevil (or Spider-man) and the Kingpin or the Gargoyles and Xanatos. It'd also give the writers a good excuse to keep death out of the story line because Saki'd be too well protected and there wouldn't be much face-to-face fighting between the Turtles and Shredder.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 03:14 PM

yeah, you're probably right about that one. The turtles probably end up fighting Hun a lot more than Saki.

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 03:32 PM

That will most probably be the case. Maybe there will be some big fight at the end of a season.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 03:40 PM

wouldnt it be funny if issue 1 happened at the end of the season??!! :lol:

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 03:43 PM

It could happen. They wouldn't even have to show his death. The comic doesn't.

heretic888

11-26-2002, 03:50 PM

yeah, well, we'll see.......

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 03:57 PM

There needs to be some kind of season Finale, That would do the job. Well we can always speculate, but it's still pretty far away..

heretic888

11-26-2002, 04:03 PM

maybe splinter or karai comes in and offs the shredder?

Karpo_007

11-26-2002, 04:07 PM

We can always hope...

Sparvid

11-26-2002, 07:28 PM

I wonder where did Bebop and Rocksteady go? What happened to Krang,to the technodrome,to robots? They can't pretend that they did not exist.
:wink:
Oh yeah? Watch me! ;) :lol:

the_minimizer

11-27-2002, 12:23 PM

I was skeptikal about the new cartoon too, but I think Shredder deserves a break. He's lived in Krang's shadows far too long. We never really got to know Shredder. All we knew was Shredder AND Krang. I think Shredder's potential never got to show. Besides that, the characters in the original cartoon were handicapped. They were always defeated by stupidity and bumbling and it was a joke. Shredder was portrayed as a wannabe bad guy who relied on an alien brain and no matter what he did, he was made a fool of and failed miserably. Shredder is going to get to show his true colors in the new cartoon.

heretic888

11-27-2002, 12:32 PM

Shredder will show his 'true colors' in the new animated series because he is based on the Mirage universe. The reason the old cartoon villians were always defeated by stupidity was because they were indeed stupid characters.

Jephael

11-27-2002, 01:05 PM

That also brings an interesting idea to mind. What if this time around they make it so the goodguys don't know that Saki is Shredder?

heretic888

11-27-2002, 01:09 PM

well, Splinter would know.

Karpo_007

11-27-2002, 01:32 PM

Hmm... Not necessarily. Splinter will Know that Saki killed Yoshi, But maybe Saki Wasn't Shredder yet. The plot difers from mirage, So that can indeed be a possiblilty.

heretic888

11-27-2002, 01:33 PM

maybe they dont even know there is a Shredder?

Karpo_007

11-27-2002, 01:41 PM

Might be. But then again it says in the over view page it says: Saki is a refined and successful "businessman," but as the Shredder, he is one of the most feared criminals in the world.

So it's unlikely that TMNT doesn't know Shredder. Of course he might just move in New York when the show takes place... Who knows.