TMNT Name Abriviations

[Jester]

OK, I was sitting around watching my OT TMNT DVDs and I noticed something. The guys never used the whole Leo, Don, Raph, Mikey name abriviations. In the 1st 2 seasons, I didn't notice any times those names were used. They are used in the movies, and the new toon, and posibily the Archie comics. But what is regarded by most as the most silly and kid oriented version of the green team, they call eachother by their full names....comments?

[Weapon X]

Well it's bean a long time since I've seen the other seasons, but I really don't remember them ever being said.

[XERO]

Well, Raph abbreviated Donatello's name once in Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X.

'Book 'em, Don-O!' :P

[Weapon X]

Wise guy ehh.

[Jester]

That's a pop culture refrence...but it may count....:P

[XERO]

Wise guy ehh.

No, I was there. :D

[Lady Venus]

No, I was there. :D

Yea sure you were Ben. ;)

[Space Lieutenant Josh]

Maybe to keep younger kids from getting confused. Or to score points with parents-- your kids sound smart saying stuff like "Michelangelo" and "Donatello."

[Weapon X]

Maybe to keep younger kids from getting confused.
What would be confusing?

[OA]

What would be confusing?

Yea if anything it would easier to remember....i mean the names are alot shorter and they dont end in "o" for the most part...

[Ryona]

It was probably to make the TMNT more unique and memorable at a time when the only ones who knew of the TMNT were from the comic community in the 80's.

Think about it. "Mikey" could be so many other characters out there. Now "Michaelangelo" is unique and when people hear it, they think of either the painter or the turtle.

Now that the TMNT are so popular and well known, many people will match up "Mikey" with our beloved ninja Michelangelo.

[Zelda]

I noticed that too when I bought the DVDs. It's interesting...makes them sound kinda formal haha. I like the way the abbrs were used in the movies... Leo, Mikey, Don (with an occasional Donny) and Raph. I hate in the new series (and I think some of the comics?) that they call Raph, Raphie.... he's just NOT a Raphie to me.... he's too macho for that! ;p

[Jester]

That's exactly why they call him Raphie...it's kinda a barb...:p

[Space Lieutenant Josh]

I meant it would be confusing if they used both names. Like if they called Mike "Mikey" sometimes, and "Michelangelo" other times, with "Mike" thrown in for good measure. Granted, most kids would be able to figure these little things out, but the really young ones might not get it.

[OA]

It was probably to make the TMNT more unique and memorable at a time when the only ones who knew of the TMNT were from the comic community in the 80's.

Think about it. "Mikey" could be so many other characters out there. Now "Michaelangelo" is unique and when people hear it, they think of either the painter or the turtle.

Now that the TMNT are so popular and well known, many people will match up "Mikey" with our beloved ninja Michelangelo.

Thats a good point but I don't think they were thinking that far down the line...I mean, if they knew how HUGE the tmnt would turn out to be, I wonder if they would've made the same decisions they did...you never..hindsight is 20/20... but again, good point.. :)

[MrPliggins]

There was one time , in the episode "Usagi Yojimbo", where Michaelangelo was going to fight the foot soldiers and Donatello said something like "Forget it, Mikey. Our friend Usagi's already taken care of it."

[Buslady]

That's one thing I didn't care for the old show...they never were a family.Family members call each other by shortened names or nicknames.

Splinter even referred to the turtles as HIS FRIENDS...not his sons. That was just wrong.



I call em Mike,Raph,Leo and Donnie. Ya know it's like they're part of my family in a way. I dunno...im wierd.

[Weapon X]

But no matter what I always think of them as brothers and Splinter their "Father".

[OA]

That's one thing I didn't care for the old show...they never were a family.Family members call each other by shortened names or nicknames.

Splinter even referred to the turtles as HIS FRIENDS...not his sons. That was just wrong.



I call em Mike,Raph,Leo and Donnie. Ya know it's like they're part of my family in a way. I dunno...im wierd.

Really? While I can't quote anything, I thought I could remember Splint referring to them as his sons on more than one occasion...but it could just be th emovie clouding my judgment..havent seen those eps in a while...

[Weapon X]

..havent seen those eps in a while...
Exactley it's been too long to make jugements on anything really.

[XERO]

They were always family.

Do you consider some of your friends family? :)

[Weapon X]

Do you consider some of your friends family? :)
Not really.

[Jester]

I've heard "My friends" and students but never sons in the OT

[Jo Dawn]

Yep. Splinter reffered to them as his friends, as introduces them that way also. That always bugged me, too... ;) :P

[XERO]

He said 'sons' in the first season, I'm sure of it.

And X, you ruined my post. :P

[Jester]

I'm pretty sure he never did, Benny....as much as I hate to contradict the 5th turtle.

[Weapon X]

He also called them "My four young wards".

[Jester]

Batman conotations....:P EWWWWWW!

[XERO]

No, he did.

Trust me. ;)

[Buslady]

Really? While I can't quote anything, I thought I could remember Splint referring to them as his sons on more than one occasion...but it could just be th emovie clouding my judgment..havent seen those eps in a while...

It's one one of the OT DVDs, my kiddo was watchng it and i remember hearing it..im like that's WRONG!!!!!!!! I dunno...the old show didn't have hte family feel of the new show.

[XERO]

Mark my words, everybody.

Splinter did call them 'sons' in the old toon.

[Jester]

*shrugs* I'm prettys sure he doesn't Ben. It's soemthing you'd remember...

[XERO]

Watch Enter the Shredder.

You'll see. ;)

[Ryona]

I agree with Ben. I do remember him calling them "sons" a few times as well as "friends".

Kinda odd to call them one and the other if you ask me... :ohwell:

[Jester]

Ok....
Head upwards, my sons, I'll try to find a way around all this.

[XERO]

I told ya. :D

[Weapon X]

It's obviouse he had to say it atleast once.

[Jester]

I told ya. :D
You are right. Why'd I ever doubt you...

[XERO]

Coming from a guy who recites episodes, it was a matter of time. :D

[Jester]

As soon as I read "Enter the Shredder" that line ran through my head....but that's once....Like Don-o....

[XERO]

But he still said it. His lips moved to form the word, and it's wasn't a coloring mistake. :P

[Jester]

I know....:P
But it's the exception, not the rule....man this would ba an awesome study...take Seasons 1 and 2 of TMNT OT and NT and compair the use of Aprivaited names and "My sons"

[Weapon X]

I had to do this.

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[Jester]

I had to do this.

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/3430/benincar5kn.jpg
My god....he was there....:P

[Weapon X]

My god....he was there....:P
I can't believe I over looked it every time too.

[XERO]

What a day... :lol:

[Weapon X]

What a day... :lol:
This one or that one? :lol:

[XERO]

Both, X. Both. :D

[Buslady]

ok it's all you guy's fault..I'm dying of laughter with this Sloganizer thing...I've seen some preverted slogans with mine...oh god :lol: :lol:

[Jester]

DO Raphael!

[XERO]

Yep. Extra dry? :P :lol:




Anyway, back on topic...:D

[Weapon X]

Anyway, back on topic...:D
What were we talking about?....really.

[Jester]

The name abriviations. So you think it's akll terms of indearment BL....Like me calling you BL...:P

[Sage Ninja]

That's one thing I didn't care for the old show...they never were a family.Family members call each other by shortened names or nicknames.

Splinter even referred to the turtles as HIS FRIENDS...not his sons. That was just wrong.



I call em Mike,Raph,Leo and Donnie. Ya know it's like they're part of my family in a way. I dunno...im wierd.

You know when I was watching the classic series of the TMNT when I was younger I always got the empresion that they where a family and not just a bunch of friends hanging around and living together.

Where the new TMNT and the classic one differ is that the classic one they all act like the are a suragate family or adopitive family. So the TMNT where family but not a blood realated family. In the new toon the TMNT act like they are a bilogical family, like they are all blood relations with one another.

And yes In the classic series I do specifically remeber hearing Splinter call the TMNT as his "sons", and he has on occassion said that they are brothers as well. Its not to often but he has said it on more than one occasion before. Splinter from the old series behaved like an adoptive father to the TMNT rather than a bilogical father like he does in the curent series. Which is actually more acurate in some respects because I dubt that they are all from the same litter of eggs. But doesn't matter because they all grew up together and thus they where brothers. **shruggs**

And actually I rather like it when the the TMNT call each other by their full names. Mostly because the TMNT have distingushed and unique names that is rather rare, and it is kind of a shame that they chop it up and make it so ordinary.

I feel the same way about my little sisters name, she has a very pretty name in my personal opinion and some people chop it up and shorten it, and I feel it takes away what is special about her name. But hey thats just me. And I guess you are right though about the TMNT useing their full names as being rather formal, but to be honest I never thought of it as that way, I wicked loved the TMNT's names and saying them when I was younger (though I used to have a hard time saying Leonardo's name sometimes).

In the new toon I have to say I don't really mind any more that they abriveate their names with one another. Because that seves as a an indication to how the turtles are feeling at any given time. For instance I notice the turtles only call each other by their full names when they are really pissed of at each other, or if one of them is in danger they call out their full names, or if they are feeling very serious at a particualr moment.

If what I said makes any sence.

[XERO]

(though I used to have a hard time saying Leonardo's name sometimes).

And Michelangelo's name was much easier...? :P

[Sage Ninja]

back off, I had a stuttering problem when I was little and "L's" where particualrly hard for me to say :x

[XERO]

Well, I didn't know that.

Sorry, Sage. I didn't mean any disrespect. Please forgive me. :)

[Buslady]

The name abriviations. So you think it's akll terms of indearment BL....Like me calling you BL...:P



yeah

um

ok

*waits for another perverted slogan...*

[Sage Ninja]

Well, I didn't know that.

Sorry, Sage. I didn't mean any disrespect. Please forgive me. :)

I was being sarcastic but okay, how could I be offended by the pure white 5th turtle :)

[Sewer Bull]

I prefer when they address each other with their full names - they're much more melodic than the abbreviated versions. Especially "Michaelangelo" is good one in this case.

[Ryona]

I too like the full names better. The TMNT have beautiful names. When they're shortened, they sound... mediocre.


I would give my son (if I had one) any one of the TMNT names. Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, Michelangelo... They all sound beautiful.



Hey, Buslady... Didn't you say that you would have liked your son's name to be Raphael, but your husband wasn't interested in the name?

[Benito]

OK, I was sitting around watching my OT TMNT DVDs and I noticed something. The guys never used the whole Leo, Don, Raph, Mikey name abriviations. In the 1st 2 seasons, I didn't notice any times those names were used. They are used in the movies, and the new toon, and posibily the Archie comics. But what is regarded by most as the most silly and kid oriented version of the green team, they call eachother by their full names....comments?
Raph sometimes RaphE which I find annoying

[Sewer Bull]

Another difference between old and new toon concerning names - Splinter.

In old toon, he was nicknamed like that by turtles "for obvious reasons" - because he splintered wooden planks with his teeth and palms. In new toon, it's shown that one of the boys calls him like that. The question is - was it his name under Master Yoshi or just a name adopted for turtles, chosen accidentally (because one of them said that).

About calling TMNT "sons" - have Splinter done such a thing in Mirage comics?

[Weapon X]

About calling TMNT "sons" - have Splinter done such a thing in Mirage comics?
That ones easy, yes.

[NeoBix]

ya he called them sons, pupils, students, ninja kids, samurai boys, etc etc etc.. he's called them lots of things

[Buslady]

I too like the full names better. The TMNT have beautiful names. When they're shortened, they sound... mediocre.


I would give my son (if I had one) any one of the TMNT names. Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, Michelangelo... They all sound beautiful.



Hey, Buslady... Didn't you say that you would have liked your son's name to be Raphael, but your husband wasn't interested in the name?

Nah, Chris was named after Christopher Lloyd. If I were to pick one of their names, It would be Mike. I don't think Eric would dig it if it were full on Michelangelo though! But I can live with Michael.

[NeoBix]

if I had a pet turtle I'd name him Benvenuto and put a white bandana on him lol :P ;)

[XERO]

Then, you'd better take good care of him! :P