Explosions hit London!

[Raph's Girl]

Oi!! About maybe half hour ago reports started to come out about explosions in London. There were 6 in the Subway System (which is now to a stand still), and 3 buses have been blown up. There are several injuries and even casulties (don't know how many).... Oi... :o

[That Matt Guy]

The bodies of six gods were found after their spaceship crashed just outside London.

[Raph's Girl]

Just moments ago there was another explosion!

90 deaths at Aldgate Station alone!

[GK Punk]

Do they think it's a terrorist attack?

[Raph's Girl]

Do they think it's a terrorist attack?

Yes...they at first said it was a power surge but with the bus explosions they have stated that they're not ruling out a terrorist attack.

[GK Punk]

That's kinda scary.

[Raph's Girl]

Ok...now they're saying 90 casualties (meaning they were injured), and possably 20 dead...but of course it might rise since this occured at rush hour.

Here's a list of areas hit:
King's Cross
All Street
Tavistock Square
Aldgate Station
Liverpool street
Russell Square.

[Anarky]

Update: some 90 casualties and two confirmed deaths. Source CNN

And I wonder who it is, because if it is a terrorist attack someone needs to claim responsibility for the attack.

[GK Punk]

I am more afraid of what will happen in the comings days/weeks/months IF this is a terrorist attack.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Goddammit. Here we go again. *sigh* Fu*king terrorists.

[Anarky]

Goddammit. Here we go again. *sigh* Fu*king terrorists.

Nothing has been confirmed yet. Nobody ever said that it's a terrorist attack, but the possibility is there.

[Raph's Girl]

Tony Blair has just said in his speach that what occured in London was a terrorist attack.

There are also rumors that moments before the attacks Scotland Yard was warned by Isreali officials. But that's just a rumor as the Chief of Police has stated he is not aware of such a warning.

[Anarky]

Tony Blair has just said in his speach that what occured in London was a terrorist attack.

Does he know more than we do? I don't think so, at least not at this point. And he said "it is reasonably clear that is was a terrorist attack". That doesn't mean, that it was a terrorist attack.

And it could also be someone or some people that wanted the G8 not to happen.

[That Matt Guy]

It was a terrorist attack. It's causing terror.

[GK Punk]

Does he know more than we do? I don't think so, at least not at this point. And he said "it is reasonably clear that is was a terrorist attack". That doesn't mean, that it was a terrorist attack.

And it could also be someone or some people that wanted the G8 not to happen.

That makes it a terrorist attack....

[Sewer Bull]

Exactly what AC says. Al-Kaida is not the only terrorist group in the world.

[Raph's Girl]

For those worried about relatives, you can email sky news
and they will put a message up at the bottom of the screen asking the
person you're worried about to contact home.

[Raph's Girl]

Apperantly an unknown group is claiming responsibility for the attack in the name of Al Quaida. :ohwell:

[Anarky]

Apperantly an unknown group is claiming responsibility for the attack in the name of Al Quaida. :ohwell:

The letter has not been confirmed as authentic yet. So, we are as clever as before.

I just want people to remain open-minded, not that they go all "We hate Al-Qaida" and blaming them for something they haven't done.

[Raph's Girl]

According to a Sky reporter there was a suicide bomber on the bus that had it's top blown off! :o

[That Matt Guy]

According to a Sky reporter there was a suicide bomber on the bus that had it's top blown off! :o

Sounds more like Hamas than Al Qaeda.

[Raph's Girl]

Sky news has just reported that 45 people are confirmed dead with 1000 injured.

[damnhooligan]

Sweet Jesus. I wonder if the bases out here (I sure as f*ck know RAF Mildenhall will be) will raise the Force Protection. We've been at Bravo for a couple years now, and sh*t like this is exactly what'll kick USAREUR/USAFE up a knotch into FP Charlie.

But yeah, this is a sad day. Worse yet, I had actually planned to be in London on the 19th-21st, but I dare say that's postponed for now.

[SeaThreePeeO]

Hi everyone

As some of you may know I don't live far away from London.

At first the news was confusing and we were all lead to believe that it was a power surge and failure on the London Underground. As the morning went on more shocking news came out!

So far the news is - four confirmed bomb explosions - three on underground trains - one on a London City double decker bus (the explosion tore the top half of the bus apart, it is believed no one survived the blast).

300 minor injuries, 45 serious injuries, 33 confirmed dead on the underground and no figures have been released about the bus toll. We have just been told there are no longer people trapped on the underground.

[Jo Dawn]

But yeah, this is a sad day. Worse yet, I had actually planned to be in London on the 19th-21st, but I dare say that's postponed for now.

It is a sad day indeed. My thoughts go out to the injured and families of them and the dead.

And, yes, I'm supposed to be going there on the 29th- August 7 or so... Dunno about that... We'll see I suppose.

[Demented Utrom]

It is a sad day indeed. My thoughts go out to the injured and families of them and the dead.

And, yes, I'm supposed to be going there on the 29th- August 7 or so... Dunno about that... We'll see I suppose.

Don't even bother, going there if there is wackos blowing stuff up.
They need armed guards, on buses now.
Might as well have bomb detectors on buses now.
These guys should, be locked up in looney bin with all the other wackos.
There is always something, with the MiddleEast causing trouble.
Why don't they mind there, own business and leave other people alone.
Riding the bus, is not safe anymore either.

[Sewer Bull]

Don't even bother, going there if there is wackos blowing stuff up.


Methinks Londoners can feel much safer now, because attacks have already happpened there and won't repeat again soon. Al-Qaeda doesn't hit twice the same place in short time.
I'm afraid Warsaw is next on the list, or Sydney :(

[愛]

Oh man, this is a terrible day, indeed. We live in a very dangerous world... :(

[raphael_is_cool]

It's most likely Al-Queda considering the similarities with the Madrid bombings.

It's terrible. My sister was meant to be in London. Fortunately she wasn't there when it happened.

[Voltron]

Jesus, this is awful. I'm at a loss for words. What possesses people to do this?!

[Doppleganger]

These are dark times indeed. These are people are crazy. :ohwell:

[Anarky]

It's most likely Al-Queda considering the similarities with the Madrid bombings.

It's terrible. My sister was meant to be in London. Fortunately she wasn't there when it happened.

My Grandparents were at Kings Cross last week. My Grandmother is in shock now. She hasn't said much asidefrom "We're so lucky" since she got the word.

As for the Al Qaida-"evidence": Can only Michael Jackson do the Moonwalk?

[Sewer Bull]

As for the Al Qaida-"evidence": Can only Michael Jackson do the Moonwalk?

You mean - IRA?

[ThirdMarioBro]

What I'm afriad of is that Bush will use this as an excuse to keep his war going and start drafting.

AMN actually has two staffers who work and live in London and we're scared to death because one of them might actually have been on that Double Decker bus he takes to work, and we haven't heard from him since this happened. Frankly, I'm scared sh*tless right now.

[Anarky]

You mean - IRA?

Not necessarily. I could think of at least three groups that might want to see London burning. Some of them are more some less likely.

militant G8-opposers: Where is the police right now? Exactly, in Gleneagles. So the rest of the british island is more or less unprotected. So the british island, aside from Gleneagles is an ideal target.
"regular" terrorists: You know, Al Qaida, Hamas, IRA... and people alike.
Anti-olympia people: Now, I know this is very unlikely, but think about it. The day before, one learnt that the olympic games are held in London. And for olympic games, people tend to renovate and build new stuff. People who might be against that (I'm pretty sure that they are going to tear down old houses and replace them with new , expensive ones), might also want to get people away from London.

[damnhooligan]

^^^ Damn, I like the way you think, boy. e,f,b

You mean - IRA?
That's an entirely reasonable answer, as well. They're still actively recruiting and stockpiling weapons, last I heard a couple months ago.

Its anyone's guess right now. But I think the attacks occured yesterday not because of the G8 summit, but because protecting and focusing all their resources on the summit in Scotland left London and other parts of the country with weakened security. The G8 summit merely presented itself as the perfect time to strike. Could have been IRA or another armed Irish group, could have been a Timothy McVay character, could have been eco-terrorists, etc.

[That Matt Guy]

What I'm afriad of is that Bush will use this as an excuse to keep his war going and start drafting.

That's funny, I got the impression that Bush didn't even give a s*** about all of this.

[Anarky]

That's funny, I got the impression that Bush didn't even give a s*** about all of this.

He probably doesn't care, but he held his "We will bring them to justice"-speech. The more you hear it, the funnier it gets.

[Mecha Cow]

What happened is really terrible, I don't know what else to say. My condoleances to everyone who was affected by this.

[Dinny]

Don't even bother, going there if there is wackos blowing stuff up. They need armed guards, on buses now.

Yes, that's the answer, no one come to London, stay away. That's one of the most idiotic things I've heard. I went on buses and trains today, and I met up with friends in Hyde Park. The way I see it is that now is the safest time to go to London, the security forces are incredibly vigilant, and they were some of the greatest security forces in the world anyway. Something like this was inevitable in a city as important as London. By the way, we do have armed guards on buses, but there are 10s of thousands of buses in London, most of which are double decker. It's impossible to make them completely safe.

As for the theory that this happened because of the Olympics, that's highly unlikely. Nobody expected London to get the games, and an attack like this would have taken a long time to plan. Furthermore, those who are being moved out of their homes are being relocated to houses or flats which are far superior to their current homes. The houses ad flats which are being demolished are council estates in London's poorest area. So this attack would probably not have been carried out by anyone scared about losing their home.

[Jester]

Methinks Londoners can feel much safer now, because attacks have already happpened there and won't repeat again soon. Al-Qaeda doesn't hit twice the same place in short time.
I'm afraid Warsaw is next on the list, or Sydney :(
Makes sence....who are the most know American Allies in the "War on Terror"? England, Poland, and Austrellia (spelled soooo wrong)

[Misfit]

I'm a Brit and I go to London all the time. I was only there a few weeks ago. Luckily everyone I know is safe, apart from one dude I know on another forum who has been unaccounted for since...so hopefully he's okay and just not going on the computer or something. It's un-nevering, but I think a lot of people expected this to happen here eventually (I know I did). It's not going to stop me from going to London or any other major city...I go where I want, when I want. I refuse to live in fear of these cowardly scum.

My heart goes out to anyone affected.

[Anarky]

Al-Qaeda doesn't hit twice the same place in short time.

Has it been confirmed that it was the Al Qaida? I can't remember anyone confimring anything on the "who"-question.

Austrellia
Australia :D

As for the theory that this happened because of the Olympics, that's highly unlikely. Nobody expected London to get the games, and an attack like this would have taken a long time to plan.

Well, but people knew that London was competing for the games. And they could have planned in advance sort of "If we get the games, we're going to blow up London". Have you never made a "In case"-plan?

[Sewer Bull]

Has it been confirmed that it was the Al Qaida? I can't remember anyone confimring anything on the "who"-question.


Well... It wasn't. One of Al-Qaida's related groups claims on its website that they are responsible for London blasts, but they could be just bluffing as well, in order to gain some attention and free publicity.

There have been, however, two warnings addressed to Italy, formed by Al-Qaida's affiliated organizations: Read more here (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050708/wl_nm/security_britain_europe_dc_3;_ylt=AqSBosAzWshyPxkp YhVkOCi9Q5gv;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl ) They want to destroy Rome, as a home to the Holy See.

Well, IMO that would make some of Nostradamus and St. Malachy's prophecies come true. Nostradamus wrote that Rome will be destroyed in flames coming from the sky (nukes? those bastards might steal or construct one) and St. Malachy said that after the next pope (the one following Benedictus XVI), called Peter Romanus, the papacy will move from Rome to some other place. Why should it move from Rome anyway? Maybe because there will be no Rome at that time... :(

<OK, I quit my sick interpretations>

@ Jester - Spain was also a big supporter of American foreign policy. Until the bloody days of March 2004...

EDIT: Awww, forgot to put one important comment on Al-Qaida's warnings - they never warn before their attacks, so I was kinda astonished they warn Italy now.

[Dinny]

Well, but people knew that London was competing for the games. And they could have planned in advance sort of "If we get the games, we're going to blow up London". Have you never made a "In case"-plan?

Yes that's possible, but as I said before, those who will be effected by the building of Olympic sites will be relocated to better homes. No one in London didn't want the Olympics. Also with these sort of things there's no backing out at the last minute, they take months of planning and I imagine they cost lots of money. So if Paris had won, they couldn't have simply not done it.
As you said Anarky, they were most likely planned to coincide woth the G8 meetings. Over 1/2 of London's police went to Endinburgh, so the city was as defenceless as it could be. The fact that London won the plympics the day before made it even more dramatic from a terrorists point of view.

[Jester]

@ Jester - Spain was also a big supporter of American foreign policy. Until the bloody days of March 2004...
I remember....And after the attack and a new administration Spain pulled out...i think they want England, Poland, Austraila (thanks Anarky :P) to follow suit....

[damnhooligan]

Aww f*ck.

As of about 20 minutes ago (10pm GMT) police have ordered an evacuation of the city center of Birmingham, the UK's second largest city. They recieved intelligence regarding a potential bomb, rather than the usual "suspicious package" sort of stuff. Apparently, the police have been control detonating several items (probably boxes, backpacks etc) in the city centre.

Just... f*ck.

[Jester]

Any idea who this is??

[damnhooligan]

They're not releasing any information as to where they got their intelligence, but that's hardly expected of them at this point in time. No one's even sure there's any explosive devices in the area, but nevertheless, they're evacuating.

Let me be the first to say, evacuations f*cking suck. Even more so at night. Last year, I was evacuated from my apartment over half a dozen different times in six months. One was even on New Year's Eve.

When this is over, I think everyone owes Birmingham a pint.

EDIT: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8524232/ - A link to the story on MSNBC.

RE-EDIT: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1188565,00.html - The "bomb" was merely a box with wires sticking out and a switch, but the police defend their decision to evacuate the city.

[raphael_is_cool]

My mum's friend was telling me how a guy who lives a few doors away was actually on the bus that got blown up. He'd got off the stop before the guy set it off. He also said that he must've known who it was because he saw a guy with a bag looking shifty and fiddling inside it.

I don't know what this suicide bomber looked like. I still think Al-Queda are the most likely suspects. They're the most fanatical, enough to blow themselves up, and the same sort of approach has been used by them several times before. Screw moonwalk analyses.

[Anarky]

I don't know what this suicide bomber looked like. I still think Al-Queda are the most likely suspects. They're the most fanatical, enough to blow themselves up, and the same sort of approach has been used by them several times before. Screw moonwalk analyses.

Name three radical terrorist groups, their level of fanaticism and their "specialities" in trems of attack.

The reason why everybody goes "It was Al Qaida!" is that you hear most about them. It's not like they're the best, the strongest, the richest or anything, but they're just the most popular.

And the "Moonwalk-analysis" is quite accurate. I mean, how hard is it to blow yourself up? Push button, boom, end. Sure, it needs a strong mind to actually do that, but everyone can do this, it's nothing restricted to Al Qaida. Even children can do that, as you sometimes can see in the gaza-strip.

[raphael_is_cool]

Evidence seems to suggest Al-Queda is the most likely suspect. When you don't have anything definite to go on you look at the most likely culprit, judging by past experience. I've never heard of the IRA with suicide bombers.

If a terrorist group finds a method for getting their message across they're most likely going to use it again.

[Anarky]

Evidence seems to suggest Al-Queda is the most likely suspect. When you don't have anything definite to go on you look at the most likely culprit, judging by past experience. I've never heard of the IRA with suicide bombers.

You do know, that not only Al Qaeda has suicide bombers, right?

And of course people are looking in the direction of Al Qaeda, they're probably also looking in the direction of the IRA. But the apparent suspects (not the word "suspect", it doesn't mean that it was them) are suspected to have connections to Al Qaeda.

How the hell do you spell Al Qaeda anyways?

If a terrorist group finds a method for getting their message across they're most likely going to use it again.
Or they change it in order to reach the goal of the mission. I mean, I had great success writing letters on my computer, but from time to time, when I feel it's more useful, I write with my handwriting.

[Sewer Bull]

I've never heard of the IRA with suicide bombers.


Innovation is the key factor to all progress and development.

[raphael_is_cool]

Well, bottom line is:

You're a terrorist, you want to create terror and get your agenda/message across. If people then start saying it was someone else to blame you're gonna think of it as a failure.

So, while there have been similar bombing threats by Al Queda groups (I remember one in Leicester back in December) it seems they're following the same course of action.

I'm not saying without a doubt it was Al Queda but while they're the main suspect there's nothing to deny it. Terrorists would claim an event like this if it was not clear who it was. The goal isn't just to anonymously kill and injure many people during rush hour.

[Sewer Bull]

It's just occured to me that this year will be exactly the 400th anniversary of the Gunpowder Plot. I hope no one will try to succeed in field Guy Fawkes failed on 5th November 1605... :|

[Anarky]

Well, Scotland Yard apparently has made some... stuff. Well, they did a lot of work in the past few days. But yesterday, they did something really useful. They now know who the people were and khow they did it.

Apparently it was some Paqistanis with backpacks full of explosives who went all suicide-bomber.

And SY managed to arrest a brother of one of the bombers.

Great, I hope he talks. And hopefully he won't go all "We're the Al Qaida and sh*t"

[NightwatchersOnlygirl]

All those poor people on the tube trains and the 30 bus :cry: :cry:

[damnhooligan]

What the Christ!

More explosions in London as of today. 3 tube explosions, one bus. They don't seem to be as destructive as the last ones with only a couple injuries reported so far, but if I was in London (and weirdly enough, I was scheduled to in Surrey today but canceled my plans after the first bombings) I'd be pissed as hell.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189833,00.html

[ZariusTwo]

They were small scale at least, probably to warn us there going to keep coming...and in much bigger quantities

[Jo269976]

i was asleep when it happened... but luckily none of family were in it

[GK Punk]

i was asleep when it happened... but luckily none of family were in it

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