tmnt underrated

[bedbugjones]

:cry: tmnt was an Honorable Mention in BUZZWORTHY 2005: The Best Comics of the First Half of 2005 arent you fools reading it now i might have to buy two of each issue to increase sales who ever dosent read it is a disgrace :x
http://www.buzzscope.com/features.php?id=1086

[Aztec General]

That's cool that it got a shout out at least. TMNT comics rarely get any respect these days.

Ummmm..bedbug not to sound rude but could you make some use of grammar and/or punctuation? Your posts are difficult to read.

[bedbugjones]

That's cool that it got a shout out at least. TMNT comics rarely get any respect these days.

Ummmm..bedbug not to sound rude but could you make some use of grammar and/or punctuation? Your posts are difficult to read.

no i dont know how to use grammer and punctuation i had some pretty lame teachers growing up so its not my fault :cry:

[BigApple3AM]

DAMN you beat me to it!

[bedbugjones]

DAMN you beat me to it!

then maybe you shold stop sleeping on the job :lol:

[mogu-pills-of-life]

Well Bed Bug, look at it this way: The turtles are respected and were not on the overrated list. :roll:

[OA]

I'm surprised they were even mentioned at all...i mean, i'm a fan and all, but this volume for me, IMO, is very slow and at best disjointed....again I continue to read it, and I find the Tales to be a much better read, but for outsiders who are true TMNT fans to enjoy it that I find hard to believe...so let's just be happy that it got mentioned at all...

[Lord Nightwalker]

That's cool news. It's about time they got some recognition somewhere. And it's true, The TMNT is one of the most underrated comics properties of all time. All people think about is (stereotyping ahead) "ugghh, Silly little kids book"..and pass it up.

[OA]

That's cool news. It's about time they got some recognition somewhere. And it's true, The TMNT is one of the most underrated comics properties of all time. All people think about is (stereotyping ahead) "ugghh, Silly little kids book"..and pass it up.

I agree that as a whole, the TMNT property is very much underated in regards to great comics of all time....however, if I'm reading this right, this award is in regards to noteworthy comics of 2005 only...that would take into consideration only Volume 4 and not the entire run of comics...not even Tales...

[BigApple3AM]

Yeah TMNT has always been underrated in the comics dept. Considering it started out as a comic and became a billion dollar franchise spinning off more cartoons and toys than most marvel or dc big name properties I'm completely surprised it doesn't do better. I'm sure if Mirage pushed it correctly (gave it big name writers/artists) it would do better, but then it may become too commercialized. It's got that sort of underdog modest feel to it. Like it's out there only to tell stories not make money.

[bedbugjones]

I agree that as a whole, the TMNT property is very much underated in regards to great comics of all time....however, if I'm reading this right, this award is in regards to noteworthy comics of 2005 only...that would take into consideration only Volume 4 and not the entire run of comics...not even Tales...


yeah they havent been too good so far this year :(i mean if it was tales i would agree but its not so no

[OA]

Exactly... Tales is good book IMO...maybe even a very good book...but the reg series just doesn't do it for me...

[bedbugjones]

me like reg book its just been bad all this year and most of last year and they take way too long too come out. :evil:

[jestergoblin]

Is Larid even making money off the comics? I thought he was doing them for his own enjoyment.

[OA]

Well, I'm sure he's making something...though definately not the boatload he was making in the past...

[Space Lieutenant Josh]

In #22 he hinted that the new comic isn't turning a profit.

[bedbugjones]

O CRAP DO YA THINK THEYLL CANCELL IT :cry:

[Space Lieutenant Josh]

No, he does it because he wants to. If he doesn't want to do it anymore, he won't.

[bedbugjones]

tales is number 217 on the top 300 selling comics so thats kinda good(i think)

look here
http://www.newsarama.com/marketreport/july05top300.html

[Space Lieutenant Josh]

Wow, that is very good. Which one was 12? The Paris one.

Ah. My favorite personally was 9.

[bedbugjones]

yep the paris one i love the art in that one so cartoony i love cartoony


issue 9 i dident really like that one i love klunk but i wasent feeling it sorry

my fav is issue the one that leo is blind

[Jaf]

Yeah, n°5 & n°9 are my favorite tales. When Lawson is in full control, he's doing some wonderful dark and sour stories (loved TMNT vol.2 for that). One of the main reasons why TMNT is underrated is because many people expect it to be a mainstream superhero or a kiddy comic, when in fact it is an alternative, independant comic. Mirage could probably make it profitable by maintaining the small diffusion it had at first, but Laird has enough respect for TMNT readers (and I'm using «readers» instead of «fans» on purpose...) to keep it worldwide, even if it's costing him money. The rest of the franchise brings enough cash anyway. Another problem is the bad publicity that some self-proclaimed «fans» are doing to the books, always complaining about how baaaaad it is «Me die-hard TMNT fan wants action! Me wants big name comic book writers! Me wants realist art!» (Note : they did that some time ago, and it was called TMNT vol.3, it was produced by Image, and it was just plain mainstream uninspired, passion-less crap). Mirage should find europpean editors and translate it; that alone would triple the readership overnight. And they could push the political edge without getting the usual republican backlash :D

[Space Lieutenant Josh]

Yes indeed, I agree. TMNT is more art-comes-to-comics, with stories more about bitterness and being alone than anything else. I think it was in Sons of the Silent Age's lettercol that someone mentioned that TMNT are the thinking man's mutants.

[bedbugjones]

acually its been a while since i thinked


one of the reason its underrated is it gets almost no publisity the only magazine that features it is previews but only because they have too
no online comic sites feature it(i think)

[BigApple3AM]

Yeah, n°5 & n°9 are my favorite tales. When Lawson is in full control, he's doing some wonderful dark and sour stories (loved TMNT vol.2 for that). One of the main reasons why TMNT is underrated is because many people expect it to be a mainstream superhero or a kiddy comic, when in fact it is an alternative, independant comic. Mirage could probably make it profitable by maintaining the small diffusion it had at first, but Laird has enough respect for TMNT readers (and I'm using «readers» instead of «fans» on purpose...) to keep it worldwide, even if it's costing him money. The rest of the franchise brings enough cash anyway. Another problem is the bad publicity that some self-proclaimed «fans» are doing to the books, always complaining about how baaaaad it is «Me die-hard TMNT fan wants action! Me wants big name comic book writers! Me wants realist art!» (Note : they did that some time ago, and it was called TMNT vol.3, it was produced by Image, and it was just plain mainstream uninspired, passion-less crap). Mirage should find europpean editors and translate it; that alone would triple the readership overnight. And they could push the political edge without getting the usual republican backlash :D

That's a good insight, though I think more can be done with the TMNT. I wasn't a fan of Lawson until I read his Tales work. I also appreciate all types of art after having taken a few art classes after TMNT started so I can accept Lawson's different style and even enjoy it sometimes.

After reading Eastman's Artobiography it showed how the art wasn't as great as many people make it out to be on these boards. Don't get me wrong Eastman and Laird's style is my favorite for the TMNT, though nowadays I think it might be due more to nostalgia. Both have definitely grown as artists since then, but if you know your TMNT you know the first few issues were based on Frank Miller's Ronin style which was never my favorite to begin with.

Look forward to more posts by you Jaf, you're definitely an alternative to the other posters on these boards (not that they're opinions aren't any worse, just making observation).

[Jaf]

Just checked in Mirage's catalog; it seems Tales aren't doing so bad after all : some issues are sold out! And guess which ones? n°5 & 9, the Lawson ones. Guess we're more out there than it shows on the forums. 8)